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Originally posted by backcase
I would say it has very much to do with the heart.
Heaven is in the heart of each saint. Seek a relationship with your heart, listen to it, as it hears from God Himself and speaks His words to you.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I have, the flamethrowers I put out with marshmallows on very long sticks burn them alive and are delicious candy coated.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
The thing unsaid is the fact we are all Sons and Daughters of God. He was a teacher, a Rabbi that was simply trying to tell us this; yes a nine dimensional being but we have that potencial to be him as well. The entire point of his ministry was not to make a laddered structure of hierarchy resulting in power grabs. We are all part and parcel of God divided from itself to experience itself.
Afterward another principle came from Immortal Man, who is called 'Self-perfected Begetter.' When he received the consent of his consort, Great Sophia, he revealed that first-begotten androgyne, who is called, 'First-begotten Son of God'. His female aspect is 'First-begotten Sophia, Mother of the Universe,' whom some call 'Love'. Now, First-begotten, since he has his authority from his father, created angels, myriads without number, for retinue. The whole multitude of those angels are called 'Assembly of the Holy Ones, the Shadowless Lights.' Now when these greet each other, their embraces become like angels like themselves.
First Begetter Father is called 'Adam of the Light.' And the kingdom of Son of Man is full of ineffable joy and unchanging jubilation, ever rejoicing in ineffable joy over their imperishable glory, which has never been heard nor has it been revealed to all the aeons that came to be and their worlds.
O glorious one, Jesus Christ! O chief commanders of the luminaries, you powers Armozel, Oroiael, Daveithe, Eleleth, and you man-of-light, immortal aeon Pigera-Adamas, and you good god of the beneficent worlds, Mirocheirothetou, through Jesus Christ, the Son of God!
[....] according to [....] the type of [...] see him. It is fitting for you at this time to send thy Son Jesus Christ and anoint us so we might be able to trample upon the snakes and the heads of the scorpions and all the power of the Devil since he is a shepherd of the seed. Through him we have known thee. And we glorify thee : Glory be to thee, the Father in the Son, the Father in the Son, the Father in the Holy Church and in the holy angels! From now he abides forever in the perpetuity of the Aeons, forever until the untraceable Aeons of the Aeons. Amen.
Indeed I entered by way of example the remnant for which the Christ rescued us in the fellowship of his Spirit. And he brought us forth who are in him, and from now on the souls will become perfect spirits. Now the things granted us by the first baptism
(44) Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in heaven."
And the Spirit ran after him, hastening from waking him up. Having extended his hand to him who lay upon the ground, he set him up on his feet, for he had not yet risen. He gave them the means of knowing the knowledge of the Father and the revelation of his Son. For when they had seen him and had heard him, he granted them to taste him, and to smell him, and to touch the beloved Son.
Just as the Father exists in the proper sense, the one before whom there was no one else, and the one apart from whom there is no other unbegotten one, so too the Son exists in the proper sense, the one before whom there was no other, and after whom no other son exists. Therefore, he is a firstborn and an only Son, "firstborn" because no one exists before him and "only Son" because no one is after him.
There is the Son of Man and there is the son of the Son of Man. The Lord is the Son of Man, and the son of the Son of Man is he who creates through the Son of Man. The Son of Man received from God the capacity to create.
The chrism is superior to baptism, for it is from the word "Chrism" that we have been called "Christians," certainly not because of the word "baptism". And it is because of the chrism that "the Christ" has his name. For the Father anointed the Son, and the Son anointed the apostles, and the apostles anointed us. He who has been anointed possesses everything. He possesses the resurrection, the light, the cross, the Holy Spirit. The Father gave him this in the bridal chamber; he merely accepted (the gift). The Father was in the Son and the Son in the Father. This is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
They may have but they had other more interesting ways. There was the invention of the Quabala, numbers they had help and not of this dimension, they used magic to light there homes, these would be quartz crystals that held power; they were living in obscurity forced isolation because they had higher knowledge the Saducee and Pharacee did not, their God was Not the Hebrew Yahweh.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
There were no trees in those lands other than the Olive or Asp, Lebonon cedar? Those "Ts" were imported and used again and again. I think the RC was afraid of the Gnostic Texts and did everything they could to hide/quell them (oops they show up in 1948 in clay jars hidden in Qumran) The Templars as decendents of the Essenes were murdered in France fled to Scotland and became "freemasons' . Paul was paid well for his new or baffling interpretation of the times of Jesus, Jesus was never known as the 'greek word Christ' meaning "messiah" until Paul and his handiwork misguided and to my mind torpedoed the message. But, hey its here and strong as ever.
