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Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Originally posted by stupid girl
You should already know the answer to this, since you have personal contact with above.
At the very least, you should be able to find the answer in your books.
edit to add: And for a Muslim replace God with Allah. (same guy)
Originally posted by jhill76
Is Jesus the only way to God?
Could Jesus have meant, imitate me, be like me, and you can enter heaven? Do you really think people who lived their lives like Brother, but don't accept him as Savior will be sent to eternal damnation?
You have other scriptures that talk about accepting Christ, but did Brother specifically say to do this or perish? Is it possible with having a direct relationship with God, or choosing your own way to God, but being good?
What has been translated into "believe in me," I think is a subtle tweak. I believe with all my heart and soul that he said "believe me", which is entirely different than believing "in" him being the "only way." I know he meant believe that if you live like I do, you are doing the will of the Divine.
that one word could mean the difference for many people out there
Originally posted by jhill76
Many are taught that accepting Jesus Christ and accepting him into your life, you will be saved from hell. But, did Brother make this claim? The closest we can come to this is:
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Could Jesus have meant, imitate me, be like me, and you can enter heaven? Do you really think people who lived their lives like Brother, but don't accept him as Savior will be sent to eternal damnation?
You have other scriptures that talk about accepting Christ, but did Brother specifically say to do this or perish? Is it possible with having a direct relationship with God, or choosing your own way to God, but being good?edit on 19-7-2012 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jhill76
Is it possible with having a direct relationship with God, or choosing your own way to God, but being good?edit on 19-7-2012 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)
Before 12th century: Old English heofon, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch hemel and German Himmel.
2. The Greek word is "ouranos" (the root of the word "Uranus")
and it simply means the sky, the heavens. ... "ouranos"
source
Edward Wright addresses the biblical conception of what happens to the dead:
Two verses from the Book of Psalms summarize the biblical conceptions of the afterlife and of humans’ place in the heavenly realm: “Heaven is Yahweh’s heaven, but the earth he has given to humans. The dead do not praise Yahweh, nor all those who go down to silence” (Psalm 115:16–17). These verses pointedly indicate what the biblical tradents thought about humanity’s place in the heavenly realm—they have no place there! [4]
Wright goes on to point out that both Judaism and Christianity adopted ideas of the afterlife from the culture surrounding them:
In the fifth century BCE, belief in a heavenly afterlife developed and spread across the Mediterranean world and the ancient Near East [Emphasis added]. Segments in Judaism and Christianity eventually adopted the belief that humans could have a place in the heavenly realm…The emerging Jewish conceptions of the universe and the ideas about what happens to a person after death were not the natural outgrowth of biblical religiosity but were the product of the fruitful interaction of the ancient biblical traditions with new trends in religion and science during the Greco-Roman period. Early Christianity…inherited aspects of both the biblical traditions and the newer Hellenistic expressions of Judaism
Therefore, "good" is entirely and completely subjective and there is no universal standard of measurement for "good."
o I would say that the Jesus being and the Heaven Christians believe in it probably there, after all, they did create it, didn't they? Trouble is, things created in the Etheric Plane are not really tangible, they are fleeting, and are only held in place by constant concious thought streams.
Originally posted by rickymouse
Well, I'm probably going to hell because I pray to God instead of Jesus. It's not that I don't believe Jesus didn't exist, it's just that I never have liked dealing with middlemen. I'll take a chance at letting my actions speak to god instead. I thank god every day and I also thank Mother Earth for making this experience possible and for supplying the food and water I eat. I think of Jesus as more of a friend or teacher than as God. Like I said, I expect to go to a nice warm place when I die.
Originally posted by jhill76
Originally posted by stupid girl
You should already know the answer to this, since you have personal contact with above.
At the very least, you should be able to find the answer in your books.
You are assuming this is my intent in posting this, it is surely not. I see we have nothing useful to add, as usual.edit on 19-7-2012 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)