I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

Originally posted by i_want_to_believe
Sleeper,

I am curious if you have read this thread, I have just started, it is pretty interesting.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And if you have what do you think about it?

Well the USSR had built fences around its country with machinegun towers and barbed wire fences to keep people from escaping---that should shed a bit of light on how evil that country was. And ET did help in the dismantling of it.

Originally posted by sleeper
Well the USSR had built fences around its country with machinegun towers and barbed wire fences to keep people from escaping---that should shed a bit of light on how evil that country was. And ET did help in the dismantling of it.

In what alternate reality was there fences and armed towers around the entire USSR?

Originally posted by observe50
Funbags, you have to review the thread and follow. You seemed to have missed the unapproiate pictures that he/she posted. This person would not stop and pushed it to the limits with said pictures. I believe he did break some rules.

Thanks for the replay, but you are incorrect. It was Zerodown that posted the inappropriate things about Lear and Sleeper (of a sexual nature), and was only given a warning. He later posted a pornographic picture and was banned.

greerISaFraud was threatened with being banned for simply saying he worked at NSA, and later was stealth banned and can no longer log into his account (which still appears active).

So, one guy (Zerodown) basically accuses Sleeper and John of having a sexual relationship and was given a warning (violated the TAC).

Another guy (greerISaFraud) finds holes in Sleeper's story and questions John's agenda and that person gets banned for mentioning he works at NSA (no violation of TAC).

Can you see how things are not adding up??

Originally posted by mojo4sale
Hi sleeper, i'm curious, but i doubt your veracity, please dont hold that against me.
Why do all your answers to questions need to be started with a witty retort followed by .lol.
Can you also answer those who have questions that dont necessarily mirror your beliefs. You stated that you are coming clean on extraterrestrials, did you not expect to have to answer some hard questions.
I'm not trying to be smart or antagonistic i just would like clear answers to serious questions on a serious subject.
Thanks.
M4S.

People monkey with me all the time---lol

I spend a huge amount of time defending myself against people that have not read my posts and assume I said something that I didn't---either they don't take the time to actually read what I wright or they are only trying to gum up my threads with nonsense---most are trying to gum up my thread by misquoting me intentionally

And people like you come around and read their intentional lies and you believe them---it’s a free country and you are allowed to do that.

It's sock-puppet time, folks.

The same people posting under different names (and possibly IP's)

I say for Sleeper to just keep doing what he's been doing. Answering people's questions and ignoring the rude posts. Nothing we say will make them go away, just as nothing they say will effect us either.

Just ignore'em and keep going, Sleeper!
People are still listening.

Hydden

funbags, I do sincerely apologize to you.

I just came back here to correct my mistake and you already caught it. I should have checked the names first instead of writing first and checking second.

I am embarrassed that I had the nerve to tell you to follow the thread then make a mistake like that.

I should smack myself ten times with a cooked noodle but I won't, I would eat them first cause that's the way I am.

However, I do sincerely apologize.





[edit on 1-2-2007 by observe50]

Originally posted by HolyDiver66
Hi Sleeper,
Thanks again for answering my questions!

I got a question for you - Do you know anything about Dr. Dan burisch?
Dr.Burisch mother just wrote a book called 'My Son and an Alien!"

Danny Crain is also known as Dr. Dan Burisch

Not familiar with that book or his involvement in black projects, but I do know that black projects are run by both sides---and once you are in you never get out---for obvious reasons

Also you told me milton said to "takecare of myself" I'm not dying am I?

We are all dieing otherwise we never get off this crazy planet---lol

But that was not Milton’s inference with that comment

Originally posted by Hydden
It's sock-puppet time, folks.

The same people posting under different names (and possibly IP's)

I say for Sleeper to just keep doing what he's been doing. Answering people's questions and ignoring the rude posts. Nothing we say will make them go away, just as nothing they say will effect us either.

Just ignore'em and keep going, Sleeper!
People are still listening.

Hydden

Thanks Hydden,


You are on the money, it’s simply amazing how many reincarnations take place on my threads alone, and some are so blatantly obvious---

Originally posted by Funbags
Can you see how things are not adding up??

You are so off base it's funny. No, I mean it really is funny how obsessed you guys can be with this event.

giAf is hilarious. I am so amused by his desire to be believed by a bunch of people he derides as fools. Oh ho ho I can't stop laughing. People get banned because they can't remain civil or stay on topic. Also, NO BIG LOSS to this thread. Especially when he starts threatening Americans as an NSA employee (supposedly)?! That dude needed to be flushed.


FunBags you aren't really that fun. Attacking the admins with your poorly formed opinions is a waste of time. Too many people are watching the conversation for you to frame it wrongly. As has been said, ATS is a collection point for a lot of people, thousands of registered members globally, you know? It's like saying two people are in cahoots because they both walked into the louvre or something. So the hell what?! ATS is a meeting place for a lot of people, and they do have offline conversations. Trying to deride the board in this manner indicates that you have some agenda.

John Lear goes on Coast to Coast and says that he believes sleeper's story and plugs ATS. So the hell what? You'll latch onto anything which enables you to post in his threads. You crave the involvement.

