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SyrioForel
reply to post by taoistguy
Let's answer this question with a quote from the amazing movie 'Mr. Nobody'; before the Big Bang, there was no 'before', because time is a result from the expansion of the universe.
IroncladFT
F4guy
The good thing about science is that its truth is independent of your beliefs. The cosmic background microwave radiation exists whether you "believe in it" or not.
Independent of beliefs? Cmon man, anyone with common sense who listens to THEORIES brought forth by scientists KNOWS there is a lot of personal beliefs in those theories. Especially on topics humans CANNOT and WILL NEVER know or understand. Science says the earth was created 20 billion years ago (even though the age has changed like 10 times over the past 100 years). 20 billion years ago. Now let that sink in and tell me this is 100% scientific fact and does not include PERSONAL BELIEFS!
I love science, but what has occurred is we as a culture allow "EDUCATED" folks to dictate OUR truth. Whether it's right or wrong we don't know for sure because we trust others who SAY they know for us and we just swallow it as fact.
So again, the pure definition of science CANNOT be used to explain the BBT. I am still waiting for ANY scientist on the planet to answer me these questions.
1. Where did all of the "stuff" (dirt, matter, debris, elements, etc...) come from that was compressed and building energy, then conveniently just exploded creating everything? In that theory, the "stuff" was already CREATED but something happened to it to condense it and cause it to "pop". So did the big bang come first, or was the stuff to create the POSSIBLE event here first? That's not science, its a personal GUESS/THEORY.
2. Where did the laws come from that govern our universe (gravity, centrifugal force, inertia, etc...)? But more importantly, why is it they are NOT changing if the BBT is correct? Wouldn't the laws evolve with an ever changing universe that was made by chance through a huge explosion? I would think they couldn't remain constant.
3. The sun is 98% hydrogen and helium, yet if the BBT were true, how is it every other planet has only 1% or less of these two elements? And the earth just happens to be made up of just the right amounts to sustain life. Coincidence?
Again, I LOVE science, but when you try to sell me a personal guess as science and expect me to just jump on board, it's not going to happen. Science needs to learn to just say, WE HAVE NO IDEA! Nothing wrong with being honest.
IroncladFT
F4guy
The good thing about science is that its truth is independent of your beliefs. The cosmic background microwave radiation exists whether you "believe in it" or not.
Independent of beliefs? Cmon man, anyone with common sense who listens to THEORIES brought forth by scientists KNOWS there is a lot of personal beliefs in those theories. Especially on topics humans CANNOT and WILL NEVER know or understand. Science says the earth was created 20 billion years ago (even though the age has changed like 10 times over the past 100 years). 20 billion years ago. Now let that sink in and tell me this is 100% scientific fact and does not include PERSONAL BELIEFS!
When used in non-scientific context, the word “theory” implies that something is unproven or speculative. As used in science, however, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
I love science, but what has occurred is we as a culture allow "EDUCATED" folks to dictate OUR truth. Whether it's right or wrong we don't know for sure because we trust others who SAY they know for us and we just swallow it as fact.
So again, the pure definition of science CANNOT be used to explain the BBT. I am still waiting for ANY scientist on the planet to answer me these questions.
1. Where did all of the "stuff" (dirt, matter, debris, elements, etc...) come from that was compressed and building energy, then conveniently just exploded creating everything? In that theory, the "stuff" was already CREATED but something happened to it to condense it and cause it to "pop". So did the big bang come first, or was the stuff to create the POSSIBLE event here first? That's not science, its a personal GUESS/THEORY.
Although the big bang theory is famous, it's also widely misunderstood. A common misperception about the theory is that it describes the origin of the universe. That's not quite right. The big bang is an attempt to explain how the universe developed from a very tiny, dense state into what it is today. It doesn't attempt to explain what initiated the creation of the universe, or what came before the big bang or even what lies outside the universe.
Another misconception is that the big bang was a kind of explosion. That's not accurate either. The big bang describes the expansion of the universe. While some versions of the theory refer to an incredibly rapid expansion (possibly faster than the speed of light), it's still not an explosion in the classic sense.
2. Where did the laws come from that govern our universe (gravity, centrifugal force, inertia, etc...)? But more importantly, why is it they are NOT changing if the BBT is correct? Wouldn't the laws evolve with an ever changing universe that was made by chance through a huge explosion? I would think they couldn't remain constant.
3. The sun is 98% hydrogen and helium, yet if the BBT were true, how is it every other planet has only 1% or less of these two elements? And the earth just happens to be made up of just the right amounts to sustain life. Coincidence?
Again, I LOVE science, but when you try to sell me a personal guess as science and expect me to just jump on board, it's not going to happen. Science needs to learn to just say, WE HAVE NO IDEA! Nothing wrong with being honest.
buster2010
Until we build a time machine that will enable us to see what really happened people will always be arguing about it. I think the big collision theory is more believable than the big bang theory. For people that hasn't heard of the big collision theory it's when two dimensions collide.
pikestaff
If all the galaxies are expanding away from the central big bang, why do we see galaxies colliding? we are told that Andromeda is bearing down on us, from two and a half million light years away, yet the universe is expanding, expanding inwards?!