Time is Infinite. So if time is infinite...

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Why?

If we discover physical evidence of infinite parallel dimensions, then we'd have some rethinking to do...

There are examples of infinity in nature.

Black Holes
Bacteria
Seasons
Life/Death Cycle
Clouds, Snowflakes or any other chaotic pattern
A mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror etc...

I'm sure there are many more examples, it's not unreasonable to think in terms of infinity.

There was a recent discovery that Galaxies recycle their gas to keep creating stars. There could be more evidence out there to indicate a never ending Universe.

So what does that mean? If you are able to discover the source of infinity you might be looking at God Himself.

There was a second neutrino experiment that again proved faster than light travel. There could be so much more that we might not be able to detect as a species. We may one day discover that time is infinite and there is physical proof of this. That would mean we would have to re-adapt our thinking to this new discovery/enlightenment. It would be like finding out the World is not flat. We went from 2D thinking to 3D, maybe we will go to 4D thinking.

It's all about how you observe the Universe.

So you ask yourself where did all this matter come from if time is infinite? Right now we haven't discovered if time is infinite, so asking yourself these questions you won't be able to find the answers.

If there are infinite possibilities of time there could be possibilities of time without matter or a completely different system than what exists in our Universe. Infinite possibilities.

As I mentioned before then if time is infinite, then one exact moment goes off in a direction we cannot see, aka the 4th dimension. So as I'm typing this ironically at 2:30 in the afternoon, then potentially existing in different dimensions are infinite possibilities of 2:30 in the afternoon.

Maybe what that implies (thinking outside the box) we live in a physical consciousness...but we have yet to discover these things...

Originally posted by Lionhearte

Originally posted by knightsofcydonia
Time is nothing but a measure of the changing positions of objects in space, and as any scientist, mystic, or lunatic knows that in the beginning there were no objects in space.

Really now?

What were you doing a week ago? a day ago? an hour ago?

All of that lies in the past..

It's in the past, because time moved on.

okay, what determines how long a week lasts? a day? an hour?

A: Objects in space. Therefore they are your reference point to the conception of "time"

The path around a circle is infinite.

Yet this doesn't mean that the circle itself is unbounded.

Time is a thing, a physical dimensional scale against which we measure what we perceive.

It can be bent in loops by gravitational mass, perhaps by many other things too.

The world is not defined by Euclidian geomerty. The sum of the angles of a triangle can (and do) add up to both more and less than 180 degrees.

They only add up to 180 degrees in a plane.

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by soldita

 

Watch this video. Time should be finite since it has a beginning. Infinity is infinite, but time is a construct from infinity, so it is finite. Since there are finite things in time, time is also finite, but only in relation to the infinite. I think this video explains it well.

That video is BS!

God/Source is the Source of Time and Time has existed Infinitely as God/Source has.

kNot even God can exist without Time so both have existed forever.

Ribbit

God is not the source of time, He is the Creator of time. Infinity is not endless time, it is the absence of time.

it means there is only changeeeeee nothing else. all there is is energy being transferred from one state to another forever and ever. we perceive time as humans because our brains developed the ability but really its all just a bunch of arbitrary crap just like everything else we try to measure or name.

think fractal

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Just like black is not a color but the absence of color. Well, taking note that light was recently created in a vaccuum, is it safe to rely on absolutisms as our previous statements?

The beginning of time is the big bang. There's no "before the big bang". It's a limit and an origin, like 0 is in math.

Now if the big bang is 0, then the end of time is infinity. In this way there can be both a beginning and an end without the system having to be finite. Typically that which has a beginning has an end, but in this case we can make an exception because we're not dealing with finite numbers.



If our origin is 0 we can't perceive infinity and vice versa. One's end of time is another's beginning of time.

Until anyone can show any logic as to what exists that can enforce limits on the whole of either space or time, they must both be assumed as infinite existences. Matter or energy are 100% subserviant to the characteristics offered by both, so it is nothing composed of matter or energy. Gravity is still a mystery but supposed to be a spacetime warp but it exists as a locallized effect.

My beleief that space is time that is not spherically kinetic, from everywhere, toward everywhere. Likewise time is space that is existence as absolute kinetic. The two exchange characteristics around and about the infinite impedence. Infinite Ohms law where space is voltage, time is current, infinite impedence is the resistence causing the transitions.

Everything has a beginning, however, the beginning of the beginning was neither the end or the meantime...

reply to post by soldita


Or perhaps Time doesn't exist at all.

Plato:Zeno's Arrow

If you think about it, only this very moment is real. Everything from a moment ago and on back is only imaginary. It only exists in your head, or in books or pictures, it is no longer real. Everything from the next moment on is also imaginary. You may think that 2 seconds from now you will take a drink of your soda, but any number of things from a heart attack to a comet to the cat jumping on the table could change that future you imagine.

Time is not a "dimension" as people like to describe it. Time is only a collection of moments. In no way is it infinite, it is only a single instant.

I sincerely thank everyone for replying.

To those saying time doesnt exist rather it's rather a series of nows. I would say we are simply disagreeing on semantics. But I would offer that because your theory of series of nows continues on indefinently into the future (when viewed from an impartial obverser) that infinite time is a more practical term.

