Christ and Satan have both incarnated.

Here's what I've learned from my sources.

Both Satan and Christ have incarnated on Earth a while ago. The rule
of Hell is left to Satan's son, Santanas. Who I have had the displeasure
of meeting personally in his lair, the 5th circle of Hell. He tortured my
soul.. for what seemed ages, before I was rescued. Luckily the memory
of the actual pain that was caused to me, was erased from my mind. I
was returned to my body after my rescuers broke the chains that held
me.

However, the Christ that has incarnated on Earth, is not the same Jesus
Christ from 2000 years ago, it is a different soul, but with the same
strength, the same abilities and probably even more.. because the battle
that is going to be fought in 2012, between the Christ and His forces, and
Satan and His forces, will be unlike anything this planet has ever seen.

Just like in the time when there were only God and His Angels, when one
of the angels rejected God, everyone has to make a choice now, either
you choose for Darkness and join the fight against the Light, or you will
choose for the Light and you join the fight against Darkness.

I suggest everyone chooses now, before it's too late to choose. I have
made my choice long ago, I will join the Armies of Light of the new Christ.
I'm told I am meant to become some sort of warrior/healer, but everyone
has a task that suits their abilities. I've even bought a battle ready katana
on advice of my spirit guides.. just in case someone susceptible has been
influenced to attack me in my home. These things happen all the time now.

The events will be larger than any prediction in existence.. because both
sides underestimated each others power. The clash is going to be terrible.
Choose now, then educate yourself in the Light or in the Dark.

I have seen Hell, Heaven, Archangels, the most terrible demons, black
dressed armies of Darkness, the shining armor of Light Warriors, I have
seen several battles already with my own eyes, while outside of my body,
what I say is not what I've read somewhere, it is what I have experienced
firsthand.

You're free to ignore, or to accept my words, if you have any questions,
ask me anything you want. That is what I enjoy doing, helping other people
awaken the way I have started awakening, as well as many others.

With all my love,

Hans

If they have then I'll be smack in the middle. Duality isn't my thing.

I prefer to consider "ideas" such as Christ and Satan as archetypes of human consciousness. Viewing prophecies in that context can lead to a better understanding IMO.

Afraid not, they are very real.

My sources is basically the Light spirit world. Entities such as my own and
my friends spirit guides, Archangels such as Michael, Ascended Masters
such as St Germain. Me and my friend ask them questions about the near
and distant future. If we ask trivial questions such as: "what am I thinking
of now", or "which hand am I holding up now", or other questions that no
one else can know, we always receive the correct answer.

Which means that their predictions have a very high chance of being truth
as well. I really wouldn't just discard it if I were you people. But I guess
it is your right to ignore everything.

I have belief in God, I believe Jesus was kindred soul that was trying to share hidden information, but I dont think that there is Heaven or Hell. There is only after. While Evil does exist, and Good exists, there is not firey pit, or cloud city.

Yes evil will battle good, but it is not Hell vs Heaven. they dont exist. They are imginary places invented by Religion to keep us scared.

Personally threads like this just spread more hatred. Which side did you say you where on?

reply to post by Wehali


And how is it you communicate with these entities to ask your questions? ouji board? trance? voices in your head?

Originally posted by Wehali
However, the Christ that has incarnated on Earth, is not the same Jesus
Christ from 2000 years ago, it is a different soul, ...

There is only one Christ .. one saviour of the world. He is God incarnate and He wouldn't be different and He wouldn't have a different soul.

He said that He would come back. He also said there would be many false
messiahs. Your 'different christ' sounds like those false messiahs that the
One and Only True Messiah foretold about.

I smell some Catholic cult teachings here.

The angels could certainly be light forces, but satan is not a god, he is supposed to be angel blood, so bad angels vs good angels and God. Who do you think will win? Its a no brainer. God could wipe out satan with his will alone. no need for battle. So what exactly are you talking about. Sword bearing monsters on one side, and feather lined angels on the other? This battle you speak of, I think will be fought by humans and humans alone. I think this is what was trying to be said in the bible. If we reject love of one another and choose to kill fellow earthly brothers, then of course there will be a larger scale battle between those that want to kill, and those that want to love.

I dont understand this light vs dark. I follow no religion but know the bible. The bible is a very good analagy book, but it certainly is not an actually account of what happened, will happen.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by Le Colonel]

So, I have to ask, when was jesus incarnated this time? Was he born a child and is growing into the man he will become? Or did he incarnate as an adult? Is someone out there walking around, not realizing they are the incarnation of the christ?

I'm absolutely not a christian, but for some reason I'm finding this thread intreguing.

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Well as much as I enjoy religious rhetoric, how do people still firmly believe this stuff?

I don't mean to rag on anybodie's religion. It's your right to believe in whatever you want for however long you want. But the idea of Hell and Heaven and the great battle between Jesus and Satan just seems a little....overdone.

I have a question, If God created Satan (or however you people claim it happened) then why would he not participate himself. I mean we were created in the image of God therefore God should look pretty human, there is no real reason why he would not come and do this himself, why leave it somebody else? Furthermore, why create a son to come be his ambassador when the word of God from God's mouth himself would have been more than sufficient.

Anyway, I digress...

To tell you the truth, nobody can say they understand or know what God is. It is far too complex to understand and we are simply not equipped, or haven't made enough progress spiritualy in order to understand or even accept the idea that a higher being exists.

It is very arrogant for us to say that we understand how things work and that YES there is a god and I KNOW for CERTAIN what he wants me to do and what he is all about.

Heaven, Hell, Satan and Jesus. These are all creations of the human mind in the attempt to explain things are are inexplainable to us because of what is mentioned above. It is not the time to understand such things.

