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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 09:34 PM

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr
Here i found this interesting talks about How Putin is hiring people to change the narrative on Ukraine. They go onto western blogs and media sites to disrupt conversations and try to change the narrative so its favorable to Russia,
im guessing this is going to be common in the 21st century trolls trying to change the narrative.

Russia’s campaign to shape international opinion around its invasion of Ukraine has extended to recruiting and training a new cadre of online trolls that have been deployed to spread the Kremlin’s message on the comments section of top American websites.
Plans attached to emails leaked by a mysterious Russian hacker collective show IT managers reporting on a new ideological front against the West in the comments sections of Fox News, Huffington Post, The Blaze, Politico, and WorldNetDaily.
The bizarre hive of social media activity appears to be part of a two-pronged Kremlin campaign to claim control over the internet, launching a million-dollar army of trolls to mold American public opinion as it cracks down on internet freedom at home.
“Foreign media are currently actively forming a negative image of the Russian Federation in the eyes of the global community,” one of the project’s team members, Svetlana Boiko, wrote in a strategy document. “Additionally, the discussions formed by comments to those articles are also negative in tone.
“Like any brand formed by popular opinion, Russia has its supporters (‘brand advocates’) and its opponents. The main problem is that in the foreign internet community, the ratio of supporters and opponents of Russia is about 20/80 respectively.”
The documents show instructions provided to the commenters that detail the workload expected of them. On an average working day, the Russians are to post on news articles 50 times. Each blogger is to maintain six Facebook accounts publishing at least three posts a day and discussing the news in groups at least twice a day. By the end of the first month, they are expected to have won 500 subscribers and get at least five posts on each item a day. On Twitter, the bloggers are expected to manage 10 accounts with up to 2,000 followers and tweet 50 times a day.

the troll has spoken about trolling, lol.
Man post some updates on events in Ukraine stop trolling. This thread is about updates in Ukraine.

Well it is about ukraine read the article also explains why we see so much misinformation when it comes to Ukraine. By the way insulting people is a T&C violation might want to read the rules before you attack people you could get banned.

I think you are the one who should read. Once again this thread is about updates on events in Ukraine.
There are other threads on Ukraine as well. You might post about trolling there or even open a new thread.
Misinformation? Yesterday you tried to convince us that 'people from wood' used RPG's to attack the building in Lugansk.

Ambush on column of BTRs yesterday, taken from inside of BTR.

Im sorry didnt know we had to get your approval on whats news on Ukraine and whats not. See this isnt Russia and we dont have to worry about censorship. Just because you didnt like the article doesnt mean others wont find it interesting how Russia is hiring people for an internet propaganda war.

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 09:35 PM

Ukraine's acting foreign minister, Andriy Deshchytsya, said Russia was now using every means at its disposal to _javascript:underline()unsettle the new Kiev leaders and regain control over its historic domain.
"Five days since elections, there has been no official recognition yet. Obviously, the Russian Federation doesn't have legal grounds to question the election's legitimacy," Deshchytsya wrote in an opinion piece published in Saturday's edition of the English-language Kyiv Post.
"The massive... information campaign Kremlin has launched these days, with an avalanche of doubletalk and fake news, signals one thing, this is Russia's last chance to try shifting the balance of international public opinion," he wrote.
Russia on Friday accused Ukraine of breaching the 1949 Geneva Conventions protecting civilians in wartime by killing and wounding peaceful citizens during its seven-week "anti-terrorist operation".
But Washington praised Ukraine for showing utmost "restraint" and accused the pro-Russian militias of "murder, kidnapping, and looting".

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posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 09:35 PM
Looks like Slavyansk resistance forces have been under a lot of pressure since yesterday.

Field report from the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Igor Ivanovich Strelkov:

“The situation on the front’s northern sector is grave.

The enemy has captured the town of Krasny Liman, after a short battle in which they had overwhelming superiority in every way. The local militia took heavy losses. Now the Ukrainian National Guard is there, mocking the local populace. The fall of Krasny Liman is a heavy blow to Slavyansk as well.

We were unable to aid the tiny garrison, as we were being stormed at the same time.

Starting at 5 a.m., the enemy heavily bombarded the town of Semyenovka using many different types of land-based weaponry, strike-fighters and attack helicopters. The bombardment is still ongoing and has resulted in casualties, so far 7 dead and 10 wounded.

