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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I can't give Paul a win in a debate that he doesn't have any control in.
If he wants to win a debate...he needs to be more commanding. He sits, he waits, he gets ignored, he gets called in, gives his same canned answer he gives at every debate in a very awkward and stuttering fashion, and he goes back to sitting, and waiting....wash, rinse, repeat.
It's hard to say who is "winning" this debate. Gingrich squashed the ex-wife story...Romney has successfully stayed on his spinning platform...Santorum is attacking like an animal...and Ron Paul is giving his consistant answer.edit on 19-1-2012 by OutKast Searcher because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by squidboy
Originally posted by Grimpachi
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by Grimpachi
When Ron Paul says things like need to get out of South Korea that's where he loses me as a veteran and having served their I know the importance of why we need to be there and so should he.
So you disagree with your brothers in uniform?
He gets the most active duty donations than everyone else combined
No I dissagree with Ron Paul. I don't care where his money comes from. That should not be the point.
Rather have money donated to a candidate from Vets then corporations and banks. And I believe campaign donations speak highly of the man. Most vets are sick of war (obviously I'm guessing , those that are not stationed in SK).
Really though, We need to be there? Why?
To maintain peace?
What happens when our economy collapses because we overstretched ourselves protecting other nations? What happens then, peace wise?
Either we get out now and try to maintain our own boarders or we continue to overstretch our military arms/ eventually financially self destructing because of it. Either way, we will eventually leave. I'd rather have our own nation remain stability.
I'm not singling you out, I just don't get why people think we can continue to play world police, without compromising our own national security. It's not our job to play world police. We do not need bases in almost every country on earth....
We can't afford it anyways. If things don't change, it's going to get worse here at home.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I can't give Paul a win in a debate that he doesn't have any control in.
If he wants to win a debate...he needs to be more commanding. He sits, he waits, he gets ignored, he gets called in, gives his same canned answer he gives at every debate in a very awkward and stuttering fashion, and he goes back to sitting, and waiting....wash, rinse, repeat.
It's hard to say who is "winning" this debate. Gingrich squashed the ex-wife story...Romney has successfully stayed on his spinning platform...Santorum is attacking like an animal...and Ron Paul is giving his consistant answer.edit on 19-1-2012 by OutKast Searcher because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Grimpachi
Originally posted by squidboy
Originally posted by Grimpachi
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by Grimpachi
When Ron Paul says things like need to get out of South Korea that's where he loses me as a veteran and having served their I know the importance of why we need to be there and so should he.
So you disagree with your brothers in uniform?
He gets the most active duty donations than everyone else combined
No I dissagree with Ron Paul. I don't care where his money comes from. That should not be the point.
Rather have money donated to a candidate from Vets then corporations and banks. And I believe campaign donations speak highly of the man. Most vets are sick of war (obviously I'm guessing , those that are not stationed in SK).
Really though, We need to be there? Why?
To maintain peace?
What happens when our economy collapses because we overstretched ourselves protecting other nations? What happens then, peace wise?
Either we get out now and try to maintain our own boarders or we continue to overstretch our military arms/ eventually financially self destructing because of it. Either way, we will eventually leave. I'd rather have our own nation remain stability.
I'm not singling you out, I just don't get why people think we can continue to play world police, without compromising our own national security. It's not our job to play world police. We do not need bases in almost every country on earth....
We can't afford it anyways. If things don't change, it's going to get worse here at home.
If we leave South Korea North Korea will attack and they will win unless we go back to war. We have promised to defend South Korea pulling out is not a option. When I was there there were at least three times that North Korea threatened war. The DMZ is a cease-fire scenario technically they are still at war. Still like your cheap cars and electronics and that is only possible because we have troops there. That is only part of the reason but it is enough of a reason.
The idea that I should vote for Ron Paul because other people in the military vote for Ron Paul is antiAmerican. I served my country but I did not give up my right to have my own opinion. The opposite should be true. I have my own idea of why Ron Paul is popular with military. He is not as popular with veterans.
Ron Paul just made a point that we should bring our troops home and put them on our borders which is unconstitutional. Somebody should call him out on that.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Abortion was a issue 25 years ago
Lets talk Iran, Deficits, education, Frustrating
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Abortion was a issue 25 years ago
Lets talk Iran, Deficits, education, Frustrating
Originally posted by ararisq
Paul on Illegal Immigration
WIN - bring the troops home and get the Department of Defense to DEFEND our borders.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
If we leave South Korea North Korea will attack and they will win unless we go back to war. We have promised to defend South Korea pulling out is not a option. When I was there there were at least three times that North Korea threatened war. The DMZ is a cease-fire scenario technically they are still at war. Still like your cheap cars and electronics and that is only possible because we have troops there. That is only part of the reason but it is enough of a reason.
The idea that I should vote for Ron Paul because other people in the military vote for Ron Paul is antiAmerican. I served my country but I did not give up my right to have my own opinion. The opposite should be true. I have my own idea of why Ron Paul is popular with military. He is not as popular with veterans.
Ron Paul just made a point that we should bring our troops home and put them on our borders which is unconstitutional. Somebody should call him out on that.
Originally posted by MysticPearl
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Abortion was a issue 25 years ago
Lets talk Iran, Deficits, education, Frustrating
You must be a man, and not an intelligent one, if you think abortion isn't an issue anymore.