Secondly, I know matter is essentially created from energy and we have just (maybe) seen photons (energy) appear randomly in a vacuum. Just crazy to think about random appearances of energy and its connection to it all.

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I like your view. Existance might well be a looping .gif animation with unlimited possibilities between frames. Very interesting concept.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
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Time is not a "dimension" as people like to describe it. Time is only a collection of moments. In no way is it infinite, it is only a single instant.

That sounds to me alot like a dimension, a dimension being an ordered collection positions, collapsable to a single "instant" of (co)ordinality.

Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by followtheevidence

 

Just like black is not a color but the absence of color. Well, taking note that light was recently created in a vaccuum, is it safe to rely on absolutisms as our previous statements?

Without absolutisms there is no legitimate starting place for the proof process - we're left with an infinitely regressive series of improvable premises.

Conversely, absolutisms can't exist without faith.

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There are not lots of nows. And energy appearing in a vacumn is what you condsider matter. That vacumn is now and the appearing and disappearing energy is what you see. Now is like a movie screen and the energy appearing and disappearing is like the pixels on the screen. The screen never moves, now never moves, you are stuck to now so you never move but the images keep changing.

The belief in time is what separates you from God. You can never really be separate from God or from anything, yet the belief in time makes you 'think' and that 'thinking' is time.
Thinking there is another now somewhere makes you think that there is another you somewhere that needs protecting.
When you realize there is only this now you will see that you don't need to worry about that you in the past or future. There is only now to worry about.
What's wrong with right now unless you think about it?

God is the truth and the truth shall set you free.
The truth is there is only this now and now is God.

Originally posted by The1Prettiest1One

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by soldita

 

Time is not a "dimension" as people like to describe it. Time is only a collection of moments. In no way is it infinite, it is only a single instant.

That sounds to me alot like a dimension, a dimension being an ordered collection positions, collapsable to a single "instant" of (co)ordinality.

Actually I guess you are correct if you imagine time as a collection of instants just like a plane is a collection of points. If that is the Case, time wouldn't be the "4th Dimension" it would be the first. You can only move from 1 point to the next in one direction on the plane of time. You can't move backwards or laterally like you can on a typical line, or plane. So, maybe, if we think of time as 1 dimensional space and then we think of our physical world as 2d, 3d, and 4d, maybe it causes some interesting thoughts?

Of perhaps with what mathematics has proven are 11 or so existing planes, maybe they all happen to intersect perpendicularly in a pattern that forms a 1D line that travels in a single direction only? If that were true, then it means we could logically find the beginning and end of that intersection. We could know the exact moment of creation and the moment it all ends, and we could possibly even use it to predict future events mathematically. TimeWave Zero possibly?

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Then again how can we have a conclusive start if we're looking at fractals, the holographic theory or even quantum physics with its infinite possibilities? I guess it drowns down to faith in one's perspective?

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by soldita

 

Or perhaps Time doesn't exist at all.

Plato:Zeno's Arrow

If you think about it, only this very moment is real. Everything from a moment ago and on back is only imaginary. It only exists in your head, or in books or pictures, it is no longer real. Everything from the next moment on is also imaginary. You may think that 2 seconds from now you will take a drink of your soda, but any number of things from a heart attack to a comet to the cat jumping on the table could change that future you imagine.

Time is not a "dimension" as people like to describe it. Time is only a collection of moments. In no way is it infinite, it is only a single instant.

The "Present" is infinitesimal in duration which is displayed as infinite space. Infinite space spherically implodes as it converts away from pure potential (Space, voltage) into its default state of absolute kinetic (Time, current). We observe a narrow bandwidth of existence just after the string of instances occurring at Planck rate we call "the present" and before it completes the conversion process back into pure time, as all the past. Our brains cannot see the present because there is no "time" component in its characteristics. Our brains cannot see the past because there is no "space" component in its characteristics. The Universe exists as a parasitic offshoot while infinite space is converting back into infinite time.

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
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What yew don't take into consideration is God/Source is ALL Time and ALL Space, so if God/Source is ALL Space & Time, then Space & Time have both always been and will always be, since they are also Infinite as God/Source is.

As to matter, it is finite at any given finite moment, but it's going to Infinite, since matter is being created ALL the Time.

Ribbit

Time is an aspect of infinity. True. A division of infinity is finite.

Think it over. You will notice the truth in the last statement.

A created thing cannot exceed its own capacity. Does time have capacity? Is it divisible and measurable?

Does infinity have a capacity? Is it divisible and measurable from point A to B? Only the thing divided has capacity. We are all a division of God with a beginning and end. We are not infinite. The spirit within is infinite because it originates from the source of infinity. To eternally live is to experience birth, development and rebirth. Death does not exist. God separates the darkness from the light. We live our lives choosing where we belong in His kingdom. Light stays and darkness is divided.

You said:

"A created thing cannot exceed its own capacity."

To exceed capacity is to grow and with growth comes increased capacity, so Zeno's Paradoxes comes into play and a created thing does kNot exceed its capacity because its capacity grows with it.

Both Time & Space are the physical aspects of God/Source, it's the Consciousness of God/Source you cannot see. Although technically you cannot see Time or Space but you can with your 3rd eYe.

Ribbit