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Dualism (from the Latin word duo meaning "two")[1] denotes a state of two parts. The term 'dualism' was originally coined to denote co-eternal binary opposition, a meaning that is preserved in metaphysical and philosophical duality discourse but has been diluted in other usages to indicate a system which contains two essential parts.
Bluesma
Thus, as the one realizes the reality of non-duality,
There is freedom to enjoy and have fun with
the illusion of duality....
Let's discuss and debate!
Visitor2012
Name one single thing in the known Universe that is non-dual.
ExquisitExamplE
Visitor2012
Name one single thing in the known Universe that is non-dual.
The idea here is that the entirety of the universe is one single thing.
Does the Universe have an edge, beyond which there is nothing?
Galaxies extend as far as we can detect... with no sign of diminishing.There is no evidence that the universe has an edge. The part of the universe we can observe from Earth is filled more or less uniformly with galaxies extending in every direction as far as we can see - more than 10 billion light-years, or about 6 billion trillion miles. We know that the galaxies must extend much further than we can see, but we do not know whether the universe is infinite or not. When astronomers sometimes refer (carelessly!) to galaxies "near the edge of the universe," they are referring only to the edge of the OBSERVABLE universe - i.e., the part we can see.
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Does the Universe have an edge, beyond which there is nothing?
Astar316
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Does the Universe have an edge, beyond which there is nothing?
Does your consciousness or your mind have an edge, beyond which there is nothing?!
The term 'dualism' was originally coined to denote co-eternal binary opposition, a meaning that is preserved in metaphysical and philosophical duality discourse
Dualists in the philosophy of mind emphasize the radical difference between mind and matter. They all deny that the mind is the same as the brain, and some deny that the mind is wholly a product of the brain. This article explores the various ways that dualists attempt to explain this radical difference between the mental and the physical world. A wide range of arguments for and against the various dualistic options are discussed.
Name one single thing in the known Universe that is non-dual.
Visitor2012
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Visitor2012
Name one single thing in the known Universe that is non-dual.
The idea here is that the entirety of the universe is one single thing.
That is still a dualistic definition. I know where you're getting at and I agree that all of the universe is one but that doesn't mean that its non-dual. How would you be able to describe that Universe without also referencing the empty space between stars?
Try to describe your Universe without reference to dualistic concepts. In other words, you can't mention stars, or any seperate forms within this so called one-universe, in fact you can't mention forms or things at all. It's impossible.edit on 16-2-2014 by Visitor2012 because: (no reason given)
I fail to see how the idea of contrastness upholds this part of the definition of duality: The term 'dualism' was originally coined to denote co-eternal binary opposition, a meaning that is preserved in metaphysical and philosophical duality discourse
Astar316
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okay....
Does consciousness or your mind have an edge, beyond which there is nothing?!
Seriously...
If you start to think about such a complex thing like duality and what it means, why do you think about the universe, when you could start with a fractal, that is much closer to you, and much easier to understand... You?!
Whenever you find and understand something about yourself, you will find a question answered you asked about something else.
I'm not trying to tell you, that you are wrong or something like that. You are as right, as I believe I am, but why would you start to think about duality at the edge of the universe. Nobody (except perhaps dr who) could answer questions about the edge of the universe, as no one ever really went there to look. But you can see yourself, and you can "hear" what you think and understand how you think, how your mind works. And I sincerly think this would be a much easier point to start with....
Krazysh0t
Visitor2012
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Visitor2012
Name one single thing in the known Universe that is non-dual.
The idea here is that the entirety of the universe is one single thing.
That is still a dualistic definition. I know where you're getting at and I agree that all of the universe is one but that doesn't mean that its non-dual. How would you be able to describe that Universe without also referencing the empty space between stars?
Try to describe your Universe without reference to dualistic concepts. In other words, you can't mention stars, or any seperate forms within this so called one-universe, in fact you can't mention forms or things at all. It's impossible.
All this does is demonstrate the simplicity and failings of our spoken languages as well as how we communicate. It by no way proves that duality is a real thing.edit on 16-2-2014 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)
I never said Duality was real. I said it's the means through which we can perceive existence. I agree, language is dualistic, EVERYTHING is dualistic. That was my original point. The topic was about NON-Dualism, and my argument was that non-duality as a perception...is NOT percievable. It doesn't exist because the word existence implies duality (EG. Existence vs. non-existence)
The challenge was that if people think non-duality is a reality (in ANY form) , name an example of it.edit on 16-2-2014 by Visitor2012 because: (no reason given)