Feds tell court they can decide what you eat

Attorneys for the federal government have argued in a lawsuit pending in federal court in Iowa that individuals have no "fundamental right" to obtain what food they choose.

The brief was filed April 26 in support of a motion to dismiss a lawsuit filed by the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund over the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's ban on the interstate sale of raw milk.

"There is no 'deeply rooted' historical tradition of unfettered access to foods of all kinds," states the document signed by U.S. Attorney Stephanie Rose, assistant Martha Fagg and Roger Gural, trial attorney for the U.S. Department of Justice.

"Plaintiffs' assertion of a 'fundamental right to their own bodily and physical health, which includes what foods they do and do not choose to consume for themselves and their families' is similarly unavailing because plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish," the government has argued.

WND has reported several times on fed crackdowns on producers of raw milk for friends and neighbors, including the recent case when agents arrived to inspect a private property belonging to Dan Allgyer in Pennsylvania at 5 a.m.

The incident was followed by a report a few days later that documented a proposal pending in Congress that critics say would do for the nation's food supply what the new health-care reform law has done for health-care resources.
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www.wnd.com...

Here you have more Socialism for ya where the Feds are claiming Americans don't have the right to choose the food their eat.

The new bill "S. 510, the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2010", which is sponsored by U.S. Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., explains "is a critical step toward equipping the FDA with the authorities and funding it needs to regulate what is now a global marketplace for food, drugs, devices and cosmetics."

Three hurrahs for Socialism.... What say ye?....

That's a complete mess of a decision, how can people not have access (in a free market economy) to food of their choice? What will this mean when actually in practice? That the FDA can outlaw certain food products - make other mandatory?

While I agree this is very, very newsworthy, I don't see how it equates socialism? It sounds closer to fascism.

Isn't there a rule to NOT POST WND STORIES HERE!

Do a simple search on their past hoaxes, embellishing, and outright lying.

They are like the Onion, with outrageous stories, but don't admit it's fake.

Please delete that bookmark if you have it bookmarked! lol

reply to post by breakingdradles


Well perhaps you should be checking your own sources because...

Letters To Leaders


All messages are published with permission of the sender. The general topic of this message is Agriculture/Food:


Subject:
Reject S.510

To:
President Barack Obama
Rep. John Tanner
Sen. Lamar Alexander
Sen. Bob Corker

May 14, 2010

In a briefing filed April 26 in support of a motion to dismiss a lawsuit filed by the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund over the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's ban on the interstate sale of raw milk in Iowa. Attorneys for the federal government have argued in a lawsuit pending in federal court in Iowa (The Iowa case alleges the federal restrictions on raw milk are a violation of the U.S. Constitution) that individuals have no "fundamental right" to obtain what food they choose. "Plaintiffs' assertion of a 'fundamental right to their own bodily and physical health, which includes what foods they do and do not choose to consume for themselves and their families' is similarly unavailing because plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish," the government has argued. (You are only allowed to eat or drink what the FDA gives you permission to. There is no inherent right or God-given right to consume any foods from nature without the FDAs consent.)
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www.congress.org...

Oooops....

[edit on 18-5-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


You should have just started with the congress.org source instead of using a very questionable one. Also, I'm not sure how this equates to socialism.

Regardless, for the government to tell us we have no 'fundamenta right' to eat what we want just gets me seething So much so, that I really don't have a rational thought regarding this at the moment so I will have to come back after I calm down a bit.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

(You are only allowed to eat or drink what the FDA gives you permission to. There is no inherent right or God-given right to consume any foods from nature without the FDAs consent.)
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I can't believe this is actually a real statement.
What's even more hilarious is the fact that those in power actually believe that the FDA can say what the people can or can't consume.

This might make me more mad to find out the FED's attorneys say this, than the bank bailouts and everything else combined.
I seriously can't believe this.

Wow. What a [facepalm].

[Edited for clarity]

[edit on 18-5-2010 by havok]

So many freaking problems in this country and they decide to work on obesity. I swear to god that the federal government are the dumbest people in our society. I am sure that Pelosi will firmly stand behind this, as she does with all fascism.

Yes this a true story of tyranny, being discussed here.

Please join.

