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hoss53
Sounds like to me all the doom-sayers on the A.C.A are starting to fade out. Are they starting to realise that given a chance it will probably work.
I would suggest you find a new subject, before you haft to eat crow............
jimmyx
finally...a thread about bashing the ACA....it's just so hard to find one here on ATS....and all the info is so factual, and balanced. it's a shame really, after all those republicans tried to help get this going, the funding needed to make it work, the cooperation between parties, and now look what's happening!...good thing we have just a couple of astute republicans here to finally!!...finally!!!!....tell us that it is not working right.....thank you, thank you.
Pres. Obama in 2009 says that Obamacare is not a Tax (September 20, 2009).
Obama in 2009: "Absolutely Not a Tax Increase"
In 2010 Gibbs tried to defend Obama's pledge that he wouldn't raise taxes from healthcare (August 3, 2010).
Gibbs 2010: Obamacare is Not a Tax
proximo
... The evidence is clear - when the ACA was passed the democrats were in complete control. A single payor system could have been passed. Nearly all democrats agree a single payor system is superior to the system passed. There was no need for subterfuge.
The reason single payor was not passed is simple, congress is NOT interested in what is best for their constituents, they are interested in what is best for themselves - ie the insurance, and medical lobby bribing them. If you cannot see how this horrific rewrite of our medical system is legalized corporate theft, you are either willfully ignorant or stupid.
hoss53
Sounds like to me all the doom-sayers on the A.C.A are starting to fade out. Are they starting to realise that given a chance it will probably work.
I would suggest you find a new subject, before you haft to eat crow............
hoss53
Sounds like to me all the doom-sayers on the A.C.A are starting to fade out. Are they starting to realise that given a chance it will probably work.
I would suggest you find a new subject, before you haft to eat crow............
A CNN/ORC International survey released Thursday also indicates that President Barack Obama may be dragging down Democratic congressional candidates, and that the 2014 midterm elections are shaping up to be a low-turnout event, with only three in 10 registered voters extremely or very enthusiastic about voting next year.
The 13-point swing over the past two months follows a political uproar over Obamacare, which included the botched rollout of HealthCare.gov and controversy over the possiblity of insurance policy cancelations due primarily to the new health law.
Because of a quirk in the Affordable Care Act's drafting, the Northern Mariana Islands and the four other American territories are subject to some parts of the law but not others. This has messed up the individual market in the Northern Mariana Islands so badly that the one plan selling policies there told the territory's top insurance commissioner it would not sell new plans for 2014.
In other words: Beginning Jan. 1, regulators expect it will be literally impossible for an individual to buy a new policy in the Northern Mariana Islands, and difficult in other territories.
beezzer
reply to post by jrod
You do have a point in that, if the GOP takes the Senate then the White House, I think we'll still have some form of "Obamacare".
MystikMushroom
I am of the opinion that the ACA was never intended to "work". It was designed to fail and it was designed to get Americans talking about healthcare.
We will eventually see a single-payer system like the European countries and Canada have. America just wasn't ready to make that leap, so something in between that fails was needed.
When it starts to really fall apart Americans will scream "save us!" .... Enter the single-payer system.
jrod
reply to post by beezzer
What is so bad about a single-payer system? Or perhaps a government standard type of insurance that would still enable private insurance companies to exist?
I think those who write the rules think they can get away with it. All they have to do is demonize the single payer system and sell the idea that insurance companies making obscene profits it the American Way and those who oppose that are evil socialist, communists, ect....