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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by sos37
Why are you still confounded by the actions of Middle Easterners who carry out these actions? We've seen time and again that they are steadfastly dedicated to religion and traditions and are ready to both die and sacrifice their families for such.
What, did you think TERRORISTS would eventually drop their hostility of the U.S. and make us pals? What the hell do you think we're fighting for in Afghanistan?
First off.. not all middle easterners are terrorists.... that's just infantile thinking...
Originally posted by centurion1211
This is TOTALLY due to (the muslim) religion.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Exactly how do you equate someone being used as a sex symbol - as in advertising - with the justified killing of women just because they don't do what you say?
Originally posted by centurion1211
This is just about the worst attempt to gloss over muslim gros human rights abuses I've ever seen.
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
And besides... if you didn't want your children to become westernized... WHY DID YOU MOVE HERE TO BEGIN WITH?????
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by centurion1211
in many muslim countries it is perfectly OK to kill a child or wife that is not behaving the way the "man of the house" believes they should.
Since there are "many" countries like that, it won't be too hard for you to list those where it's legal, or at least accepted by a vast majority of population. I'm all ears.
No other civilized religion or country shares this belief - at least that I'm aware of.
Maybe. However, here in the States it's not unheard of that parents decline medical care for their dying child because they prefer to rely on God's prayer as the ultimate cure. IMHO it's equally barbaric.
Originally posted by centurion1211
in many muslim countries it is perfectly OK to kill a child or wife that is not behaving the way the "man of the house" believes they should.
Where? Anywhere there is a muslim theocracy practicing sharia law.
However, here in the States it's not unheard of that parents decline medical care for their dying child because they prefer to rely on God's prayer as the ultimate cure. IMHO it's equally barbaric.
Declining care for someone hardly compares. First, declining care would take place over time, which would give others the opportunity to step in and do something about it. Running over your child because of "traditions" takes only seconds.
Desperately grasping at straws here??? It's not going to work this time as this guy has been caught dead to rights admitting he did this based on his (muslim) "traditions".
Originally posted by sos37
Why are you still confounded by the actions of Middle Easterners who carry out these actions?
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by centurion1211
This is TOTALLY due to (the muslim) religion.
whether is muslim religion or over-conservatism it's not the point
it might be different to different people
you don't live in a muslim country
just reading CNN articles about muslims doesn't cut it i'm sorry
Sorry, but it is exactly the point of the OP - as much as you'd like to try and squirm out of it. And now you don't like CNN either, just because they reported something not pleasant about a muslim. Wait until CAIR gets a hold of CNN!
Originally posted by centurion1211
Exactly how do you equate someone being used as a sex symbol - as in advertising - with the justified killing of women just because they don't do what you say?
Originally posted by centurion1211
You have a very limited understanding of the topics you oh so love to debate about
Can't come up with an answer, so we attempt to insult the questioner. How many time have we seen this from the left?
This is just about the worst attempt to gloss over muslim gross human rights abuses I've ever seen.
Obviously you hate the muslim community as a whole
this makes every point you make biased and therefore void
No, obviously you are so biased in favor of the radical muslims and willing to appease that you repeatedly fail to notice that I clearly say "only the radical" and "not all" when referring to muslims.
all abrahamic religions are the same
islam = christianity = judaism
A truism that has been proven false over and over again. They are only similar in the origins.
btw, christianity has caused way more harm throughout history than islam
I am a hindu in case you were wondering
Only your opinion and thus hardly a "fact". Christianity had its violent past, but even a quick look at the worlds recent and current conflicts will show that almost all involve muslims in one way or another. And so what in regards to what religion you are. It is your belief in appeasement that is the problem. Is it because you are terrified of radical (not all) muslims yourself and think that appeasing them increases your own survival chances?
Originally posted by sos37
reply to post by HunkaHunka
So what? That doesn't make your father and this guy anything alike. They're both equally messed up in some way in a basic, humanitarian level to want to inflict pain on their own children.
But what drove your father? Control issues? Alcoholism? Abuse when he was a child?
What drove this guy? He says traditions. The story doesn't say that they are Muslim or that this was an attempt to exact an honor killing, but if it is then it's an issue of being driven by one's religion.
According to the Quran, apostacy (leaving the Muslim faith) is the highest of all offenses, punishable by death. Did this guy feel compelled to kill by his God due to his faith??? That line of thinking DOES EXIST! Pretending it isn't there doesn't make it go away!
Originally posted by grimreaper797
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
And besides... if you didn't want your children to become westernized... WHY DID YOU MOVE HERE TO BEGIN WITH?????
My god...I finally agree with something you say. Mark the calender.
Seriously, why would you move here if you hate western society so much? Hypocrite is the word I'm looking for. Maybe we should talk to the Muslim extremist in his own language. Surround yourself with infidels, and your family will become infidels, ITS YOUR OWN FAULT! Maybe then he will go back where he belongs, the stone age.
Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by buddhasystem
Again, the guy admitted doing it and his reasons (traditions).
Everything else you and modern academia (?) are posting is nothing more than a CAIR-type tactic to deflect and defend.
Or better yet, try it on someone else somewhere else.
What, did you think TERRORISTS would eventually drop their hostility of the U.S. and make us pals? What the hell do you think we're fighting for in Afghanistan?