Pax

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I really want to spread this story to other sources other than ATS, but unfortunately, the sheeple of this nation (including many of my close friends and relatives) will undoubtedly just call me a "tin foil hat wearer" and dismiss this story. HOW DARE the Feds tell us we don't have a right to eat what the FDA doesn't approve. Are they going to come knocking on my door if I decide tomorrow that I'm going to buy a few acres of land, a few cows, and seeds to plant my own food? Well, if they do, they'll be met with Mister .45, because this is absolutely ridiculous. How many rights are going to be taken away before people take their heads out of their asses and see what is going on around them!? Would they just rather go over the cliff with the rest of the lemmings? Well, I have given up on most of them. Screw 'em. If they want to follow this path, I'll let them, because obviously they don't have enough brains to realize that the FED is taking away rights that we have for simply being human. I will continue to grow my own food, drink un-homogenized milk (it never hurt my grandparents) and screw the FDA and the FED if they don't like it.


Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

Of course the government wants to oversee what foods we're allowed to eat! Of course they want to deter us from raw foods and foods that haven't been loaded with preservatives, aspartame, and any number of other artificial substances!

How the hell else can they successfully put crap in our food that numbs our brain, slowly kills us, or serves some other experimental purpose for them if it's not food that's processed in a plant??!!

And we all know how trustworthy the wretched FDA is! There's no better agency to handle the oversight of our food, right?!

I agree with a member who posted earlier. I need to step away from this one for a while before I throw my computer through the window.

reply to post by ventian

So many freaking problems in this country and they decide to work on obesity.

Oh this is about controlling something, all right . . . but I'm quite sure it has nothing to do with obesity. They hope we're so blind as to believe that nonsense, though.

I am just waiting for someone to post that the government is doing the right thing here.

I know darn well there will be at least one, and the thought sickens me.



[edit on 18-5-2010 by butcherguy]

If this is ultimately about obesity, then it probably relates to the military's worry that there are too many overweight recruits. They need a healthy pool of draft age to fill the ranks for the never ending war against terror. This subject got me wondering, but it seems to me that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness necessarily includes eating what ever foods you choose.

reply to post by breakingdradles


I have been following this issue, is two bills in congress right now, one to control what foods you eat, produce and sell as personal individuals including farm animals no mass produced

Another one to control what private ownership of lands that holds areas of water to also control the water supplies in the nation.

Be very afraid, because something is not right with all this control.

One day...you'll find yourself in an inconspicuous car..maybe a sedan cruising around the block. Starting and hesitantly stopping...slowly, you look around...pull up to the curb.

You roll your window down, and softly call out to me..Hey man, you got the stuff?

You got the money?...I reply.

Yeah... 100 right?

Let me see it, no pay...no play.

Here man...here it is.

I look in the bag, finger each worn bill....Yup, 100 dollars. Here ya go.

I toss a greasy bag into your car and turn the corner...gone.

You open the bag, smell the aroma, and trembling...take out a warm big ol' homemade cheeseburger. Grilled no less, with onions, bacon, and pickles with mayo and mustard....just like ya like. Wow...damn, he's cool. Threw in some homemade fries too.

Suddenly, sirens blare...unmarked Dodges roll up...Freeze, a-hole. your under arrest.

reply to post by AlreadyGone


AlreadyGone, that was excellent! You could write a SciFi screenplay, except that it is quickly becoming fact, rather than fiction. Bravo on your post.

Originally posted by jokei

While I agree this is very, very newsworthy, I don't see how it equates socialism? It sounds closer to fascism.

I think you're completely correct in your assumption. Too many people are led to believe what is currently happening in America is socialism. When you have corporations telling the government how to make policies that equates to Fascism. Thanks for bringing this to light.

This is not socialism. Its deregulated markets, in this instance big pharma, western medicine, and big agro, using their accumulated mass of wealth to destabilize democracy and destroy any small businesses chance of encroaching upon their profits. This is the peril of unfettered capitalism, ie: those with capital make the rules, and the rules say you must ONLY use THIER products.

Tyranny pure and simple. There it is folks in black and white "you do not have a fundamental right to choose what you eat" right from thier own mouth! Only one way to deal with Tyrants!

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


What does a letter to a Senator prove?

That someone wrote a letter to Bob Corker?

Why not link to the original article?

www.naturalnews.com...

Now I admit, without reading the whole bill (come on, who here has actually read and interpreted the entire bill?) it does sound pretty heavy handed.

But the fear mongering is just as heavy handed

Can you imagine a SWAT team of FDA agents showing up at your door because you grew organic broccoli and sold some at the weekend farmer's market without fumigating it with poisons first? That's what's coming to your home town, everywhere across America.

wtf??