Originally posted by disturbence
.... lets see what happens when the EU shows its imperialistic ambissions,
- Well that one's easy.
What 'imperialistic ambitions?
The EU doesn't have any 'imperialistic ambitions'.
I do wish people would make their minds up.
On the one hand the EU is a timid regional 'power' and on the other we're meant to be aggressively 'imperialistic'!
How about we are a European voluntary cooperative who aren't into 'forcing' anyone to do anything? Hmmm?
The Ukraine has not joined the EU and is not a part of the EU.
Ultimately their fate is their own, not ours.
NATO's ambitions are, however a very different matter.
There is a school of thought here in Europe which sees the USA attempting to deal Russia a large scale 'geo-political defeat' on Russia by prising
the Ukraine away from Russia and into NATO or NATO's 'orbit'.
The USA would like to turn the Black sea into an American sea, it would be very useful to US control over oil pipelines etc etc.
Russia won't stand idly by and watch that happen though.....any more than the USA would see the Gulf of Mexico 'threatened' in a reverse but
(Jayzuss just think of the damage, fuss and tragedy over tiny Cuba!
and how far the US will go on the count of lingering cold-war fears of a russia slowly coming out of the economical chaos after the fall of the
- What on earth has any of this got to do with the USA and the (long dead) 'cold war'?
Putin is 'dub-ya's' good friend, I wouldn't expect any great shakes from this vis the USA and Russia, but who knows with the neocon lunatics in
charge and just given the boost of another 4yrs.
My bet is the Ukrainians will sort this out themselves. Hopefully with as little mess as possible.
But I really don't see Russia interested in getting mixed up in attempting to forceably subjugate the Ukraine again.
Once bitten and all that.
The USA's meddling is another matter.
[edit on 28-11-2004 by sminkeypinkey]