Israeli Jets scramble to escort Delta flight!!

reply to post by mythatsabigprobe


They intercept and get a positive identification. They look for anyone else in the cockpit that shouldn't be three, or any signals by the pilots that they have been taken over. If they don't see anything suspicious, they allow the plane to continue. If they see something suspicious they'll probably have them land somewhere they can secure the plane and passengers.

I have flown in and out of LLBG many times, the Israelis's are extremely careful and incredibly conscious of security (rightfully so). I await more details, I still find it practically impossible that, if they were squawking a hijack code AND had no radio contact, that the IDF would do a simple visual confirmation and allow an approach and landing......Normal procedures would have been to expect the fighters to force a landing at another airport, possibly an unmanned reserve base.

It says that they didn't communicate when entering their airspace. It's not the first time it happened. They may have reestablished communications after being intercepted, or established comms with the fighters.

reply to post by habu71

Yep!
I bet the passengers were scared stiff, that would NOT be a funny site though I do sort of miss the antics of the CHinese ace who was killed a few years back. He used to invade airspace, fly upside down and hold up a sheet of paper with his name and email address to taunt people. That is nerve!

reply to post by secretagent woooman


The pax that were used to flying out of LLBG wouldn't be surprised.....It also is not uncommon for Israeli Security to board the aircraft before being allowed to park at the gate so that they could do a walkthrough and passport check. I've seen people pulled off because the agents did not like their reactions. Imagine doing that in this country....

Can we stop with the rabid tinfoil paranoia?

Any airliner, anywhere in the world that stops responding to towers for more than a few minutes (or even if it deviates off course by more than a hair's length), is immediately suspect and typically dispatched to by fighters.

That's what they will do. Sure as you're born, irregardless of who the plane belongs to and where it is, they will follow the same protocol.

No need to sh*t your pants.






[edit on 11/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

reply to post by habu71

Tell me about it, I have pilot in the family!
I was pulled off a group tour bus in Germany in 1987 and watched by armed guards until they "verified" my ID. Lo and behold, a 16-year American terrorist wearing an Accept t-shirt and high heeled boots! Guess the stacks of bracelets must have caught their eye!

Personally, I would rather be overboard and safe than deal with lax airport security, Orlando International Airport anyone?. A friend who incidentally is an international terrorism "expert" and speaks around the world on the subject was on one of the British flights that was supposedly targeted to be blown up back in 2007 and he really got the willies after that one. I don't think he liked to fly anyway.

Nothing out of the ordinary here. He enters airspace without communicating - they think something is going on.

The whole thing about transponders and radio failure - was that made up?

[edit on 11-4-2009 by mirageofdeceit]

I'd like to see the flight manifest. Just who was on that plane and why? They obviously felt they needed the 'added' security.

More than likely, they were Treasonous dual Israeli American citizens up to no good. Keep your ear out for any 'explosions'.

Hope they didn't leave any Mossad agents lurking around NY.

9/11 repeat?

Wouldn't surprise me the least.

They need a good 'distraction' with all the Heat going around.

Who's at the helm of NORAD This time. I believe Cheney was fired. Where is Cheney hiding out these days? Anyone seen him lately?

He's probably hooked on Youtube reviewing the good ole times.



[edit on 11-4-2009 by Perseus Apex]

reply to post by Perseus Apex


Perseus....did you not read the entire thread? Only two pages.

The cockpit missed a frequency change....oh, sorry, tech-talk. They missed an instruction by a controller to change the radio frequency to the next controller's Sector. Fatigue could have contributed, it happens.

Today, ALL commercial jets monitor, on another Comm Radio, the Emergency frequency, just for these eventualities. When intercepted, the fighters know to attempt contact on that frequency. This is really non-event, except that the scrambling of the fighters got someone's attention, so it made the news. AND, it's Israel....

As to your question about NORAD....um.....what does NORAD have to do with the Mediterreanean???

