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The Internet Conspiracy?

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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 02:12 PM
The Internet Conspiracy?

Is there a conspiracy to get us all dependant on the internet, using a variety of services?

Just think, everything from Banking, surgeries, the newly coined 'social networking sites', long distance made free (VOIP), applications, legal advice, shopping, and I'm sure more things will come out and be provided online.

Is the next step to slowly remove all human based services and persuade people to keep up with technology, getting more and more people online.

New sites offer more video-instant-ready-in-10-seconds content, and encourages more participation whether it be through the use of points, votes, diggs, etc.

Once everything is online, whomever controls access to these services that we are now all used to and dependant on, can decide who has access to what. Once you're cut off from the rest of the 'virtual sheeple', you're done.

Think about the last time your internet connection went down. I will bet you get super withdrawal symptoms even with no news ticker there to update what's happening in the world.

On one side, this isn't new. Everything is getting networked, connected, and 'inter-networked.

What happens once that is done?

It reminds me of the wild west. Everyone was after the 'new world'. There were no laws. Eventually crime went rampant, but only then did the authorities step in and set rules and order. Why wait until the situation gets to that point?

Isn't that what is happening now? The latest issue with bandwidth throttling in Canada, in the U.S.(?), justified because there's more 'demand' for more content to be available for more users. 10 years ago (or more), the internet was a lawless world of 1's and 0's. Did any regulations step in then? Not that I know of. It's only after the 'problem', which was allowed to grow on purpose, that the authorities step in with their 'solution'.

If I can use another metaphor as an example, (because we all love metaphors!), is condominiums being built all over the city, and every summer you're asked to conserve power, as there's not enough to go around (and the City won't pay for new power).

Thank you for reading.

posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:17 PM
I have given this a thought for a while now. It is being used to save paying wages and saving mailing, in my opinion.

Some of us cannot get decent bandwidth at anything near a reasonable cost. I would be in a major hurt if I must rely on the internet. I would spend many times what the average user does to complete tasks.

Many will recall how the energy companies started running fiber and had plans to trade bandwidth. I bet something along those lines will resurface at some point. If that doesn't it will be cost to access the internet. I cannot see greed not increasing when the chance arises. I really is in the hands of those who own the wires.

I hope I am being to negative in all this but when I look at the world and business it reinforces my thought.

posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:34 PM
I think either somehow websites will find a way to start charging fees to even visit their site which I hope that never happens


... internet will forever remain free and one day a robot will be you're local clerk and ups guy and you will grow fatter as the years pass until you literally explode.

posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 06:40 PM
I think it's more about information..what you earn, what you spend it on, where, how, why, is it legal, it it taxable, is it incriminating to you or others, what are your hobbies, what clubs do you belong to, and probably the most obvious....what does this person want?

The more diverse the choice that's offered on the internet, the more diverse the information gets that is applied to a transaction.
Ultimately, the more information known about someone, the easier they are to understand, manipulate and control, and even easier if they are distracted.

I imagine that most services would remain's in their interest to get customers and the information that is as valuable as the small plastic disc you may have just ordered. The junk mail starts, the spam gets deleted from your e-mails, their latest promotion is best-ever, new, "whiter-than-white" and somewhere along the line, small businesses will get offered the chance to give their customers credit, thus adding to the big list of "how to never own anything" purchases. And don't forget your FREE chance to spend anything you may have left on something you need (t.b.c.). And if all that fails....they've made a couple of pennies selling your info.

I still prefer to pick something up with my hands, not have to pay postage, get something I want, and get some fresh air and exercise at the same time. Oh yeah, and pay with money....real money, that came from nowhere in particular but my pocket thankyou very much and you don't need to know who just bought these items by having me use a store card and NO, I don't have anything smaller! lol

Things Happen When You Go Out!
the internet is a great tool, but there's no substitute for real's more fun

[edit on 15/4/2008 by nerbot]

posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 07:08 PM
One of the first things to emerge during the upcoming years is internet censorship.

It probably started in China. Now, also in Finland the major ISPs already have a list of web sites that their customers won't be able to access. This list is collected by the police, and at the first phase this censorship is supposed to block access to sites that present child abuse and different forms of pornography, mainly the latter. This system is soon to be introduced in the entire Europe. When a person tries to go to a blocked address, there will only be a page with the words "Police - No access - Illegal content".

