The Sky Was Black On The Moon?

reply to post by Deaf Alien


because they were inside a studio filming the moon landing on earth. no man has set foot on the moon. how did they get out of the moon lander when they cant even fit in the door

Apparently they did take some photos of stars etc. with the Far Ultraviolet Camera/Spectrograph on Apollo 16.

Here's a 3rd party site that purports to hold them
www3.telus.net...

For some reason I can't find any of these pics on NASA sites.

Here's a photo of the camera that supposedly took the photos ... it's so shiny.

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edit source : AS16-114-18439 history.nasa.gov...

[edit on 19-6-2010 by ppk55]

Originally posted by MR BOB
Light wont become visable unless it has something to bounce off/pass through right?

There is no atmosphere on the moon, the starlight comes to the moon but does not pass through anything making the stars appear as though they are not there.

We can see stars from earth because of our atmosphere.

Only if you are trying to see a BEAM of starlight as is familiar with a laser or sun beam. There is no need for atmosphere to see the source of the light.

Originally posted by ppk55
Apparently they did take some photos of stars etc. with the Far Ultraviolet Camera/Spectrograph on Apollo 16.
Here's a 3rd party site that purports to hold them
www3.telus.net...

And NASA purports to have taken them, and you purport to be PPK55. What's your point?

For some reason I can't find any of these pics on NASA sites.

That's because NASA probably just offers the data sets only. As it does for a LOT of non-visible-spectrum data/imagery and other scientific data sets. Anyone can request that data. Indeed, if you had done a PROPER search, you would have found this right at the top of your Google results:
www.lpi.usra.edu...
Click on Experimental Results, and the full description of what is available appears, along with an email link to request the data. It's not that difficult.

Here's a photo of the camera that supposedly took the photos ... it's so shiny.

Again, what is your point? Should it have been painted matt black to make you happy? Or are you simply proving (again) that you don't understand how much light is thrown upwards into shaded areas by the surrounding lunar surface? See all that bright stuff in the foreground? Why do you think it looks bright - what is it doing - reflecting light up, perhaps?

Just because it was a black-looking sky, doesn't mean it was nighttime, dear... things work a little differently on the Moon. People with photography experience understand that light reflects off the ground.

Given that you can SEE it doing that, I would have thought that even *you* might be able to grasp that concept. But no....


[edit on 19-6-2010 by CHRLZ]

reply to post by Deaf Alien


Why do we have a telescope in orbit.
That is also closer to outer space and the sun.
The human eye is much like a camera with a long exposure that
is needed to capture stars even in a telescope camera.
Not seeing stars on the Moon does not make sense.
Not being on the Moon makes sense.

Easiest way to explain this is if you have a local stadium that plays at night. Next time your there with the stadium lights on look up. You wont see any stars. The reason is your eyes adjust to light levels the same as a camera does. Its done to protect your eyes. Theres another simpler experiment you can do at home go into a bright room turn off the lights see how long it takes your eyes to adjust before you can get your night vision. When there is any bright light your iris contracts to prevent to much light from entering your eye. If the light is dim you wont see it at all. ever try to read your radio in your car when sun is really bright the radio is to dim to see but at night you can see inside the car with that same light. Hope that helps you understand if not i can try another way.

I can see this lack of stars phenomena happening given the Astronauts were viewing behind their helmets screen which does obscure view slightly.
Also the Moon seems very bright like a White sand beach with the Sun blaring down.
Of note that because there is no blue sky of the atmosphere the black would be everywhere the surface is not.
The intense light of the ground obscures minimal distant star light imo.
Completely plausible imo.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by Deaf Alien

 

Why do we have a telescope in orbit.
That is also closer to outer space and the sun.
The human eye is much like a camera with a long exposure that
is needed to capture stars even in a telescope camera.
Not seeing stars on the Moon does not make sense.
Not being on the Moon makes sense.

You never make any sense look up any astrophotography site and LEARN something about the subject.