After that, the enemy attacked Semyenovka with tanks, APCs and infantry from the National Guard, approaching from the direction of Seleznyevka. After a long and difficult battle the enemy was forced to retreat, having lost 2 APCs and an armoured Hummer, as well as one T-64 tank. Unfortunately, the hardware was not on our territory and has already been evacuated by the enemy. An enemy Mi-24 was damaged by smalls arms fire and forced to land. Unfortunately, it will quickly be repaired, therefore it cannot be count as lost but merely temporarily taken out of action. Numbers of casualties among enemy infantry are unknown.

In light of the gargantuan advantage the enemy has in terms of the weaponry available, I see our victory in this battle as a genuine feat of arms by our militia. It’s very regrettable that they must accomplish such feats using anti-tank rifles aged from WWII and having to make every single bullet count due to the lack of ammunition. If the situation continues as it is now, we will soon run out of ammunition, and that will be our end.

But we will still defend Slavyansk to the end! No one and nothing can help us now. Our reconnaissance subdivision in the area of Krasny Liman also took heavy losses due to air strikes, however they still managed to destroy two cars and one ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun belonging to the enemy, by ambushing them.

The Krasny Liman company also reported taking down one Sukhoi fighter.

I can neither confirm nor deny at the moment, but according to certain information the Kramatorsk company destroyed one BTR-80. On the Western outskirts of Slavyansk our special forces destroyed 1 enemy IFV.

In any case, the enemy is constantly using strike-fighters against us, 2-3 at a time. They work in shifts and use several airbases. In addition to this, there are always 6-7 attack helicopters in the sky. Columns of enemy artillery, infantry, and armour continue to crawl towards Slavyansk literally from every direction. The times when they outnumbered us 10 to 1 are now “the good old days”. A division of BM-27 Uragan (“Hurricane”) multiple rocket launcher systems is moving towards us, whereas Semyenovka was already shelled today by BM-21 Grad (“Hail”) multiple rocket launcher systems. The amount of self-propelled and regular artillery pieces (calibres 122mm above) has for a long time already numbered over 50, and as for mortars, I’m not even going to attempt to count them. The enemy’s aim is to close the ring around Slavyansk tightly and once and for all.

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 09:42 PM

Obama to meet with Poroshenko in Warsaw on Wednesday

World June 04, 5:11 UTC+4
WARSAW, June 04. /ITAR-TASS/. US President Barack Obama is due to meet with Ukraine's President-elect Pyotr Poroshenko here on Wednesday. Nothing has been reported about venue or time of talks. According to existing information, the meeting will be held on Wednesday morning.
Obama, who arrived here on Tuesday for a visit, in his remarks repeatedly spoke about Ukraine. He said the USA intended to support it, economically as well. Besides, the American leader went on record in favor of stabilization of the situation in Ukraine's east. There must be a mechanism to restore order in that country's eastern regions, he said. Obama's opinion is that Russia must use its influence to bring about stabilization of the situation in Ukraine.
The US president said that at the forthcoming meeting with Poroshenko in Warsaw he would like to speak with him about Ukraine's needs and hear from him what, in his view, would be most effective.
Poroshenko arrived in Warsaw on Tuesday at the invitation of his Polish counterpart Bronislaw Komorowski. On the same day, he attended a ceremonial dinner with the participation of the Heads of State and Government on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the first partially free elections to the Polish parliament.
A source at Ukraine's Embassy to Poland told Itar-Tass that Poroshenko's program also provides for talks with Komorowski, the presidents of France, Finland, and Austria, Francois Hollande, Sauli Niinisto, and Heinz Fischer, as well as US Secretary of State John Kerry.

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 09:47 PM
latest update from OSCE on events in Ukraine

In Luhansk the situation remained volatile. On 2 June, shortly after 15:00 hrs, rockets hit the occupied regional administration building. Based on the SMM’s limited observation these strikes were the result of non-guided rockets shot from an aircraft. The number of casualties is unknown.

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 09:51 PM
I thought people might find this interesting as well its all about the people leading the sepratists it leads to some interesting conclusions.

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 09:58 PM
Lloyds pulls out of £1bn finance deal to help BP buy Russian oil.

Lloyds, the bank part-owned by the Government, has withdrawn from a trade finance deal worth between £895m and £1.2bn involving the Russian oil company Rosneft, in a development that highlights the growing unease among Western banks in funding Russian deals.

“Lloyds's decision to leave the deal is because it does not want to embarrass the Government, considering the current political situation with Russia,” said one of the bankers. “I think it was scared of going upstairs to ask permission.” BP, Rosneft and Lloyds all declined to comment.

It is not yet clear if another bank will replace Lloyds as an MLA. The loan is supported by several lenders including Japanese, European and Chinese banks.