After the good loyal citizens have gotten accustomed to the fact of everyday internet censorship blocking clearly criminal or at least sinful acts, the European censorship list is soon going to be expanded to include all web sites that have information of online gambling (illegal), guns and home chemistry (dangerous), immigration problems (racism) and peer-to-peer file sharing (copyright infringement), not to mention others.

It's only a question of time when most web sites criticizing the government will also be blocked. After all, criticizing the government creates harmful thoughts and so does mere reading of such discussions as well. It doesn't do any good for anyone browsing the various conspiracy sites, as there are no conspiracies. It's best for all of us that we can't access these harmful piles of filth at all in internet. Right?

I'm seeing the electronic equivalent of the burning book piles of Fahrenheit 451 starting to form in the not-so-distant future.

[edit on 15.4.2008 by Doc Lithium]

posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:09 PM
Very good point doc, but how about what you just said and what I just said...together

Censorship of the individual internet user! With everytrhing only available on the internet and no need to go outside the door, how would you know what you're "allowed" and what is and isn't "legal" etc? Each "user" would have their own "e-profile" and they can only have what they are offered, how would they really know what's out there? Not the same for everybody I BET.

"I'll do anything to get my "virtual-playgirl jackpot pantie" game back online! I only need to buy 12 more CDs from Amazon!"
or "I can't believe they made football illegal"

The world will go mad before it happens.

posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 02:30 AM
Great post Starred and Flagged

Its about time someone brought up the simple everyday conspiracy's of life that we all to easily look over because it is something we enjoy and supposedly need so much.

I see the future of the internet being a lot more virtual for example the sites like second life and habbo more and more people are leaving their lives to spend hours at a time on these types of sites. Shopping cent res online where you can walk around and do your shopping then get it delivered direct to your door basically ignoring everything going on in the real world.

I picture people living in dumpy houses getting obese and unhealthily living in virtual mansions looking great spending their money on virtual objects that cost nothing to make but give big profits to the makers.

This isn't far from happening there are already people who have completely moved to the virtual business as in building and fitting out houses in second life and then selling them for ridiculous amounts of money
Its a sad sad world we live in

posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 02:43 AM
reply to post by Techsnow

hahaha, thats hilarious.

50 years from now, people will look at pictures from our time and say "wow their doorways were that narrow, how did they ever fit?"

posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 12:33 PM
Found this old 2005 article.
The Internet of things

Talks about the Internet of things.... is that a fancy play on The Nature of Things?

Changes brought about by the internet will be dwarfed by those prompted by the networking of everyday objects, says a report by a UN body.

What do they mean by "everyday objects"?

Radio Frequency Identification (RFID), sensors, robotics and nanotechnology will make processing power increasingly available in smaller and smaller packages so that networked computing dissolves into the fabric of things around us.

The result could mean remote controls embedded in clothing, cars that alert their driver when they have developed a fault, managers who check on workers through the RFID devices embedded in their phones, and bags that remind their owners that they have forgotten something.

There are already examples of the technology in action. Tiny sensors are used to check San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge for structural damage and in coffee beans in Brazil for quality control.

Some of the benefits of this ubiquitous networked society include cheaper HIV treatments, more effective pharmaceutical controls and the purification of water using nanofilters.

We're slowly relying on these RFID devices to monitor food and structural integrity. What happens if the devices malfunction? who cares? they only cost 5 cents to make, and I made a cool $1,000,000,000 off it.

RFID devices in everything? Have a look at the email exchange I found at this site:

The low-cost RFID tag business is an up and coming technology. The Holy Grail of this business is to produce an ID tag that costs only 5 cents to manufacture and therefore can be embedded in almost any consumer product. RFID tags are kind of like Web browser cookies for everyday objects. They allow individual products to be tracked during their entire life time from their birth at a factory all the way to their death at the local landfill. RFID readers work up to a distance of 5 feet and don't require any special efforts for tags to be read.

So you'll be wearing/carrying/ingesting? miniature web-browsers that can track everything, and people within 5 feet, who knows what they're doing, can instantly read all device history/info. Talk about invading your privacy...

The so-called Internet of Things is predicted to offer new business opportunities for all, from manufacturers to the telecoms industry, and create entirely new markets.

But it cold also have negative impacts, such as increased levels of electro-magnetic radiation generated by a world of communicating objects.

So this whole thing is just a way of creating new markets. That's it. Nothing to do with protection, efficiency, sharing of knowledge... just force everyone to accept the fact everything is online, tempting them with greed.

