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Originally posted by dainoyfb
reply to post by MamaJ
You are completely missing the point. Juleo is saying that all of the sky charts written years ago agree with where the sun and stars are now. If there was an unexpected change of the sun's or Earth's position then the old charts would not agree, but they do.
I'm sorry, I can't make it any simpler for you than that. If you can't understand this very simple concept then you really have no business debating it.
edit on 29-7-2012 by dainoyfb because: of typo.
Originally posted by rickymouse
Here's what I think is happening. en.wikipedia.org...
The thing I noticed about this is that three days later the sun appears normal and then you look at it again in a couple of days and it appears way up north again. I live south of Lake superior and that may have something to do with this refraction. I first noticed it in about 2009 after the light drought ended here. There are a lot of variables altering peoples perception of the position. Maybe there has been more changes to our atmosphere than we are being told. Geoengineering could cause this refraction if it is happening.
Originally posted by Thebel
Sun is moving, it moves around 220 km/s around the center of our galaxy. Though we don't notice it. Only thing how Sun can either set too north or south is when Earth's axis changes. Also, Sun position is bit different daily, because Earth is always in different spot. Earth's axis changes very slowly and human life is not long enough to notice it. Earth is currently tilted as 23.4° and this stays very stable over long periods of time, it takes around 25,800 years from lowest tilt to highest. That is not big change, but causes some climate variations.
Originally posted by jacygirl
Hello OP and everyone....
I haven't been watching the sun, but I have been watching the moon.
I sit outside when I smoke, and I'm on a balcony which means that I have a framed rectangle of sky that I can see....and my perspective is always the same. (facing south)
This last week I started paying attention to where the moon was, how early I could see it, etc. (at the same times each day).
One afternoon at 3 pm the moon was visible directly in front of me. By 8 pm it was so far to the west that it was out of my viewing area. The next day I couldn't see it until early evening, and it was "lower" in the sky than the previous night....and farther west.
The next couple of nights, around 8 p.m. the moon was "lower" and more to the east (my left).
This may sound silly to some, but in just one week I noticed both where and when it was visible to me (from my constant seat).....and it was never in the same place twice.
jacygirl
Originally posted by Thebel
Sun is moving, it moves around 220 km/s around the center of our galaxy. Though we don't notice it. Only thing how Sun can either set too north or south is when Earth's axis changes. Also, Sun position is bit different daily, because Earth is always in different spot. Earth's axis changes very slowly and human life is not long enough to notice it. Earth is currently tilted as 23.4° and this stays very stable over long periods of time, it takes around 25,800 years from lowest tilt to highest. That is not big change, but causes some climate variations.
Thank you for that! I wasn't aware that the moon's position changed.....
It's funny what you notice when you start paying close attention to something.
So many of us are watching the sky lately.....feeling that something is "off" or different.
Originally posted by crazyguy2012
reply to post by isyeye
I understand that and I also have a very good sense of direction. The position of the sun changes constantly. It is more to the south during the winter and more to the north in summer. But to me it seems like it is about ten degrees to far north than it should be. Maybe fifteen degrees off... It seems to be a little too far north.
I am a constant skywatcher and I have seen many sunsets. The suns position doesn't seem right for the end of july...
If I had measured it using a compass on July 28 of last year and compared it to this year I am sure it would be much more north right now. But since I never predicted this would happen I cannot prove it. But it doesn't seem to be right.
I think the difference should be more noticeable the more north or south you are. Either way not sure this would end life or anything like that. It just seems like it would cause a very rapid change. areas that were cold will be hot, hot cold, dry will be wet, wet areas will become deserts.
I am not sure I posted this in the right area. This isn't a psychic prediction. Just a prediction based upon my observations.