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Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
The only nothing I see is the value of your outlook, which amounts to the regurgitation of another's ideas (Osho?).
Osho does not provide ideas or beliefs - he removes them.
He says that philosopher's are fools.
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
No; I am not a spirit. But likewise, it would be just as foolish to assume I am a body only.
When I walk in a room, I am not known as a body, I am not seen as a corpse, a slab of meat or a rotting flesh-prison.
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Osho does not provide ideas or beliefs - he removes them.
He says that philosopher's are fools.
So an advocate would have us believe.
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by covertpanther
I wrote this months ago. Don't flatter yourself.
Every time you hit a key, in an attempt to express your "inner" self, you contradict everything you say. How am I to believe someone who has never lived without a body, that our true nature is bodiless spirits? Every time you open your mouth, take a breath, exist in the moment, proves you wrong. That means you lie or are willfully ignorant.
Prove it to me. Become a bodiless spirit.
You dont even make any sense? I think your really confused, trying to convince yourself (with Bible quotes) of something your conscious mind does not understand.
There is no contridiciton; I am an AWARENESS ROOTED IN SIDE A BODY IN THSI DIMENSION. Obviously te awareness uses what it was taught (language) within the body to communicate with its fellow conscious beings. The electrical currents within my body OPERATE it via the conscious awareness I AM.
How is that contridicting anything? You are clearly stated you are not a philospher, nor are you adept in occult or spiritual knowledge - so stop arguing against something you have LITTLE understanding or experience about. ITs useless - you beat around the bush instead of take the facts and such I have presented you, face value. You choose NOT to learn (ignorantly) because you do not "beleive".
Belief is LIMITING to your compelte INTERNAL self. If you take the keys that have been presented (METAPHOR) and open the doors inside of your self (another META-phor) you will experience things, and thus understand more, and then have a valid reason to argue about such aspects of reality.
Your choosing to be an ignorant mind - choosing not to expand yourself and learn that which you have not experienced. You havent experienced the galaxy, but you beleive its there, you havent expereince the universe, yet you beleive its there. You havent experienced your spiritual essence, so you do not belive you have one Dafuque is wrong with you guy?
Here (again) I have given you LOTS of hints and the keys you need to enter into yourself - things take time, but you are obvious not willing to use that time on things that will reveal to you, the TRUTH of yourself. You jsut want to argue, bash, and beat around the bush until your body fails to support your life force (the electrical energy).
I've aided you in more ways then you can currently understand - you have only bashed what I have said. Says enough about yourself and what your about
How did yo uwrite this months ago - your thread post says "19/6/2013" .. 2 days after my thread, which you tried to bash and dismiss.
FAIL
Watch this whole video. Maybe you'll better understand the experience we're trying to explain.
I just assume no one ever agrees with me. Hopefully, at least, you were able to get some enjoyment out of it.
Where does this outlook leave me? Spiritless, an “enemy of God”, a heathen? Am I simply disregarded as some sad soul who believes in nothing?
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by HarryTZ
Watch this whole video. Maybe you'll better understand the experience we're trying to explain.
I am already learned in Osho's teachings from years back. His nihilism, the fact he drove a rolls royce and the actions of his huge following turned me off his insights quite a bit. I've moved forward since Osho. I need nothing from him.
Your choosing to be an ignorant mind - choosing not to expand yourself and learn that which you have not experienced. You havent experienced the galaxy, but you beleive its there, you havent expereince the universe, yet you beleive its there. You havent experienced your spiritual essence, so you do not belive you have one Dafuque is wrong with you guy?
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
Every promoter of the spirit tells me such. Only I can experience it for myself. No one can use their words and explain it to me. I have experienced enough "spirituality" in my life to know what the spirit is—or is not.
You are in a position to speak with authority about your own experiences, but on what basis do you assume that your personal observations apply universally?
You may view his actions as 'less than pure' (which is simply a judgment based on your biased expectations of an enlightened teacher), but it is not Osho that we follow. The wisdom he shares is beyond any single person or body. It emanates from the 'no-me-no-you-just-being' non-dual core of existence.
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
Maybe that's where we differ. Actions, to me, speak louder than words when they go against what is being preached. When the mouth says one thing, but the rest does differently, it doesn't go by unnoticed. I think I'm doomed to see hypocrisy in all philosophy. That may be my curse.