[EDIT]....you won't ever see a list of passenger's names, so fahgeddaboutit!

[edit on 4/11/0909 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by weedwhacker


Wonder what Homeland Security has to say about this?

Bird Flu Virus in transit!

Could any of those 'passengers' have met with her about this?

I'd still like to see that manifest and yes I read the entire thread.

I don't need another's interpretation either.

To each his own.

reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira

Can we stop with the rabid tinfoil paranoia?

Any airliner, anywhere in the world that stops responding to towers for more than a few minutes (or even if it deviates off course by more than a hair's length), is immediately suspect and typically dispatched to by fighters.

That's what they will do. Sure as you're born, irregardless of who the plane belongs to and where it is, they will follow the same protocol.

Hmmm,
You mean any airliner, anytime, anywhere, UNLESS it is in New York on the morning of september 11th 2001 right?

Even without my tinfoil hat I agree that it's odd for a country such as Isreal that is widely hated by many different countries and capable militant groups, and on a constant state of alert to a possible attack from such a group. That simply flashing the proper hand signals would give them a pass.

It is probably being overreacted to here but in situations like this I agree it's better to investigate and look at all the angles.

Especially that we have former pilots familiar with protocol who also think something is off here.

reply to post by Perseus Apex


Ermmmm....Bird Flu?!?

Passenger manifests?!?

The crew missed a frequency change!!! It's Israel....they react.

The airplane was allowed to land at original destination.

Now, if all the birds in Israel drop dead tomorrow, you MAY have a point!

Otherwise, this is overblown!

Originally posted by 38181
Probably lost comm with aproach or tower and put in the wrong lost comm code in the box, one digit off.......

Likely, also might have been a transponer failure or the crew simply forgot to set the right com-frecqency.

§hit happens more often than most people think, but in or near Israeli airspace one get it right fatigued or not. They are and have always been edgy guarding their territory.

[edit on 11-4-2009 by Ivar_Karlsen]

reply to post by Ivar_Karlsen


I'm sorry, Ivar...perhaps your Avatar is meant to be really funny...I know MINE is!!!

Now, I've lost my train of thought....but, based on my previous posts, I have nothing new to add.....Maybe that is why I felt it neccessary to post again, because any and all can scroll back to see what I posted earlier....

AND, I stand buy what I've already posted, on this subject.......

1.) the pilot activated a hijacking alert by mistake.

2.) A technical malfunction prevented the pilot from communicating with the airport's control tower.

3.) The transportation ministry said it will launch an investigation.


Uh huh... yeah right... got it... move along, nothing to see here...


[edit on 12/4/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]

Has anyone actually considered the fact that what is written in the media is not always the truth? I could give a really recent example of a local event, where basically the only true fact was that there was a collision between two vehicles, but everything else was a complete lie. And this in a News Corp owned paper.

Or perhaps the author of the article/s, misinterpreted something and that is were the issue lies?

I know this is a conspiracy forum and all that, but really is it that hard for people to use common sense and some logic, instead of just jumping to the worst possible conclusion they can dream up?

reply to post by AlienChaser

Hmmm,
You mean any airliner, anytime, anywhere, UNLESS it is in New York on the morning of september 11th 2001 right?

Precisely.

Don't assume because I'm discrediting this article I'm an ultra-sceptic.

The truth is indeed stranger than fiction, I'm just saying here, the most likely cause seems to be the most logical one.

The points I was trying to make earlier was that it is most probably that changing a transponder code to the hijack squawk does happen, but is almost always caught quickly...So, it appears that the incident probably was initiated by a sudden change to a hijack squawk, radio communication was attempted, no response was received, so IDF aircraft intercepted. I simply find an "accidental" hijack squawk on an aircraft that is unable to confirm nor deny via VHF or HF comm EXTREMELY unusual....No conclusions, simply something that is very out of the ordinary.....I might "accidentally" squawk 2155 instead of 3155, but never the hijack squawk....IMHO (and 30K+ hours of flight time)