We as a species should be focusing on the things that bring us together not tear us apart. Religion is one of those things. Why bother when we will truly never know, not in this lifetime anyway.

~Keeper

Well, my Mom used to say I was the devil. Perhaps you are right.

My apologies, I am sure you mean this seriously.

When do you propose Satan and the Christ were born? Any specific year? (Just to get an idea how old they would be now) And are they both male? God hasnt gotten with the whole gender equality issue?

First, I never said Satan is a God, he's just a very powerful entity, devoid
of all love, except for the few speckles of love every entity needs to exist.

Also,

You all speak from personal experience, that you know these things
so sure? That you know for sure this doesn't exist, and that doesn't exist,
you've seen with your own eyes that these things don't exist?

My knowledge doesn't come from "ideas", or "opinions" or "things I read
somewhere", they come from firsthand personal experience, from seeing
and hearing and feeling these things firsthand. The soul exists, and it can
leave the body to go out and find the truth.

There is countless evidence of the reality of these things.. even scientific.

I'll post a site where you can find countless texts of personal records and
scientific studies, that prove the existence of incarnation, of Heaven, of
Hell, of Light Beings and Dark beings..

www.near-death.com...

Just look under the scientific categories. Not everything in that site is the
truth, but everything under the scientific categories is real. Because there
they didn't leave any guesses.

At least try and comprehend the fact that there is more out there than you
can see with your physical eyes, touch with your physical hands, hear with
your physical ears.

With love.

[edit on (28/3/09) by Wehali]

So what sides uses Bows?

This battle will be more epic than the lord of the rings one

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Sorry dude but I wont join your battle. i realized that if we want to fix this world, we gotta do it by helping people, not by fighting, nor waiting for a Messiah.

Originally posted by Le Colonel
I smell some Catholic cult teachings here.

I'm Catholic ... rather well versed in the teachings .. and there is NOTHING Catholic about what the OP claims. Nothing.

Here's a good way to tell - when they say they have guides who are 'ascended masters' or 'St. Germain' then you know for sure this isn't anything Catholic.

I am the devil..

ok im not, but I did read what you had to say and on this I shall leave you.

Do not belive in fasle prophets nore ones who pretend to know his name.


god and the devil are one of the same enterty, a manifestation of your own aragance and ideed mine. there is no good and evil in the world only mens attempt to rectify and justify his own exisitance.. and that shall be his downfall..

look in that mirror the next time you make a thread about love and how you are and understand the world looks back at them same shallow eyes your look with and one day you will look and see the real devil and the real god you speak of.

Have a nice day.

Since you claim your knowledge is first hand, you should have no problem answering my previous questions.

I'm waiting....

Originally posted by aNdReSk

Sorry dude but I wont join your battle. i realized that if we want to fix this world, we gotta do it by helping people, not by fighting, nor waiting for a Messiah.

Amen.

Its times like these I wish one word posts were acceptable.

Anything that involves "sides" or battles is a continuation of the "evil" that plagues the world in my opinion also. If we are to accomplish heaven on Earth it will be done with compassion and love, more in line, (ironically) with what Jesus suggested.

Originally posted by Wehali
And you all speak from personal experience, that you know these things
so sure? That you know for sure this doesn't exist, and that doesn't exist,
you've seen with your own eyes that these things don't exist?

I have no clue that if these things exist or not. If they did, none of us would have any understanding of them, they simply are too complex, too above our level of conciousness.

At least try and comprehend the fact that there is more out there than you
can see with your physical eyes, touch with your physical hands, hear with
your physical ears.

I could not agree more. There is a soul and there are many things that we do not see that are here, all around us, all the time. However claiming that you understand such things and can put words meanings and stories to them is completely ridiculous. What you have experienced is a set of spiritual messages meant to guide your spirit to a greater truth, there is something to learn from this. It is yours and yours alone my friend.

I do not doubt that you have experienced these things, but they are not to be taken at face value. Dreams and out of body experiences never show things as they are, but rather make you figure our the meanings behind the symbols and images you are being presented with.

If your mind uses your faith to perceive and interpret these spiritual openings while communicating with your soul then yes you will have seen the devil and angels and maybe even God himself.

But those symbols were carefully chosen by your brain in order to interpret a message, one that goes beyond the scenery of the dream.

~Keeper



[edit on 3/28/2009 by tothetenthpower]

Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic
So, I have to ask, when was jesus incarnated this time? Was he born a child and is growing into the man he will become? Or did he incarnate as an adult? Is someone out there walking around, not realizing they are the incarnation of the christ?

I'm absolutely not a christian, but for some reason I'm finding this thread intreguing.

They didn't tell me where Christ incarnated, but he was born as a child and
developed into adulthood, just like Jesus Christ 2000 years ago, that is just
how the human body functions.

I stress the fact that I've gotten my information from firsthand experience,
they are not just my opinions or my ideas, or things I've read in a book, I
am completely convinced they are the truth, because I have seen and have
experienced them.

Also, even though I am a Christian, I have never even read the bible in my
entire life. I'm not a practicing religious person, I only go from what I have
experienced, heard and seen and learned.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Le Colonel
I smell some Catholic cult teachings here.

I'm Catholic ... rather well versed in the teachings .. and there is NOTHING Catholic about what the OP claims. Nothing.

Here's a good way to tell - when they say they have guides who are 'ascended masters' or 'St. Germain' then you know for sure this isn't anything Catholic.

I never said my guides are ascended masters, my guides are just souls like
myself, at about the same level of development. But my friend has the ability
to communicate with any entity of Light he desires, and we have been given
too much evidence that everything is real, to have a single doubt in our mind
left.