"Society will have to deal with some very substantial issues," said Jonathan Murray, Chief Technology Officer for Microsoft Europe.

Concerns about RFID technology have already led to consumer boycotts. In addition, the lack of technical standards for the component technologies could hinder its evolution.

But while it is hard to say to what extent it will develop, the past gives us a hint of the future, according to Ms Srivastava.

"It's safe to say that technology today is more pervasive than we would ever have imagined possible 10 years ago," she said.

"Similarly, 10 years from now things will continue in this general direction. That's what these new technologies are telling us."

Not only will it be pervasive, it will be more intrusive, exclusive, and if you don't like it, you get cut off.

Speaking from personal experience, the last 10 years of browsing many many many sites full of mis, dis, and great information. If you take that away from me, it's easy to see how little and simple my world becomes.

My advice? use it while you still can and learn as much as you can. Print things out and save them, don't rely on the 1's and 0's being complacent on different storage devices. Learn a skill you can use and be self-sufficient as much as you can.

If you're cut off from the library, good luck learning how to read.

posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 01:04 PM
Some more interesting information about online services/applications:

"Once RFID readers are deployed in most of the stores here in the US,
there will some really amazing tracking systems that can be put into
place. For example, just by embedding RFID tags into clothing, stores
can recognize returning customers a la "Minority Report". Also stores can send out "all-points bulletins" for clothing items that have gone
Shoplifters won't be able to hide."


People losing any kind of profit will be the number one killer

Kazakhstan and Lithuanian customs officials are using electronic seals to ensure truck cargo doors are not opened en route."

"By improving trade route security, the government also hopes to attract more commercial cargo traffic."

Really? I thought it was to protect against the terrorists.

"The tag on the seal transmits an alert in the event that the seal has been tampered with. In addition, it can send other data, such as the identity of the truck and driver, the type of cargo being transported, and, in some cases, the entire manifest."

"...which transmit at two frequencies: 433 MHz for long distance, 125 kHz for short range..."

I wonder how these frequencies affect the human body...

"If the seal is tampered with at any point along the route, the agency receives an alert from the next interrogator that reads the tag, and can then dispatch a local government officer to stop the truck."


This agency has the power to dispatch 'local government officials'?

"USDA Pushes Plan to Move NAIS Forward
The U.S. Department of Agriculture's seven-point plan is aimed at getting 70 percent of all cattle in the country enrolled in the National Animal Identification System by 2010."


I wonder which cattle they are referring to... gee, if they do this to animals, they will never do it to humans!
I believe they only track the cattle to maximize profit. If there's a hold up in the line because some cow thinks it has feelings, we need to know about it right away and clear the blockage! time is money people!

"The consumer can then use that record to download a variety of coupons and other rewards, based on the amount of recycling they did."


If you don't do your recycling now, you'll get a nasty letter from your 'local government official' how you're killing the planet. And if you do recycle, great! here are some coupons to buy more of our products (with more RFID chips!).

"Eco-friendly Clothing Store Plans to Debut With RFID"


This is funny to me. What kind of damage is being done from the manufacturing, production, and delivery of these little chips, made from various lethal toxic metals? It doesn't matter. Our clothes are made from Bamboo! Go Earth!

Much more on the The World's RFID "Authority":
RFID Journal

posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 01:26 AM
THis RFID tagging is so invasive. Your profile can be read in a second by whoever has a reader.

This is straying off topic, but just thinking of the above, and I have no idea if this is even true.

I came across a site once that claimed some cash is embedded. Done on 100 bills, and originally designed to catch large stashes of cash being hidden by drug dealers. It said you could drive by a building with a scanner & actually count how many 100's are in there. Personally I would think they are more interested in catching those who keep cash for other reasons

But we are soon heading into a cashless, stashless society, and as your post states, we can buy whatever online, never having to use actual cash.

One day while out shoppng, my credit card was denied over a large purchase. I got home & received a call from Visa stating they thought my card was stolen, and so they denied it. I asked why and they said I had also dined at a restaurant prior to that store, and this restaurant's low pricing didn't jive with the expensive purchase at that store. I only use my card for larger purchases, and so another time a subway sandwhich caused them to freeze my card. Indeed they were right, the sandwhich wasn't for me! They say they were just protecting me, but it came across as pofiling my lifestyle. So now I use it randomly to confuse them.

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