My thoery as to why Alex Jones doesn't like Occupy.

Alex Jones is just mad that this Nationwide revolution wasn't started by him. He has been trying to get the people off of their a**es for years.

When The People finally do rise up he's just upset that he isn't the "face" spearheading the movement. I like Alex Jones but I think he has been trying to become that "historical leader" who's name will go down in history books for being the leader of the 2nd American Revolution. I remember watching a video of him storming Austin, Texas capital or something with a small crowd not too long ago. That was BEFORE Occupy. He seems to want to be the individual that is leading the charge right into he halls of Congress to overthrow our oppressors.

Others believe he full of ****. That he is actually enlisted by TPTB. I'm sorry but its kind of hard to believe that someone exposing all their secrets is on their side. Maybe someone can explain to me in detail how Alex Jones is being used by TPTB if you truly think that's the case. I am open to ideas but a conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory is a little much for me. Same goes for the Occupy Movement being "planned" by TPTB. Personally, I don't think TPTB saw this coming. I think TPTB thought they were going to get away with the crap that went down in 2008 and laugh all the way to the bank.

I "defend" Alex Jones because he has people like Gerald Celente come on his show who speak the truth with no BS. Gerald Celente use to be a normal face within the media and now he's blacked out because all he talks about is economic collapse and WW3. Gerald Celente used to be labeled as a sound resource by the MSM but now he's a "nut job" you never hear about anymore.

In my opinion Alex is a Patriot. He has very strong American principles that I think everyone should possess. If anything, discovering Alex Jones has made me a stronger American in my own principles. That isn't just because I discovered Alex. I've found out how our rights don't carry as much weight as I thought they did. I felt everything I was taught in high school about Freedom was a giant lie. Now with what I've learned, I try to emanate the Founding Father's principles as much as I can(Minus slavery and all the other negatives that we have overcome as a country). Dissent and Deny Ignorance are American traits. I feel ever since I discovered all these "conspiracy theories" it made me get back in touch with my "American roots". The understanding of what true Freedom is. No one seems to understand what Freedom is anymore. So how can AJ be a bad thing if this is what he helps instill? My only problem is that Alex Jones just thinks he's the next George Washington or something and he's pissed he isn't leading the Movement like he thought he would be.

Too bad for him that the Occupy Movement is leaderless. IMO the fact that it is leaderless is a good thing.

This brings me to another point. What if all this hoopla about the Federal Reserve and TPTB and the secret societies ACTUALLY IS a bunch of BS? But if its causing a facelift of the system that is obviously outdated is that really a bad thing in the end? What if all this disinformation was actually just a "white lie" for the progress of humanity. Again, this is just an idea that I got thinking about the other day. I don't actually believe in this but I thought it would be some good food for thought.

Celente and Kaiser are the reason why his show is watchable/audible, the rest is fluffand disinfo imo. If Alex really opposed the elite he would not be on am radio which is dominated by conservative stations. Alex was at the Dallas occupy though Ill give him that. Overall, Alex is a lot of ranting, ridiculous voice impersonations and scandalous fearmongering for profit through his sponsors. When it comes to his "show"' it seems all boils down to $$$ as usual.

Alex Jones is used by TPTB like this,he reveals things that have already or will get out in a crazy,over the top way on a crazy radio show.The way he presents things makes everything sound crazy.Glen Beck does the same thing.Their job is to confuse things.They are both 'TPTB hubs' that make it alot harder to get to the real truth of things.

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I see what you're saying but I found his "message" without giving him a dime. He actually encourages people to copy his movies and give them to friends.

I don't want to sound like I'm protecting him by any means. My view of AJ has been up in the air as of late. I'm just saying his message of American principles has, in partial, helped me reached a better understanding of what it means to be Free. I didn't learn that in high school. I learned it myself through research of "conspiracy theories" and understand where history of the last century has led us.

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.

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Part of me thinks Jones is proud to not be behind the movement, for the following reasons...

The problem with OWS is that the target is too broad. This is what leads to misled protesters broadcasting their BS views or wants on national media. Of course the MSM is going to look for these folks and make a spectacle out of them and link them to the entire movement.

Protests of corporate greed as a general portrayal of a movement? Well that's initially a problem since the idea of profit is what drives markets.

A more specific protest is always more effective. Hence the "End The Fed" protests. They leave very little room for the media to spin things, and that is why you are not hearing more about it on major news networks.

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Jones is just mind controlled false opposition, like Ron Paul. OWS is not much different. All playing the cards they were dealt by the elite, who are just sock puppets themselves.

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I listen to AJ too and agree with him on a lot of things, but he does throw the wrench into the gears here and there. First, he continues this ridiculous notion that Obama is a socialist when clearly the potus is as fascist as they come just like his predecessors. Second, he is scandalous to the point of being ridiculous while profiting from the fear he instills daily. He does have great guests such as Celente, Kaiser and maybe Ventura but the rest tend to be profiteers in the industry of fear.

Anyhow, the big eye-opener for me was when I heard him on am radio here in Dallas. As you know, the corporate ultra conservative radio will not allow some elite-hating anchor without a motive. I seriously doubt Alex infiltrated Bohemian Grove at this point. All arrows point to him actually having been a guest with the blessing of the elite painting him as the insane, blithering voice of conspiracy theorists worldwide.

