Top Ten Real Conspiracies.

Yes a great list
but like others I wonder about the biggest conspiracy
of our time it has become public knowledge and yet nothing
I speak of course about the tobacco industry.
well known and documented they engineered cigarettes
to be addictive and the fact that they hid research concerning
cancer, intimidated or paid off researchers. huge collections
of evidence have come out, and nothing some cancer lawsuits
which benefited lawyers.

class action lawsuits now thats a conspiracy
the first filer and the legions of lawyers benefit everyone else
gets ten bucks. lawyers taking a cut of of your settlement
what the hell is that? I'm sorry was it your children who got
tumors from drinking tainted water?

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Maybe add also, we went to the moon and back without any lead shielding to protect us. My answer to this is show me the lunar mcdonalds that you built there and i'l believe and all the money you've made from it since.Or maybe just send a jumbo jet up to within the van allen belts once in a while covered with heat resistant bathroom tiles and call this space exploration.
Americans are lovely people but they aint half gullable.Mind you I guess this was the biggest scam of the 20th century.The latest one is the dreaded co2 without which nothing would grow ,including us but never mind it is taxable and sun activity is'nt.

Welcome to my first post here

I found the place because a friend linked me to the "Granny D speech" here.

Re. Pearl Harbor. Conspiracy or no, I would have to say that 10 months advance notice, with specific details, would go a ways towards dispelling the notion "we had no idea".

Here is the communication, and here are a couple of things from it. (empasis mine)

Feb. 1, 1941 (so much for a suprise)

"The Peruvian Minister has informed a member of my staff that he has heard from many sources, including a Japanese source, that in the event of trouble breaking out between the US and Japan, the Japanese intend to make a suprise attack against Pearl Harbor with all of their strength, and employing all of their equipment.

The Peruvian Minister considered these rumors fantastic.

Naval Intelligence places no credence in these rumors ... no move against PH appears imminent or planned for the forseeable future.

So, adding it up:

• The Ambassador to Japan, and his staff knew.
  
• The State Dept. knew.
  
• Naval Intelligence (ONI) knew.
  
• Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) knew.
  
• CINCPAC knew, but was told to ignore it by ONI and CNO. (Naturally, the guy they hung out to dry, when it happened.)

Would I be too far out on a limb to assume one of these people probably mentioned it in passing to FDR?
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Now, someone said the the best conspiracies are the ones no one finds out ever happened. This is my favorite, because it shapes nearly every discussion about the citizen/state relationship. The assumption it teaches dooms most discussions to failure, it's so wide spread.

You get NO RIGHTS from the Bill Of Rights.

The dirty little secret is, you had them already!

If you doubt that, go back and read them again, for yourself. They are writen "in the negative" to the extent that what they set out, are things government must never, and in fact, has no authority to even legislate upon. (The basic reason the Patriot Act, MC Act, most of Bush's signing statements, and Presidential Orders, are unconstitutional on their face.)

A very good SHORT essay on this concept was written about 2 years ago by Charley Reese, and I reccomend it to anyone who values the little freedom they have left.

Fred

To ease the minds of people like me who want to know more about the JFK assasination,a man named James Files or James Sutton claims to have fired the fatal shot that killed JFK and he fired it from the grassy knoll so he claims.I am not sure of his validity but you can google his name or names and find out that he was associated with the mafia back in 1963.It will also let you find out about him and his story.

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Hi and nice list, someone should compose full list of what ppl have added after the first post. I quickly skimmed through it and noticed that 7/7 was missing - sorry if it already existed here, didn't mean to steal the credits hehe, as if there were any.

7/7 London Bombings - oddities and conflicting reports:

Mock Terror Excercises

Diverted Bus #30

London Under Attack, Panorama serie 2004

Witnesses reports

Conflicting reporting on news

But just to render everything above as false, there is an official photo of the four bombers in Luton. Taken 7:21 7 / 7 / 2005 by camera 14: Great timing!

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the creation of the fed has to be up there....

along with the start of the mexican-american war made possible by the propaganda from Hearst newspapers.....

but the hard part is to judge one bigger than another...
a crime is a crime....right?

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we can't ignore attempts to control us quietly, by starting these programs with the young, who have limited rights....

it makes it that much easier to carry it over to the rest of us....

let us ask ourselves what kind of society are we setting up when we allow our youth to be treated like criminals...

something to always keep an eye on...

Well, the "PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY" is a document that for what could be considered a conspiracy. At least an outline for one.

Another I wish would show itself is the voting machines and their memory chips which have their own re-writable program. The re-districting and disqualification of many voters.

