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Where do you go while your alive?
Anyway, good threads of late Republican08.
Originally posted by Republican08
After-Life
ATHEISM- if thought of as a religion.
Heaven- There is none.
Hell- There is none.
The atheist tends to believe that, heaven and hell may be just metaphorical states of life, that heaven is an orgasm, a 20 dollar bill found on the ground, a feeling you get after helping an old woman cross the street.
They may also believe that hell, is when you break a bone, when you are tortured, when said painful, or believed evil things happen to a being.
I don't believe in any form of diety or god - I am therefore labeled an Atheist. I can't understand why it is even included on your list. Atheism is not religion.
I find it remarkable that so many people are afraid of death and that there could possibly be 'nothing' after it. I don't think about that at all. Why? Because I focus my energies of being a good person now and being a productive, caring member of the community...not because I want to score brownie points to get into some 'better' place later on. I know I am a good person and will be here on earth for a limited time...when I am dead, that's it...and that's fine.
So much time and energy is wasted on religion and the rituals that go a long with it. Why can't people use the time they spend confessing/going to church/praying/worrying about getting to heaven to help others, look after their families, caring for those less fortunate then themselves or for the environment. What a different place the world would be.
Christian beliefs about the afterlife vary between denominations and individual Christians, but the vast majority of Christians believe in some kind of heaven, in which believers enjoy the presence of God and other believers and freedom from suffering and sin.
Views differ as to whether those of other faiths or none at all will be in heaven, and conceptions of what heaven will be like differ as well.
A slightly lesser majority of Christians believe in the existence of hell, where unbelievers or sinners are punished. Views differ as to whether hell is eternal and whether its punishment is spiritual or physical. Some Christians reject the notion altogether.
Catholic Christians also believe in purgatory, a temporary place of punishment for Christians who have died with unconfessed sins.
For more specific Christian views about the afterlife, following are doctrinal statements from several different Christian denominations and organizations on the afterlife. Click on the linked title for the source of the quote.
(1) Everyone will exist eternally either in heaven or hell (Daniel 12:2,3; Matthew 25:46; John 5:28; Revelation 20:14,15).
(2) Everyone has only one life in which to determine their destiny (Hebrews 9:27).
(3) Heaven or hell is determined by whether a person believes (puts their trust) in Christ alone to save them (John 3:16, 36, etc.).
Originally posted by Skyfloating
In my particular variation of spirituality, nobody was ever born to begin with. Birth and Death are Illusions. The body is merely like a pair of glasses Infinity temporarily puts on in order to focus on a specific aspect of Infinity. Then, when it stops focussing on that tiny aspect, it takes off the glasses. "Death" is not anymore significant than taking off a pair of focus-lenses.
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Religious concepts of "eternal" as in "eternal damnation" are misinterpretations of a realm without linear-time.
Originally posted by Republican08
I would say a Buddhism enlightened view of hinduism no?
Originally posted by scubagravy
reply to post by Republican08
Hmm Rep,
Well after saying i have great deal of respect for you in my last post, do you honestly think i meant you disrespect, or are you too caught up in your neck of the woods,?? do you drink?? i ask that because even a simpleton could have comprehended what i just wrote, but to the average or constant drinker i can understand why that may have been a lil mis-skewed on your understanding. Ive never thought you were an arse, tho, with your wiff-waff replies, i shall give it time. .
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Is this how you treat a contributing member that is not ready to go forth in sharing their knowledge??.
Bear with me, i have aninteresting story to share. Not shy....maybe a little hesitant. Good thread none the less.
Originally posted by scubagravy
reply to post by Republican08
Well,good to show your weak minded. Although ive agreed on your stance many times i will not change my view.But to be labelled a Foe after this, i can only think that youmay be going through some hard times yourself.
I do not deserve the Foe label Republican08, please, foe is a little harsh. Ive followed and S&f yr threads in total agreement. This seems unfair.
Take care fellow A.T.S r.
BTW, i wrote youa great reply moments before, but magically when i pressed reply, it simply went back to the thread instead of replying to you...damn.