Originally posted by Funbags

So, did the aliens abduct you in the 70's and let you remember enough to write a book in 95' and then they erased your memory until your abduction at the age of 52???

Do you read any of Sleeper's posts? If you did you would know that he answered this way:

It’s non fiction but it is not my experience, I wrote the info they gave me---and they dumped a lot of info on me and much of it never made it into that book---I did my best to interpret what was very weird and confusing stuff.

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by GLDNGUN

How do you know that which you claim to have experienced is real or is an implanted memory?

Fair question but how do you know your experiences are not implanted memories---how does anyone know?

Fair questions deserve fair answers, not more questions. GLDNGUN is not the one claiming to be in contact with aliens. So, seeing that you have conceded the fact that it is a fair question, can you also concede the fact that your memories might not be acurate?

You have changed your story on varying details several times claiming that the memories are more clear than they were. So, what's to say that the clearer memories you have now aren't 'newer' memories implated by your alien friends to keep you from knowing the 'truth'? Or perhaps they are a fresher psychosis used to explain away the logics of things your rational brain knows to be incorrect.

Without physical evidence of your experiences, sleeper, can you honestly dismiss the idea that you might be mentally ill, and are only experiencing these things in your own mind? Respectfully (and I do truly mean that, regardless of what you think I feel about you.) better and more accomplished men than you have had to disregard entire portions of their lives because of halucinations caused by varying forms of mental illness. (One being the eminent mathmatician and nobel laurette John Nash.)

[edit on 1-2-2007 by HankMcCoy]

[edit on 1-2-2007 by sleeper]

Originally posted by mister.old.school

Originally posted by sleeper
Well the USSR had built fences around its country with machinegun towers and barbed wire fences to keep people from escaping---that should shed a bit of light on how evil that country was. And ET did help in the dismantling of it.

In what alternate reality was there fences and armed towers around the entire USSR?

Well you got me there---lol

The former USSR is 90% frozen hell hole that no one could traverse without dieing in that Siberian wasteland----nevertheless desperation to get out of the Hell known as the USSR countless thousands if not millions took their chances and froze to death in their attempts to escape.

No fence was needed in those parts of Russia

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
You have changed your story on varying details several times claiming that the memories are more clear than they were. So, what's to say that the clearer memories you have now aren't 'newer' memories implated by your alien friends to keep you from knowing the 'truth'? Or perhaps they are a fresher psychosis used to explain away the logics of things your rational brain knows to be incorrect.

My mind is infinitely clearer than yours Hank---you constantly misquote me---I assume on purpose---knowing that no one will check.

Either that or you are dyslectic, if so you have no business doing what you are doing because you don’t understand plain English---and that’s all I use---lol

Originally posted by sleeper
My mind is infinitely clearer than yours Hank---you constantly misquote me---I assume on purpose---knowing that no one will check.

Either that or you are dyslectic, if so you have no business doing what you are doing because you don’t understand plain English---and that’s all I use---lol

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now please do me the favor of answering my questions instead of infering I have a learning disability. We are supposed to be civil, remember?

Hank, please leave this thread. You offer no insight, creativity, etc. You would be better served doing something else. Your points have been made. You say the same things over and over again, and everyone is sick and tired of your posting.

Please go away,

mike

Thank you Sleeper for answering GLDNGUN's question. However, don't we already know the homo sapien existance doesn't just stop there? It isn't alien vs. human in terms of choices-- we've talked about it-- you're tripping on the carpet sleeper.

*ZeroDown deserved to be banned based upon violation of TAC. His theory was horrible but it was funny and raised a question.
*GIAF made a claim and backed it up with as much information as he could. The government people i've met don't always act nice and mysterious-- they're regular people. It looks like some people blow these types out of proportion with imagination and movies-- gov't employees are regular people-- and the "hollywood" version wouldn't be posting on ATS. GIAF openly stated he thinks sleeper is bs based upon his own clearance and understanding... hello, anybody home? That means he's not high up on the food chain and thererfor that adds credence to his claims.
*Probed-- he didn't have John Lear backing him- mixed with unprofessionalism-- so I see how that got botched up.


And again, this famous question that always goes unanswered,

What if ET was wrong to put us on prison?

I wonder why this question doesn't get answered by sleeper, and I wonder if it's because the alien gestapo will take him to get interviewed afterwards Let's hope that's a joke.

Please, I am asking you both to stop this. It appears this is a no win situation for either of you.

I will say that I have an interest in what Sleeper has to say but I also understand where Hank is coming from.

I do hope the two of you will bring this to some kind of peaceful conclusion soon.

Originally posted by observe50
I will say that I have an interest in what Sleeper has to say but I also understand where Hank is coming from.

I think we are all interested in what sleeper has to say, some of us are just asking tougher questions, that's all. I will agree however, this IS a no-win situation, but I am not trying to win anything, just trying to get honest answers to honest questions.

Ditto Hank.

Sleeper should come clean on both questions, as it has taken about 10 pages with no answer.