They voyaged from his age 19 until he was 30 (the disapearance of Jesus explained) to very far regions including what is now known as Great Britian, the orient. Why was Joseph so interested in this child, and paid for his education in Egypt, (Alexandria) where he learned his Greek? I havent bothered to ask.
pthena
So his experience of the World and different people was not limited to Palestinian Aramaic as the propagandists have decided is official version. And I think he may have been familiar with the teachings of Philo if not the man himself. These are just opinions of mine. So what problem did he have with the Romans? He must have seen them just about everywhere he went?
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If we are part of creation and we are God, then God is both the creation and the creator, meaning he is not separate from creation. I got from your post that God is separate. Sorry if I misunderstood you.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Yes I did in April of last year, I had some questions and as I am able to make the phone calls and get the right connections (not through the NSA or Verizon) spoke to him. I write these down and if your interested Il post the conversation word for word. This is the point of ATS?, expose the NSA (they cant hear mind to mind transmissions). Im serious, Jesus is a reluctant hero. You should hear what Lucifer has to say about all of this.
Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I have, the flamethrowers I put out with marshmallows on very long sticks burn them alive and are delicious candy coated.
Good to know – Stay-Puff would be proud…lol
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
The thing unsaid is the fact we are all Sons and Daughters of God. He was a teacher, a Rabbi that was simply trying to tell us this; yes a nine dimensional being but we have that potencial to be him as well. The entire point of his ministry was not to make a laddered structure of hierarchy resulting in power grabs. We are all part and parcel of God divided from itself to experience itself.
Absolutely, Jesus was teaching that we are all Sons and Daughters of God. Many things which apply to Jesus, also apply to us. But I believe there is a hierarchy; no wait, hierarchy, isn’t really the right word. It’s more a case of there being an order to created beings. My personal view is that Jesus is the first created being and Co-creator with the Father from the very beginning. Which is why I believe Jesus says to the Pharisees, in John 10, that He was “set apart” etc…
Here are just a few Gnostic texts, which show that Jesus is “The Son of God.”
From “Eugnostos the Blessed”
Afterward another principle came from Immortal Man, who is called 'Self-perfected Begetter.' When he received the consent of his consort, Great Sophia, he revealed that first-begotten androgyne, who is called, 'First-begotten Son of God'. His female aspect is 'First-begotten Sophia, Mother of the Universe,' whom some call 'Love'. Now, First-begotten, since he has his authority from his father, created angels, myriads without number, for retinue. The whole multitude of those angels are called 'Assembly of the Holy Ones, the Shadowless Lights.' Now when these greet each other, their embraces become like angels like themselves.
First Begetter Father is called 'Adam of the Light.' And the kingdom of Son of Man is full of ineffable joy and unchanging jubilation, ever rejoicing in ineffable joy over their imperishable glory, which has never been heard nor has it been revealed to all the aeons that came to be and their worlds.
From “Melchizedek”
O glorious one, Jesus Christ! O chief commanders of the luminaries, you powers Armozel, Oroiael, Daveithe, Eleleth, and you man-of-light, immortal aeon Pigera-Adamas, and you good god of the beneficent worlds, Mirocheirothetou, through Jesus Christ, the Son of God!
From “On the Anointing”
[....] according to [....] the type of [...] see him. It is fitting for you at this time to send thy Son Jesus Christ and anoint us so we might be able to trample upon the snakes and the heads of the scorpions and all the power of the Devil since he is a shepherd of the seed. Through him we have known thee. And we glorify thee : Glory be to thee, the Father in the Son, the Father in the Son, the Father in the Holy Church and in the holy angels! From now he abides forever in the perpetuity of the Aeons, forever until the untraceable Aeons of the Aeons. Amen.
From “On The Baptism B”
Indeed I entered by way of example the remnant for which the Christ rescued us in the fellowship of his Spirit. And he brought us forth who are in him, and from now on the souls will become perfect spirits. Now the things granted us by the first baptism
From “The Gospel of Thomas”
(44) Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in heaven."
