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Originally posted by hazel622
Ron is not perfect, therefore his ideas are not perfect, still, the best offer so far.
The conservative group Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) announced Saturday that Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) would be expelled from the group's National Advisory Board because of his "delusional and disturbing alliance with the fringe Anti-War movement."
"It is a sad day in American history when a one-time conservative-libertarian stalwart has fallen more out of touch with America’s needs for national security than the current feeble and appeasing administration," YAF’s Senior National Director Jordan Marks said in a statement.
"Rep. Paul's refusal to support our nation's military and national security interests border on treason, aside from his failure to uphold his oath to the United States Constitution and defend our country and citizens against all enemies, foreign and domestic," Marks continued.
Originally posted by Doomzilla
I know you don't agree with this but a man is a man 1st ,Not a mason . Your and my duty as a man a fellow human , is to inform people if we suspect they could be in danger .
NOT duty to masons or whatever society # that humanity comes 1st not # oaths and secrets... !
Originally posted by Doomzilla
So is he a mason ? if yes do masons have knowledge the general public don't ?
I cannot answer these questions. Maybe you or other current masons can
Originally posted by Doomzilla
"It is a sad day in American history when a one-time conservative-libertarian stalwart has fallen more out of touch with America’s needs for national security than the current feeble and appeasing administration
Your criticising him for being anti war ?
I criticise you for being pro war then !
thanks for compiling all this info; I'm going to have to really peruse it carefully when I have time; I have often wondered if R. Paul were merely 'controlled opposition', designed to be marginalized enough to not affect real change, but popularized enough to give truthers, patriots, and libertarians a false hope; at first glance, some of your evidence seems to point to that probability..
Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
RP speaks pallatives about constitutional rights et al but being schooled in austrian economics he advocated ending the fed and returning to some kind of modified gold standard. While in the long run it is inevitable, if elected RP would likely take draconian measures to get it over with now.....before any attempts at reform can be made to at least buy us some time to make meaningful changes. RP would probably end the fed (bankrupting it and us defacto with it), then officially declare national bankruptcy and after a dollar collapse (accelerated by removing its 'world reserve status') lead us into a one world government. Maybe he means well and would preserve some individual liberties and national sovereignty but I dont think that is "their" plan...."They" the ubiquotous they.....
Third, I would like to remind you of your oath once again
and it's implications. An oath cannot be rescinded even
if you leave the fraternity for any reason.
and
Sixth, no Masonic Organization that I am aware of allows
an 18 yr old to be initiated, passed or even raised. As it
is passed down by by-laws that the age requirement is 21
for a petition. Which also throws doubt onto your legitimacy.
so mote it be
Past Master
It is an Obligation to your fellow brothers.
It is an OATH to GOD.
And you seem to select only certain portions
of your Obligation/Oath to adhere to.
It's not JUST any secrets of Masonry,
it is "any secrets of Masonry that have been,
may be now or at any future time be
communicated to me or in any way
come to my knowledge". Secrets
being labeled as ANYTHING
shared amongst the brethren.
And yes, I was 32Deg Scottish Rite.
While I do agree with the need to share
info to save lives, I do not know if I could
break an Oath/Obligation to do so.
This is the moral fiber which distinguishes
a Master Mason from the fellow craft.
I'm sure this thread will be under close scrutiny
in coming days.
Originally posted by Doomzilla
Are there any politicians you'd recommend voting for ?
Originally posted by kroms33
So for you to be targeting one of your "brothers" draws out the skepticism in me. I am skeptical of your motives. I would say that you are being deceptive about Ron Paul - unless you have had a change of heart (which is again doubtful because of your recent posts to another thread)?
Did my previous postings about discord strike a nerve? Or are you targeting Paul for some other purpose?
Please, feel free to express yourself - and explain why a current "Past Master Mason" would be targeting "one of his own brothers" ?
*sniffs the air*
I love the smell of disinformation in the morning
Originally posted by boondock-saint
Originally posted by Doomzilla
Are there any politicians you'd recommend voting for ?
No
no politicians
They cannot get to where they are
without being tainted in some way.
But I would recommend someone
who is not a Mason and has never
served in politics before. This type
individual has not been around long
enough to be tainted by the system.
But good luck, getting somebody like
that elected.
See your words contradict your Actions .
You said you only left the masons because of fees
and now your telling me I shouldn't vote for any masons ?
you need to clarify your position because your speaking double talk right now .
Are the masons influenceing the political system or not ?
Are they just good men like Everyone tells me ?BUT who Threaten other masons as Kroms has shown you to do . ?