Massive object crashes over Edmonton, Canada

reply to post by grover


i had a friend just leaving the city and she said she seen it, she said it looked like a rolling ball then it just disapeared over the city, she said it looked like it exploded, all i seen was a flash in the sky i probably caught the end of it, news reports say it`s a metoerite www.spaceweather.com...

What is that streak of smoke to the left of the bright light? It appears as though it is coming straight down or is it smoke going straight up?

Also, it is listed here as a "cosmic event", cause unknown.

"I saw this large orb shoot across in an east-southeast direction, on a very steady trajectory," he said. "It was very, very big. And I've seen a lot of shooting stars from all the world as I travelled, but I've never seen one so large. It was very bright yellow, with hints of green in it. It stayed in the air ... for about two to two and a half seconds." Alister Ling, an Edmonton-area amateur astronomer who is a member of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, recorded the fireball using equipment from Alan Hildebrand, a meteorite researcher at the University of Calgary. "When it flares out on the tape, you can see there's several of these multiple flashes, and that's when it's probably partly blowing up, which is also a really good indicator … that there's multiple stones that have come down," he said.

visz.rsoe.hu...

That is some JACKPOT footage.

It flashes 4 or 5 times and then you can see THICK black smoke as the object seems to continue on. It almost looked like CGI! Obviously it wasn't but see the object continuing on after the flashes?!?! WOW!!!

I'm pretty sure that wasn't the lost NASA toolbag!

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watch.ctv.ca...
Guess it wasn't october 14?
lol.

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New link !
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I would just like to say that I am down in Calgary, AB (about 3 hours south of Edmonton) and on my way home tonight the sky was pretty bright and vibrant, of course this was around 8:30pm and could have just as well been the northern lights.

I haven't read the whole thread yet just had a quick glance over a couple pages so I don't know if its been mentioned yet but this is oddly enough somewhat of a common occurrence here in Alberta. By common occurrence I mean every couple months.

Edit: Silly post from a bad doggie.





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I went for a drive from Sherwood Park to Beaumont/Nisku to see what I could find out.. there is definitely some air traffic there above and in between Beaumont and Nisku, I watched a couple aircraft flying in the area and then land at the airport.

One was a bright light in the sky that I believe I mistook for a UFO because it seemed so still. I speculate that it was an aircraft with bright lights flying directly towards me for about 30 seconds, then turning which caused the sudden change in trajectory and brightness. It shouldn't have been a commercial flight, especially because the sudden changes in altitude and velocity on it's joyride. It looked like this guy was having fun I am pretty sure it went to the airport after that, escorted by another larger (more responsible) craft. I see no reason these two aircrafts would be flying in such close proximity and so erratically other than because they were looking for something. It seemed there was some more traffic just north of the Edmonton International airport as well as I drove home via the QE2 Hwy.

I would say that you are mistaken... there has been a few occurances like this however.. never this big or bright

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Hi There,

I skipped a few pages on this thread; and I'm unsure as to whether or not this is even relevant. I saw the "meteor" tonight, on my drive home from work. I was on the Southside of Edmonton (close to Southgate Mall) and I literally felt a rumbling, heard a rumbling and then the flash as you already know. Further to that, and this is the part I'm unsure of being relevant, and I find it odd it hasn't been noted, shortly after (within seconds) Military Jets swooshed over... I don't know if that's important or not.

I did not see the jets, however, a helicoptor was there shortly after and circled a bit.

I saw the fireball in the eastern sky in Edmonton at 5:28 this evening. First I saw a bright flash, followed by the slow descent of the fireball. My initial thought was that I was viewing a plane crash. The fireball didn't look far away at all. I pulled my car over to the side of the road and braced for an explosion. I didn't see or hear any signs or sounds of an impact. Perhaps the falling object was further away than it looked. This object did not look like a shooting star typically associated with meteorite showers. It was much larger ( about an eighth the size of a full moon in the night sky) with a clear trail of white-orange flame trailing from it. When I got home an hour later I checked the local news but there was no coverage. I checked online and found that the timing would be right for it to be part of the Leonid meteor shower. I must stress again though that this did not look like any of the meteors I've seen before in my life.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Ok as Unknown Truth posted there is a video of it striking the earth.

It's not striking the Earth. It just looks like that. See my earlier posts, or my "stickie" on this forum for a full explanation

Originally posted by Phage
There is a possibility it did not land. It could have skipped off of the upper atmosphere and gone back into space.

Some of the reports and videos are conflicting. Earlier on I thought there was a good possibility it grazed or skimmed the atmosphere, but the video on spacewaether and a couple of others indicate that the radiant was high in the sky, and it doesn't look much like a grazer either. Leonids are out, and Taurids are looking unlikely... It's too fast for Junk.

This is looking more and more like a small random asteroid.