From “The Gospel of Truth”
And the Spirit ran after him, hastening from waking him up. Having extended his hand to him who lay upon the ground, he set him up on his feet, for he had not yet risen. He gave them the means of knowing the knowledge of the Father and the revelation of his Son. For when they had seen him and had heard him, he granted them to taste him, and to smell him, and to touch the beloved Son.
From the “The Tripartite Tractate”
Just as the Father exists in the proper sense, the one before whom there was no one else, and the one apart from whom there is no other unbegotten one, so too the Son exists in the proper sense, the one before whom there was no other, and after whom no other son exists. Therefore, he is a firstborn and an only Son, "firstborn" because no one exists before him and "only Son" because no one is after him.
Continued
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Yes I did in April of last year, I had some questions and as I am able to make the phone calls and get the right connections (not through the NSA or Verizon) spoke to him. I write these down and if your interested Il post the conversation word for word. This is the point of ATS?, expose the NSA (they cant hear mind to mind transmissions). Im serious, Jesus is a reluctant hero. You should hear what Lucifer has to say about all of this.
Joecroft
I agree with Akragon. You should make a thread on these….”word for word conversations”
I’d be interested in hearing them myself…
- JC
Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Allow me to share my conversation too…
It went something like this…
Father/Jesus:
Our Father who art in Heaven,
hallowed be Thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
On Earth as it is in Heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses
As we forgive those who trespass against us…
(Voice ended here…)
Joe Croft: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, for thine is the Kingdom, the power and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen…
Many years later…
Father/Jesus: What is man…? What are you…?
(After much searching)
Joe Croft: I am a Son of the Living Father…
About a year later, I found verse 3 in the Gnostic “Gospel of Thomas”…and the rest as they say, is history…
- JC
Originally posted by Joecroft
How do you know this…? Do you have any sources for this…?So he was paid well by Rome, and then they decided to have him executed for prophesying to be a Christian, of either the Gnostic, or the Standard Christianity variety. And then they took up his writings… to the letter….hmmm…Forget tic-tac-toe…have you ever tried connect 4 lol - JC
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I know because I introspect, I will quote no scripture unless I believe its tenency I will quote absolute truth told to me by my equals (as they are me as my higher selves, you know what that means you are me as well).
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Paul paid for his eternal rememberance through dieing? Jesus is A-PAUL-ED at this notion considering he never knew him and will not; cannot understand the mans mettle purpose or demeanor regarding his (by itself without consult to him/Jesus creating the "invention of Christianity". Jesus adament, never was spoken to about this. I just connect the dots, if I can locate them.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I know because I introspect, I will quote no scripture unless I believe its tenency I will quote absolute truth told to me by my equals (as they are me as my higher selves, you know what that means you are me as well).
Joecroft I’m not YOU lol
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
When we arrive back to Source you are indeed as individualized (YES) but the same being none the less. Think of every cell in your body as being individualized parts of you NOW. I am one cell you are another and that thing we hope will not kill us is at the helm. When that configuration dies, we go back to source as the same partial individualized being absorbed so to speak to make the host (US) more aware. We are it always have been.
Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
When we arrive back to Source you are indeed as individualized (YES) but the same being none the less. Think of every cell in your body as being individualized parts of you NOW. I am one cell you are another and that thing we hope will not kill us is at the helm. When that configuration dies, we go back to source as the same partial individualized being absorbed so to speak to make the host (US) more aware. We are it always have been.
If like you say, I keep my individual self and you keep yours, then I can never be you. And if we both merge with source, then I still can’t be you.You’ve always been from source, but just because you came from source, and are connected to it, doesn’t mean you are source IMO. Any merging with source, would result in you no longer being you.- JC
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Alright, then I suppose that idiotic notion of Brotherhood binds me/you to God, or the even more distastefull, we are Sons of God (NO ONLY JESUS gets that conformation). So what exactly are we; random expressions of an omnipotent Invisiable CREATURE that refuses to show itself, or are we IT right between the eyes.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I am assured we retain individualism upon death; that is all memories of past lives and purposes of; but never ever remembered when reincarnated again, that would be cheating.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
We go HOME is all to our existance before/after the calamity of being a human in the 3rd dimension (whole point? A joy ride in a car with an accellerator stuck and no brakes).