If Israel didn't exist?

So if Israel wasn't created as a nation 60 yrs ago where would the world be now? What do you think we would be with this whole Iraq/Iran situation? What would the US be doing without them? I've seen a lot of posts about Israel lately and they seem to be doing a lot of provoking and IMO I don't think the US would have anything to do with Iran if Israel wasn't around.... I would just like to hear others thoughts on how they think the world would be without Israel around........

You probably wouldn't exist.



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If Israel didn't exist, the Arab nations would be at each others throats instead of being united against a Zionist empire. So this was a good benefit. Course the Arab armies tend to underestimate the Jews canny ability to survive.

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It's tough to say as to what would be the case. To say that without Israel there wouldn't be the situation with Iran is probably not true, I'm sure the oil situation is playing it's part and that's nothing to do with Israel, and it's also likely that man would've found some other grievance to start a war or at least threat of a war, I mean can anyone actually locate a period of time when there wasn't a war going on in the world?

As to Israel, I understand why it was created, but for Israel to then extend it's borders beyond those agreed in the UN, is not right to me.

Then the Bible wouldnt exist. Lets contemplate that one.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Then the Bible wouldnt exist. Lets contemplate that one.

Well, there is a diffrence of the "State of Isreal" and the "Nation of Isreal".


IMHO, if the Jews werent in isreal, then the muslims probaly would be expanding in all directions, instead of concetrated chaos in the Middle East

Israel exist, because the Elites, United Nations planned it being part
of their secret agenda ( creat a New World Order ) and they created it,
on a theatrical world war against the jewish people to justify it creation.

To gain full control and instablish a New World Order, Elites know they
have to control Islam so geopoliticly they have control of the region of
Israel is a strategique advantage and that give them control the Holy land
to, for psychological strategique tactics.

Israel is a trigger, When the United Nation will be ready as they planned
they will tell the USA, England and all members of the coalition to launch
a attack on Iran, as soon as Isreal launch the first attack. Then they will
control the last uncontrol territory in the region.

Strategicly, the coalition had circle iran from all borders and they are now
ready to attack, all they are waiting is populations aprobation, so they are
using propaganda to prepare the world for another war.

After this horible war who will get into a WW3 , countries will all get into
6 unions to finaly, later unify those unions to One World Unions, with One
World Goverment to creat a One World Empire... before 2033.

*** Achiles 13 ***

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Then the Bible wouldnt exist. Lets contemplate that one.

And considering the strife that book has caused, it not existing would be a bad thing because...?

The Second Line.

No more strife than the Koran has created.

Originally posted by Terran Blue

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Then the Bible wouldnt exist. Lets contemplate that one.

And considering the strife that book has caused, it not existing would be a bad thing because...?

The Second Line.

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Oooo... witty comeback.....

^ And your thought was "oh just so original". Whatever.