Originally posted by DJW001

Although stars would not normally be visible to the naked eye during daylight, whether from the Earth, the Moon, or on orbit, the planet Venus (which is much brighter than any of the stars) was actually recorded on film by astronaut Alan Shepard at the conclusion of his second extravehicular activity, during the Apollo 14 mission. Shepard was preparing to ascend the ladder to re-enter the lunar module Antares, when he likely noticed Venus shining brightly next to the crescent Earth. He made a series of photographs with his chest-mounted Hasselblad camera, likely all at 1/250th second exposure, and differing f-stops. Owing to its position closer to the Sun and its complete coverage by clouds, Venus has a higher surface brightness than Earth, and is indeed visible to the unaided eye in broad daylight from Earth, given a sufficiently transparent sky. It would have been plainly visible to Shepard in the lunar sky, and easily recorded on film. For a complete explanation, consult the "Images" section of the Apollo 14 Lunar Surface Journal.[5]
In the Apollo 11 press conference, Neil Armstrong states that he was "never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the moon by eye" [6] Stars were visible with the naked eye only when they were in the shadow of the Moon. All of the landings were in daylight.[7]

en.wikipedia.org...

The astronauts did see stars.

Did they :?

en.metapedia.org...

Originally posted by ppk55
Here's an interesting bit I found from the Apollo 14 mission transcripts.
This is on the Descent orbit insertion.

>>03 15 19 30 LMP And, Houston, looking to the north, we see the
same view. It's a very sharply defined horizon. I can see the stars. I got a - a very soft gray, well-lit surface below without too many features.
You can't see sharply, just - not distinctly; but nothing's probably lost.>>

source www.jsc.nasa.gov... (page 286)

Whilst this is not taken on the moon, iit's interesting that he can see the 'well-lit surface' and still see the stars.

and the same apollo kook elaborates:

"We were orientated such and rotating in order to keep the thermal balance of the spacecraft so that every two minutes you could see the Earth, the moon, the sun and a 360-degree panorama of the heavens came through the window every two minutes. That's powerful stuff, particularly since it's space. Without the atmosphere to block, the stars don't twinkle, and there's 10 times as many as you could possibly see on Earth because of the lack of interference and it's much closer to what you could see through the Hubble Telescope these days, ..."
-- Edgar Mitchell

HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN "MOON RISING" I GOT A LOOK AT IT ON YOUTUBE I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING.....

reply to post by thesoundofbass



Jose Escamilla has no idea what he is talking about in that movie.

NONE!


He needs to visit earth and come back to reality.

Just my 0.02

Why you guys still on earth ?
I view earthrise few times already, here some vid shots I took there. Enjoy the porn!

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[edit on 16-8-2010 by GAOTU789]

For those of you who think that stars should easily be seen from the lunar surface in daylight, I have a simple, straight-forward question:

How much brighter would stars be on the lunar surface than on the Earth's surface?

I don't need an exact number; a ballpark guess will do.

Twice as bright?
Ten times as bright?
Fifty times?
A hundred times?

Give me a rough number, please.

Originally posted by Saint Exupery
For those of you who think that stars should easily be seen from the lunar surface in daylight, I have a simple, straight-forward question:

How much brighter would stars be on the lunar surface than on the Earth's surface?

I don't need an exact number; a ballpark guess will do.

Twice as bright?
Ten times as bright?
Fifty times?
A hundred times?

Give me a rough number, please.

How old are you?

If the answer www.youtube.com... from the astronot-actor Armstrong did not satisfy you,
maybe you can ask your school teacher?

Let us know the results so we can compare them with NASA educational outreach programs.

There was also a story of a strange girl and her brother found in a cave, they claimed they came from a place were everything was very dark, and they were told they were leaving to come here to the light.

Earthglow would block out the stars with it's light pollution.

Earth glow is nothing compared to sunshine. They were there during daytime. Do you see stars on earth during daytime?

Originally posted by PsykoOps
Earth glow is nothing compared to sunshine. They were there during daytime. Do you see stars on earth during daytime?

Are you Mr. Armstrong or Mr. Bean?
Have you been to the moon recently?

[edit on 17.8.2010 by bokonon2010]