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Originally posted by howmuch4another
applause
This is the answer no question about it. Commitment is so much more effective than compliance.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by smyleegrl
Worked in a pharmacy for ten years. Medicare doesn't pay for Viagra. Private insurance does, however. The same companies that won't pay for female birth control will pay for Viagra.
It is the same thing, those men paid, and are paying the private insurance for what they need. All Americans are not forced to pay for the viagra of older men.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
It isn't just a political point, it is a freedom point as well. It is my right to not accept being forced to pay for what some people believe is their right.
Originally posted by smyleegrl
I understand your political point, but there's a practical one here as well.
Contraceptive costs what, thirty bucks a month? Whereas a child born into poverty and living on welfare costs a lot more.
Personally, I think we should hand out prophylactics like candy.
Originally posted by rgzing
I demand free condoms. If women do not have to pay for contraceptives then I should be able to pick up a box of condoms for free. It is discrimination and racist. Give me condoms or give me death.edit on 25-10-2012 by rgzing because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by Feltrick
Well, for some women "the pill" is used for health reasons, not just as a contraception.
Viagra is covered by most, if not all, health insurers. Why am I paying for a ninety year old to get his rocks off? Seems if we cover one, we should cover all.
There is a big difference, those old men have been paying to social security for decades, and it is this money that they paid and which has gathered interest which is being used to pay for his viagra.
There is no mandate that specifically FORCES every American pay for the viagra of some older men...edit on 25-10-2012 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)
Erections Get Insurance; Why Not the Pill?
Originally posted by Grimpachi
I never said the wars however I personally do not like how religious organizations do not have to pay taxes and the federal government helps subsidize their hospitals. That would be on my list.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
On the subject of freedoms we will have to disagree because I personal do not feel anyone’s freedom has been breached especially in how the law was written. If they feel it is a religious thing then I don’t see how this will affect them after all those religious people would never take advantage of the program in which case no one is paying a dime.
Originally posted by letseeit7
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
So lets think about this , free birth control or pay for all the families with kids on welfare ! Sounds cheaper to prevent it . What do I know ? Basic math maybe , it's called the lesser of two evil's . It also cuts down on crime when you don't have unwanted children grow up too be criminals . And that is a proven fact on the crime thing .
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
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There is no mandate because as long as the doctor says it's for medical reasons Viagra is covered. This option is not available for women on Medicare. These guys paid into the system that is true but women pay into that system also. I have yet to hear anyone complain about Viagra. This is a classic double standard.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
Calm down. You can go to the health department and they will give you a whole bag of them. It’s nothing new.
I needed that laugh.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
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There is no mandate because as long as the doctor says it's for medical reasons Viagra is covered. This option is not available for women on Medicare. These guys paid into the system that is true but women pay into that system also. I have yet to hear anyone complain about Viagra. This is a classic double standard.
Is viagra being used to kill babies?
You might disagree with my opinion that abortions are killing babies, but that is YOUR opinion, and a misguided one.
You might want to claim "this is only a religious belief", but I don't follow any particular religion. In fact, I haven't even been to church in ages. It is not a religious belief, it is a moral, and logical belief.
You might want to claim that a human fetus is not a developed person, but neither are babies that have been born and little children...
As humans we are developing ALL OF OUR LIVES, and as such we are a constantly evolving beings, and so are human fetuses.