Rosneft and BP, via a specially created company, are trying to complete the financing, which is backed by Rosneft's future oil production.

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 09:59 PM
oh the irony

KIEV, June 3 (RIA Novosti) — Ukraine's Acting Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk urged the European Union on Tuesday to block Russian South Stream gas pipeline, currently under construction and expected to transfer Russian oil and gas to central and southern Europe via Black Sea bypassing Ukraine.
"We call on the European Union to block the South Stream. Ukraine is a reliable transit country, we have fulfilled and will continue to fulfil our obligations," Yatsenyuk told the parliament.

and than this

KIEV, June 3 (RIA Novosti) - Ukraine expects to sign with the Russian side an additional agreement to the gas contract drafted by Naftogaz, acting Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Tuesday.
“We believe that the results of this path [of negotiations between Gazprom and Naftogaz] must lead to the signing of an additional agreement, the draft of which Naftogaz had handed over to Gazprom Sunday evening,” Yatsenyuk said.

'Hey do not let Russia build South Stream'.
'Please Russia be nice to us and lets sign additional agreement to the gas contract for our benefit'.

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 10:15 PM
Meantime in democratic Ukrainian Parliament in Kiev.

Irina Careful: Today Verkhovna Rada finally lost its status as the legislature in a democratic state

06/03/14 - 22:55

Today the Verkhovna Rada finally lost its status as the legislature in a democratic state, in fact taking over the powers of the independent judicial branch of power. Oleg Tsarev deprivation of immunity, especially (Warning) permission to arrest - an unprecedented violation of every conceivable laws. This was stated by MP, a member of the Party of Regions faction Irina Careful.

The politician noted that such actions - this is the final output state institute of the legal field. "Now, no current Code of Criminal Procedure, nor the courts, whose jurisdiction to decide on the arrest, are not important. Important for a majority of deputies. This is the main authority in the country de facto! They decide whom to punish, whom to pardon "- said Irina Careful.

"As a lawyer, I remind you that the voters were not given the right to decide the destinies Verkhovna Rada of individuals! And if the decision of the parliament closes his eyes, the Constitutional Court, the newly elected president and the public, we can say with confidence that we are moving into a phase of terror. After surviving in the 21st century "storming of the Bastille" and "march on Versailles", we plunge into the darkness, where you can launch a missile at the middle of the city in broad daylight, without warning the civilian population, where it is possible to judge a person for dissent, where you can kill people because so a small group of self-appointed rulers decided. I will do my best to bring the country back into the legal field. But every day less hope, "- said the MP.

Press office of the deputy of Ukraine Irina Berezhnaya

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 10:30 PM
North Luhansk Oblast cleared of terrorists, Turchynov reports

On Tuesday, June 3, during the course of the antiterrorist operation (ATO), the northern part of Luhansk Oblast was completely cleared of terrorists, reports a statement on the official website of the Acting President and Chairman of Verkhovna Rada Oleksandr Turchynov.

“The bases and military camps of the militants in this region were destroyed, their main fortified area in the village of Semenivka was seized, and control over the city of Chervonyy Lyman was established. In addition, the military has begun blocking the borders north and south of the Luhansk Oblast,” the statement says.

This information had been reported to Turchynov by the leadership of the Antiterrorist Operation (ATO), the statement says.

According to Turchynov, units with the largest numbers of fighters were destroyed, which means that “in the near future there will be the possibility of freeing the central Donbas area from terrorists.”

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 10:30 PM
a reply to: cosmonova

According to th evideo do you see any MIssiles coming into the frame heading into that wooded area? Slow it down and review it frame by frame. this is a simple misdirection job. MIssiles and or rockets leave way more damage that was shone.

posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 10:37 PM

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: cosmonova

According to th evideo do you see any MIssiles coming into the frame heading into that wooded area? Slow it down and review it frame by frame. this is a simple misdirection job. MIssiles and or rockets leave way more damage that was shone.

Im still up in the air on it im doubting it was a plane my biggest problem is the angle was so low that one of the rockets actually exited back out the ground like a skipping rock on a pond. And as we all know to skip a rock you cant have a large angle when it hits. And as you mentioned this looks more like a grenade than a rocket blast even the cars just feet away are still there.
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posted on Jun, 3 2014 @ 10:50 PM
Here is a short clip just released by vice it shows a very close call for the cameraman. It will be added to a report they just released this because it shows an attack by separatists.

posted on Jun, 4 2014 @ 12:55 AM
Well i guess its official now the G8 is now the G7 .

