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Topic started on 24-11-2004 @ 01:12 PM by Wask
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globalresearch.ca...
Territorial control over Canada is part of Washington's geopolitical and military agenda as formulated in April 2002 by Defense Secretary Donald
Rumsfeld. "Binational integration" of military command structures is also contemplated alongside a major revamping in the areas of immigration, law
enforcement and intelligence.
At this critical juncture in our history and in anticipation of the visit of George W. Bush to Canada on November 30th, an understanding of these
issues is central to the articulation of a coherent anti-war and civil rights movement.
The purpose of this detailed report is to encourage discussion and debate in Canada and Quebec, as well as in the US. Kindly circulate this article
widely. The Summary can be forwarded by email with a hyperlink to the complete text.
I'm all for cooperation between both the US and Canada to defend North Americas borders, for example the missle defence shield. However if any
American soliders enter Canada I think **** will hit the fan with alot of Canadain citizens.
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:16 PM by Englishman_in_Spain
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Quebec's got the bomb, I know because I saw Bill Clinton being told by a Secret Service chap in The Simpsons.
I hope someone has told Dubya.
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:18 PM by rowsdower
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i dont think so, no offense to canadians but the only things in canada are beavers and bad drivers.
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:21 PM by Seekerof
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One important question/observation before I counter this over-hyping globalresearch.ca article:
Why has the Canadian Armed forces been continually downsizing and would this be reason for such an agreement to the NORTHCOM mandate?
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:22 PM by Amelia
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Originally posted by Englishman_in_Spain
Quebec's got the bomb,
What do you mean...I'm french and I don't really understand the thread! Are we in danger in Quebec! We are so peaceful people, we don't want
anything to do with war....
Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:27 PM by rowsdower
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when us americans (God bless the USA) want something like natural resources (like fresh water) we would invade the poorest less changleing country we
can find (like anartica, which isnt a country). if we wanted lumber we would invade Finland, which is the poorest least changling country with lumber.
if we wanted oil we would invade the poorest arab country, like iraq (oh wait we already did  ) so you canadians have nothing to worry about (unless
we run out of weak countries to invade)
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:32 PM by soficrow
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Why has the Canadian Armed forces been continually downsizing and would this be reason for such an agreement to the NORTHCOM mandate?
seekerof
Canada did not agree to NORTHCOM - from the article:
The creation of NORTHCOM announced in April 2002, constitutes a blatant violation of both Canadian and Mexican territorial sovereignty. Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announced unilaterally that US Northern Command would have jurisdiction over the entire North American region. Canada and
Mexico were presented with a fait accompli.
...Canada has oil, lumber, vast untapped natural resources and the world's largest supply of fresh water... (Thnx Sardion2000)
Also see:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:39 PM by colsislander
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Lets not forget,we in Canada have a lot of empty land a small population around 35 million I think .We also have a lot of fresh water
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:41 PM by edsinger
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Canada is already the 52nd state behind Puerto Rico  
Seriously, there would be no need. The connections behind the scenes are VERY close. Canada and the US are extremely close allies, maybe not all the
time in public, but behind closed doors....
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:41 PM by billybob
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canadians might seem weak to you, but you don't understand the power of education. perhaps canada will annex america and teach you a thing or two.
when canadians don't have borders, only the USA will have canadians
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:44 PM by Amelia
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Originally posted by colsislander
Lets not forget,we in Canada have a lot of empty land a small population around 35 million I think .We also have a lot of fresh water
I don't want to get invade by the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanna stay in my province where people are peaceful, have great values...What will happen to us! We have nothing to fight them! No, they WON'T do
that to us  Don't put this in my mind guys!
Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:53 PM by rowsdower
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"We are also short on qualified pilots as well, seems no one wants to risk their but in a 20 yr old fighter or a 40 year old chopper anymore"
us americans fly in 45 YEAR OLD BOMBERS (the B52s) made in 1962 and you canadians are crying over your F-18s. we have to go to 50 year old military
junkyards to get spare parts for the B-52.  and we are not crying over them. in fact we dont plan on retireing them until 2044. by then each
aircratf will be 82 years old and 65 years over its original planned lifespan.
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 01:59 PM by Jimi Hendrix
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Manifest destiny. Sorry Canada, all your land and resources are belong to us.
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 02:00 PM by BlackJackal
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Originally posted by soficrow
Canada did not agree to NORTHCOM - from the article:
Yes they did........
No one suggests that Canada will acquire go/no go authority over NMD if NORAD runs the show. But Canada will have the right to consultation, the right
to participation, the right to a place at the table when decisions are made. As the United States is all but certain to proceed, Canada must choose
between high morality and great practicality, and in such circumstances, when morality will only anger the Bush Administration and hurt Canadian
interests, there is no choice: the time for maximum benefit may already have slipped by but, nonetheless, the earlier Canada agrees to support the NMD
decision, the
better.
Similar to the NMD/NORAD conundrum is the question of the Northern Command, the new United States military super-command, announced April 17, 2002.
NORTHCOM is to be activated on October 1, 2002, and to be led by the US Air Force four-star general who commands NORAD. NORTHCOM will also be housed
alongside NORAD at Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado. Such an organization, largely for purposes of coordination among the fractious American services, had
long been suggested in the United States, such proposals pre-dating the World Trade Center attack.
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 02:24 PM by soficrow
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Originally posted by BlackJackal
Originally posted by soficrow
Canada did not agree to NORTHCOM - from the article:
Yes they did........
Blackjackal - I saw nothing in your quote saying Canada agreed. ...???
...Still, I have no doubt that the same handlers control Bush AND Canada's Prime Minister, Martin, behind the scenes. But private commitments aside -
it doesn't look like any formal agreement has been signed. Just that the US did it "unilaterally" and presented Canada and Mexico with a 'fait
accompli.'
...NORTHCOM and the super-sizing of NAFTA look to me like part of the same Continental Corporate Merger - just a way to hand the reins over to
multinational corporations and protect their profits.
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 02:28 PM by Wask
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Originally posted by Amelia
I don't want to get invade by the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
We will not be invaded by the US ever. No matter what people like rowsdower say the two countries are friends and share many mutual interests.
No matter what fools say arguing on the internet we are close and I really hope we grow our relationship when it comes to defending North America. Its
a good thing people who make stupid comments on the internet don't decided how our countries view or work together. We have inteligent people for
that.
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 02:34 PM by ShadowXIX
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We are comming for the Canadian Beer
But in real life this is as close as we are going to get to fighting Canada
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reply posted on 24-11-2004 @ 02:42 PM by intrepid
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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
We are comming for the Canadian Beer
But in real life this is as close as we are going to get to fighting Canada
What about this?
I'm not a big fan of Lemeiux but I'm outta here and it's the first one I could find.
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