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Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by HamrHeed
hmmmmm, considering it was .... Longshanks, i think ... i'm guessing it could really go either way, eh ??
King or Queen ... both of England.
but, but ... i thought we fought a Revolution to escape the clutches of the King/Queen of the day and all future days ??
yeah, nevermind ... i must be mistaken
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by MuonSpin
I expected someone would say this. The 'ties' factcheck.org's parent company has to Bill Ayers or Obama is not enough to convice me their information is false or distorted. Your claim is ambiguous @ best.
Well alright then, you won't be seen complaining about posts using WND either.
Originally posted by MuonSpin
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by MuonSpin
I expected someone would say this. The 'ties' factcheck.org's parent company has to Bill Ayers or Obama is not enough to convice me their information is false or distorted. Your claim is ambiguous @ best.
Well alright then, you won't be seen complaining about posts using WND either.
Not 100% sure what you are saying here. I did take my adderall today, yet I don't see the connection between my post and WND.
But since you said I won't be seen complaining about WND, I'll tell you my experience w/WND is that its ganglion of erroneous information.
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
if we were to for whatever reason assume that to be a natural born citizen both of an individuals parents had to be born in the united states
in what way would the founding fathers be qualified for office?
are birthers really attempting to argue that the founding fathers would be unqualified to become president?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by MuonSpin
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by MuonSpin
I expected someone would say this. The 'ties' factcheck.org's parent company has to Bill Ayers or Obama is not enough to convice me their information is false or distorted. Your claim is ambiguous @ best.
Well alright then, you won't be seen complaining about posts using WND either.
Not 100% sure what you are saying here. I did take my adderall today, yet I don't see the connection between my post and WND.
But since you said I won't be seen complaining about WND, I'll tell you my experience w/WND is that its ganglion of erroneous information.
You just proved my cynical point, that you will say that Factcheck is just fine but WND is not.
Umm ok about the Adderall. I generally don't have a problem with people and ADHD.
"BTW, Romney's dad was born in Mexico, so if there logic DID hold, which it doesn't, neither candidate would be eligilbe, now would they?"
I don't care so much about eligible as I do about being qualified, and in the peoples best interest, and it seems neither candidate has these traits. TPTB win, no matter who we choose (if, after all the voting machine scandal and corruption, our votes even count).. It seems like a no brainer to me...if these are the two choices, I'll vote for Mickey Mouse! (Too bad R.Paul won't be in it, as he seems more than qualified, and eligible). I guess the only thing left to do is to pray that the Mayan hoopla was right, and we get wiped out this coming December 21st, as some predict....('')
edit on 6/1/2012 by eatbliss because: formatting
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
TThe Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. A 2011 Congressional Research Service report stated
The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.[1]
There it is, directly from the government. Natural born means born IN the US, regardless of parental status. His dad's birth place has no effect whatsoever just as Romney's dad being born in Mexico has no effect whatsoever.
The end
case closed
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What no one expected was to have Barack Obama’s dual citizenship confirmed, again, by listing the name and birthplace of the father Barack Obama Senior and Kenya, East Africa (lots of name changes there since the 2008 short form). Barack Obama junior was born a dual citizen of Britain and the United States. The failure for Mr. Obama is that once born a British citizen, one cannot lose that citizenship unless it is specifically renounced. His Kenyan citizenship may have expired unless he claimed it in 1983-but not his original British bonafides.
Originally posted by CB328
Obama is not qualified to be POTUS.
Only if you think minorities are unqualified to be President, which is the real issue here.
What happened to all the birthers saying they would shut up if Obama produced a birth certificate? What a bunch of lying morons.
Originally posted by artnut
Originally posted by CB328
Obama is not qualified to be POTUS.
Only if you think minorities are unqualified to be President, which is the real issue here.
What happened to all the birthers saying they would shut up if Obama produced a birth certificate? What a bunch of lying morons.
So tired of the racist rant, by the way, as of last week more "minority" babies were born in our country than white babies. The handwriting is on the wall, how will you use the race card when the minorities are actually white people?
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
are birthers really attempting to argue that the founding fathers would be unqualified to become president?
Originally posted by redneck13
reply to post by PurpleChiten
Don’t mess with that third eye stuff little chiten. Once my dad opened up his third eye, us kids had to evacuate the house it stunk the place up so bad
Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
reply to post by RealSpoke
No one cares other than conspiracy theorists, regardless of their political affiliation
You are in a conspiracy theorists realm....You think average people tune into ATS? If that was the case maybe I should get my parents to become members....I will tell you what they won't be voting for Obama, I will make sure of that....My family from where I can reach won't be voting for Obama....
Or Romney...edit on 1-6-2012 by KonquestAbySS because: (no reason given)