G-7 powers meet without Russia in summit snub over Ukraine

The world's leading industrialized nations meet without Russia for the first time in 17 years on Wednesday, leaving President Vladimir Putin out of the talks in retaliation for his seizure of Crimea and Russia's part in destabilizing eastern Ukraine.

The two-day Group of Seven (G-7) summit, taking place in Brussels rather than the previously planned Russian Black Sea resort of Sochi, will cover foreign policy, economics, trade and energy security.

posted on Jun, 4 2014 @ 02:32 PM
Heres an awards ceremony in poland and two things surprised me about the video. First Lech Wałęsa gets on to Russia about reviving the past (in other words the Soviet Union).Also shows how much the Polish hate the Russians meaning Ukraine can find a great ally right there. And Poroshenko said Crimea Will Be Free Soon. Meaning i dont think he plans to let Russia keep it but im a little unclear on what his plans are. Though there is one possibility i can think of. Start a revolution among the tatars with backing from Ukrainians still living there. Than you make sure Russia has a hard time supplying Crimea. The other alternative send troops? Dont see he has a lot of options which is why im surprised hes even still thinking of Crimea.
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posted on Jun, 4 2014 @ 02:50 PM
Thought id look into Crimea since its been quite and apparently things arent going well under Russian rule.

The tourism industry has fallen off a cliff, the banking system is in turmoil, and prices are rising as Russia curbs shipments from Ukraine. Even McDonald’s (MCD) has fled, closing its three restaurants on the peninsula. Russia has promised aid—including plans for a Las Vegas-style gambling zone in Crimea—but that won’t come quickly enough to avoid what Crimean Prime Minister Sergey Aksyonov has described as “temporary economic difficulties.”

This is a funny statement he said Crimeans wont notice paying more for things because get this they raised there allowance by 50 percent.

Food prices are rising as new border controls are restricting food shipments to the peninsula, according to the International Center for Policy Studies, a Kiev-based think tank. Russian customs agents, citing health regulations and other restrictions, are refusing to accept some shipments from Ukraine, which until recently accounted for 80 percent of the food on Crimean store shelves, says Iaroslav Kovalchuk, an analyst at the center. “We estimate that prices may rise by 25 or even 50 percent over the next few months,” Kovalchuk says. While Russia has increased monthly stipends to Crimean pensioners by 50 percent and is raising the salaries of public servants, “they will not feel it if prices rise.”

The shutdown of Ukrainian-regulated banks in Crimea, and the switch on June 1 from the Ukrainian hryvnia currency to the Russian ruble, have added to the difficulties. Almost every bank on the peninsula has closed, leaving clients to apply to Russia’s deposit-insurance agency to get their savings back. (Russia has guaranteed coverage for accounts of as much as $20,000.) Most business transactions in Crimea are now cash-only, because credit and debit cards no longer work.

Crimea was poor to begin with. Its per capita gross domestic product is about $2,500, roughly one-fourth the figure in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev. Russia has promised to pump as much as $48 billion into Crimea over the next decade, including for new roads, airport improvements, and construction of a 5-kilometer bridge to connect the peninsula to the Russian mainland. Still, there’s no guarantee Russia can deliver on that promise, as its own economy is sliding toward recession.

posted on Jun, 4 2014 @ 02:56 PM
a reply to: dragonridr

Polish sentiments regarding Russians aren't surprising, in recent history (ie. last century) one has to look at a few incidents to see the origins of those sentiments Katyn, the Cursed soldiers and the Augustow roundup, to name some events.

About Poroshenko's statement on Crimea, very curious to see how it will happen. Guess we'll just have to wait until after the inauguration.
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posted on Jun, 4 2014 @ 10:19 PM
quite interesting, Israeli ex servicemen joining resistance forces

Battalion "Alia", formed in 2002, moved to Israel from professional soldiers of the Soviet Army and the armies of the CIS countries, dealing with the protection of the Israeli settlements in the disputed territories. Battalion "Alia" in Slavic sent twenty fighters highly experienced servicemen in the Soviet and Israeli armies. Also during the two weeks there is a possibility to increase the number to two hundred men. This information was confirmed by the national governor of Donetsk on his Facebook page. Previously, the intention to send to Ukraine announced the formation of the volunteer members of Roman Ratner, who once headed the battalion.

posted on Jun, 4 2014 @ 10:23 PM
well this is a quite surprise, I hope she will not lose her job.

posted on Jun, 4 2014 @ 10:47 PM
protest in Cyprus against Junta's military operations against people of Novorossyia

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