Alex is entertaining (imo of course) but trustworthy? No way.

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Alex Jones is just mad that this Nationwide revolution wasn't started by him.

bingo. I stated that in some other thread, but I agree 100%. The reason Alex hasn't fully backed OWS is they won't make him the poster child, and since he's the "infowarrior" there is simply no way a massive group of people would organize like this without HIM.

That's why he'll say some nice things here and there, and also some questionable things, it all depends on how they reacted to him the last time he went out.

Jeff Rense is another to keep a close eye on, or completely ignore. His site will post all types of videos and articles that would be considered "pro-ows" while also posting articles attempting to link them to Soros, and just this morning an article was there, linked from FOX NEWS of all places, claiming the "leader of OWS stayed at a 700$ a night hotel" but of course fox already pulled that story.

but it doesn't matter, the people that believe AJ and Rense don't even read the articles, they read the titles and make their assumptions based on that.

Alex is a very self centered and egotistical man, any of his movies will clearly show this. He credits himself with starting the 911 truth movement. He didn't. He credited himself with starting the original, pre-co-opt, tea party. He didn't. He credits himself with the popularity of Ron Paul, nothing to do with AJ sorry.

And since he can't take direct credit for OWS, he will continually muddy the waters, standing behind them on monday, while questioning their motives on tuesday.

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All arrows point to him actually having been a guest with the blessing of the elite painting him as the insane, blithering voice of conspiracy theorists worldwide.

Actually, you aren't alone. If you haven't watched that movie, go get it and watch it. there is a scene where he accosts some government official and gleefully reports that he was the one that released that video of the grove.

They guy says something along the lines of "you know exactly what you did" and something about how dishonest it was. There is another point, it could even be that same guy, where someone mentions how he was invited in.

I watched the video. There is no way he "snuck in" he was invited via a friend. there is no way he "snuck a camera" in either as plenty of people see them wandering around filming stuff.

This isn't to say the people there aren't sickos doing strange and sick things, they are, but AJ just sensationalized it to the point of absurdity.

Started out thinking Alex was doing good.
Then, after a friend who knows more about the inside workings than most called him out as a shill, I had to ponder.
Disinfo? Yes.
It almost seems like he wants us to stand up and get violent if we have to (referring to bits and pieces of his radio show)
It almost seems like this would help usher in the police state.

Also, this video. Now, why would Alex do this? Egotistical, yes, but comeon--

I say jealousy is why.
And if the mods do not agree, I will use this second line to say that I believe Scare em all Al to be a media schill.

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I'm sorry but I have to defend Alex Jones. I respect your opinion and all others, but Alex has been a spear in the fight against tyranny! He is a fearless news journalist and gives 100% on and off the air. He is constantly being attacked from all sides and yet he wakes up every morning and keeps pushing forward to wake one person up at a time...no matter what country they live in. I'm one of those individuals who was a skeptic about 9/11 (which my cousin died in Tower 2) and believed terrorists with box cutter hijacked planes, I believed there were WMDs in Iraq, etc...but Alex is one of the main reasons my mind and eyes opened up.

I don't believe he's anti-OWS...I believe he is cautious about who is actually behind it or trying to pry their way in (George Soros for example).

I believe he has done a stellar job in preparing his listeners for what has come and what is to come. He doesn't beileve the Nibiru, Elenin mumbo-jumbo...he is a straight shooter who has had amazing guests (Celente, Kaiser, Ventura, DC Madame (killed), etc.) and has exposed corrupt politicians and their plans to destroy the countries they're suppose to serve.

for Alex Jones!!

Originally posted by theovermensch
Alex Jones is used by TPTB like this,he reveals things that have already or will get out in a crazy,over the top way on a crazy radio show.The way he presents things makes everything sound crazy.Glen Beck does the same thing.Their job is to confuse things.They are both 'TPTB hubs' that make it alot harder to get to the real truth of things.

Or they are under pressure to find the next big story on schedule and if nothing interesting is happening or they dont get interesting guests willing to present years of research on their show, they make stuff up. How Beck is taken for anything but a satirist is beyond me. They are both showmen first. There has been valuable information presented on the show of Alex Jones show, but he wasnt the source, merely the host. What exactly is his gripe with the ows movement?

or... He was on point when this started and said "protest the federal reserve" NOT WALLSTREET.... Made WAY more sense to me and I would have been on board.... the Fed is the problem... not the people that make money... sorry for ruining the class warfare here... but seriously

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Very true. That scene with the elite guy was creepy for all the wrong reasons. Looked staged with bad acting on Jones' side.

Originally posted by DrNotforhire
or... He was on point when this started and said "protest the federal reserve" NOT WALLSTREET.... Made WAY more sense to me and I would have been on board.... the Fed is the problem... not the people that make money... sorry for ruining the class warfare here... but seriously

yep thats exactly right hes directing the complaining at something that actually matters

How does anyone figure AJ "does not like Occupy" when he has attended Occupy events and actually encourages people to join Occupy? If anything he is guilty of attempting to get them to Protest the Federal Reserve instead.