Rigged election conspiracy.

ok Is it just me or did anyone notice whilst georgy took his finger off the economy button some serious # was happening .. also this is just my speculation but .... I hope it aint true



Al


the US used the kurdish rebels to invade Iraq but with the unstable relations with the amount of money worth of oil flowing through the gulf that the United States have used theyve pulled back with support as turkey have protested and since the oil is sent through turkey.. The US have sacrificed the Kurdish Rebels for the good ole USA oil program.. With that the Kurdish rebels have stepped up their campaign and the only option they have being between a rock and a hard place have threatened the oil pipeline through thier region.. I believe they the US have sent in spec ops forces to stabilise the Kurdish rebels using high altitude low opening parachute regimin but the fact I believe that the US actually supplied thge weapons for the PKK to stage a offensive against the Northern Front when they invaded Iraq has emboldened the Kurdish who have a history of heavy desert impoverished fighting .. I mean why would turkey use air strikes against a small disorganised militia.. I think the CIA has given them specialist training and now regrets it..anyway.. I was and have been watching the OPEC nations they seem to know whats happening there .. you wouldnt listen to the US you wouldnt listen to Turkey .. But OPEC has a high level of imformation the US even spys upon...

There is only 1 true conspiracy and thats The Illuminati/Freemasonry/ The Brotherhood of the Snake/NWO.

They were behind every conspiracy since the days of Babylon and Sumer.

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new world order!!north american union bringing together mexico and cananda!!!planet x, russia attacking american airspace in alaska and war preparations..china and taiwan..us and iran and syria...axis is tilting and it will have dramatic effects on weather patterns!!global warming is a mustard spot on the bloody shirt..icecaps melting...2012-prophecies!!! spread the love!!!read revelation in the bible!!read the book of daniel!!!read matthew!!!praise GOd....
the mark of satan is the chip after the one world religion!!!be aware!!!simply praise the lord and encourage others to do also!!!dead serious!!!

Don't forget the Gunpowder Plot. Though it has pretty much become synonymous with Guy Fawkes, it was technically put forth by a number of English Catholic extremists and qualifies as a conspiracy (and a proven one).

Also:

* Oklahoma City Bombing
* The Gulf of Tonkin Incident
* Secret Bombing of Cambodia
* Overthrow of Hawaiian Kingdom leading to the subsequent annexation of Hawaii
* DeBeers Diamond Price Fixing Scandal
* The 1919 World Series

/tn.

Excellent thread..

One of the best I read was Ian Flemmings war memoirs.. Supposedly he was on a dutch sub in the Pacific as the Japanese planes headed to Pearl harbour. He was working for MI6 and was under instruction to scuttle the sub before they could get word to the US that they were on their way. Which supposedly he did, he then did one Bond style and ended up helping Hienrich Himmler escape down the Berlin canal.

Would the fact that no Senators would endorse the multitude of challenges to the assignments of Florida's 25 electorial votes by the Congressional Black Caucus (2000 election) , as Al Gore Presided over the Certification banging his gavel in objection, be accepted as true, and if so, since he is a fellow member of skull and bones with Bush, and didn't endorse any challenge to the challenges which also happened to be from a state that was governed by Bush's brother, and the probable cause of his "defeat", be considered at least in the top 12 conspiracies?

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lead is not the only material that can defend against radiation. Gold can as well, and theoretically any material with a high enough density could stop radiation particles.

oh..heres another good bit of info..ever look at a pack of smokes in a black light? When i first started smoking i noticed that in the bar, your smoke pack glows where ur cigarrette tops sit in the pack. and if you look closely at a cigarette, there are little peices that glow as well.

I don't know if its been said but one thing that will still take a few years to confirm is the harmful effects of cellular phones...

I watched a program on TV that showed a large company was paid a large amount of money to discover health risks caused by phones and they wont publish their findings.
If you were told right now that using cellphones are bad for your health (like smoking)...would you stop? Would the cellphone companies publish truthful reports?? not any time soon methinks

My top ten conspiracies are:
1. JFK Assassination;
2. MLK Assassination;
3. RFK Asssassination;
4. Roswell/UFO coverup;
5. USS Liberty;
6. 9/11;
7. NWO/Freemasonry;
8. Gulf of Tonkin Incident;
9. WMD Claims; and,
10. Lincoln Assassination
There are many others that I considered before settling on the ones listed above.

thank you for this thread, very important, to introducing people to the idea of conspiracy theories.

I have met my fair share of people who will tell you to your face that they won't accept any news or history unless it comes from ''offical'' sources......how disgusting.