Originally posted by red_leader
This question I pose to you: When objects of this size are supposed to be clearly visible in the sky, don`t the scientists/astro-physicists/NASA/Galileo's of the world usually know in advance???

It seems to me every couple of weeks we hear about some meteor shower or comet that we're supposed to be able to see, how could they have missed this?

The answer is, that objects of this size are not all that clearly visible in the sky, at least not until the last few seconds!

The object which caused this fireball was probably no bigger than 1-2m , perhaps 3m... and there are lots of chunks of rock of that size out there. It's almost impossible to spot rocks in the 1-5m size range, and keep track of them all, but there is little point since they don't pose much of a threat to us. All they do is make pretty light shows (ok - awesome light shows ), and give us samples once in a while.

It's the 10, 20, 30, or 50m + sized rocks that are starting (in this size range) to become a danger to us (possible Tunguska sized event at the upper end of this range). We might expect to see one like that every 50-100 years.

What people saw tonight occurs somewhere on this Earth (usually out of sight, over sea, uninhabited terrain, or in daylight) perhaps once every month or two. It's only unusual because so many saw it over a populated area.

Originally posted by GioTheGreek

He calmly said that it was because of the meteors gases.... but I didn't buy that either.

Thanks for the wiki link. Very interesting stuff. Star and flagged

Not sure about that wiki link (I only had a quick browse), but meteors usually appear the way they do due to the gases present in our atmosphere at various altitudes, which is usually tempered by the composition. Meteors when they are first seen appear to be green because Oxygen is more prevalent than nitrogen at the altitude where meteors first become visible. Lower down, nitrogen is more prevalent and meteors appear to be red. See this post I made about it, including some examples.

Originally posted by red_leader
What about Hubble, Spitzer or other large telescopes?? Is it possible that thy captured images of this?

No. They could not react fast enough, and they could not focus properly either amongst other things.


reply to post by mikesingh


If you check my previous posts Mike, you'll see why it's not possible that this was a Leonid.

Originally posted by brettcal82
Dont You find it a bit funny by looking at the size of that thing in the video, theres no videos being uploaded to youtube, nothing on the news and no casualties or anything reported that by looking at it had to cause some serious damage

This may well hit the MSM, if it has not already. It'll probably be lower down the list of priority if your local news is anything like mine...

I hope that answered a few more questions. I have to get some shut-eye now as it's well past my bed time, and I can't get up too late! I'll be back as soon as I can

Here's one from Australia a few years back, just for comparison.
Line 2, you're on the air.

Originally posted by internos
Whatever it was, it looks to be in two parts: you can outline two different streaks.

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nice one, here is the explanation again.

hi, this is my first post in this site.

i have seen an similar event in 1999 over Ankara, Turkey. But it was an obvious one big rock entering the atmosphere horizontally and moving quite fast.

There was a very bright light over the whole Ankara City during the combustion of asteroid for about 3-4 secs. after combustion completed there was a massive trail of combustion behind it.

But after i see the video of this event in Canada i can tell that that one is look like something different.

why?

-in event at Ankara there was a single color bright light, this one has multiple colors.
-in event at Ankara there was a bright yellowish white light during the whole combustion and it was the same amount of light for all burning period, in Canada event it is quite different the amount of light is changing, sometimes no light.

what can it be?

in my opinion, in Canada event there were possibly more than one rock which are having different chemical compositions. This is how you can explain different colors.

Which are a group of rocks traveling together in a unique order, maybe couple rows of rocks entering the atmosphere with different distances btw. every rock.

check below for the explanation of system

1st line: h(5km)j(2km)k(1 km)l&k(1km)
(1km)
2nd line: u(3km)g
(5km)
3rd line: z(9km)t
(4km)
4th line: r(1km)o(6km)p
(xkm)
" " " " "

(every letter is indicating a rock with different chemical composition, a is showing smallest, z is showing biggest radius, (x km) indicating distance btw rocks, lines moving together, bigger letter should emit more light)

that is how you can explain the brightness of light is changing during the event.

i hope i am helpful. have a good day.

Abdullah from Turkey.
[email protected]

Hey, um ...

what's with the object entering the video on the upper right?

also interseting to note on the dash video, to the left are the letters "NWOO" ... hmmmm
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ok .. well, here's something I just found and remember it well.

www.kgw.com...

Just wondering if anyone heard the sonic boom or is this guy full of BS ??

Originally posted by internos
Whatever it was, it looks to be in two parts: you can outline two different streaks.

That's an internal lens reflection.

OK, perhaps just time for a couple more quick ones...



reply to post by osmanli


All meteors are different, and no two meteors are, or appear alike. Please read up on it in my post here.

Originally posted by TopGunMavrick
It lit up the Alberta sky from South to North and one witness reported hearing a large muffled thud sound as it hit ground. Was this a meteor, or could it be something else, perhaps a ship?

It's much more likely that the sound was from sonic booms. However, the timing seems a little strange for that... I'd wait until we know more.

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