Otto von Bismarck about Russia and Ukraine

a reply to: Kenzo

When all is said and done Kenzo.

And they start to pick up the pieces.

Both Russia and Ukraine will be lucky if there is still a man left standing under pensionable age.

Keeping in mind both nations already suffer from an aging population.

Russia is pricing itself out of the game with people.

Hell of a predicament really considering you cannot simply replace an entire generation at the drop of a hat.

a reply to: andy06shake

Yeeh a sad story .....both countries suffer a lot

Sadly Putin has ordered to teach propaganda to very young children, they brainwash the next generation thinking those will be good to send in to war...which is why NATO will allways need to exist .

a reply to: Kenzo

Sadly Putin has ordered to teach propaganda to very young children, they brainwash the next generation thinking those will be good to send in to war.

Yeah, RT's opening post is a prime example of this, alter the actual historal facts and twist them to an agenda that suits.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I agree that we have no strong and decisive leaders any more.
Our politicians lack vision, moral purpose and a sense of duty.

And that has allowed Putin to flourish.

Times change though and the world today is a very different place to that of Bismark's era.

No-one wants to destroy Russia RT, far from it.
People just want it to stop bullying its neighbours who no longer share your vision of a Greater Russia, they want independence, peace, security and prosperity.

The reason the Soviet Union broke up is because these people were sick of Russian domination - they simply don't want it.

Russia has every right to be masters of its own destiny.....but so do other nations.

Going to read the rest of the thread now.

a reply to: Kurokage

The population is morally degraded In Russia . This is from Anton Gerashchenko :

Dark times breed dark and scary people.

The mental field for terrorism in the Russian Federation has been prepared - by propaganda, war, violence, indifference. The population is morally degraded.

It is impossible to attack another country, destroy it, do inhumane things, kill and torture neighbors, and yet live and be in an atmosphere of mental health and safety.

In dark times, a sufficient number of aggressive, disillusioned people, psychopaths who have nothing to lose and are vulnerable to religious motives, fanaticism, easy money, or a combination of everything together, emerge.

They are thrill seekers, have sociopathic tendencies, and lack a mature prefrontal cortex. In a war, they are called "cannon fodder," in and out of war they become murderers, rapists, and sometimes terrorists.

Terrorists believe they are driven by ideology, but anthropologists, historians, and sociologists convincingly prove that terror is linked to dark times of violent human upheaval, mass migrations, wars, and conflicts.

In such times, the human genome produces aggressive psychopathic megalomaniacs who crave more power, more wealth, more influence, more everything, and yet have no moral constraints.

We also see that a great number of former prisoners were released in Russia after the war in Ukraine started. They became even scarier, committed terrible war crimes, and returned to Russia.

Therefore, I believe that the wave of crime and terror in Russia is on the rise. This country has fallen into barbarism and is returning to those terrible times.

This is not gloating by any means. This is a terrible and dangerous situation for all civilized humanity when pockets of barbarism and violence are growing and destroying humanity itself.

Anton Gerashchenko

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RussianTroll



No-one wants to destroy Russia RT, far from it.

Crocus City. Is not it so?

a reply to: RussianTroll

No-one in 'the west'.

Islamic extremists carried out that horrific attack.

Its pretty pathetic - but very predictable - that Putin and his goons are trying to spin it so that he absolves himself of all responsibility for his negligence and tries to apportion blame on Ukraine and 'the west' etc.
Or maybe he deliberately turned a blind eye?

You should be angry about the attack RT.....but direct your anger where its deserved and not where your Glorious Leader instructs you to.

Quite telling that you fail to respond to the rest of my post.

a reply to: RussianTroll

ISIS has it in for us, too, and has attacked my country many times.

Point is, no country or countries want to destroy you, even though you apparently want to nuke us into oblivion.

a reply to: Freeborn

Continue to believe this fairy tale told to you by Western propaganda.
Russians don't believe in this. Moreover, there are no more red lines. For starters, Budanov is a corpse.
Already a corpse.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Whilst you believe the fairytales your Beloved Leader tells you.

Your unwavering and unquestioning obedience and loyalty are noted and I'm sure you'll be rewarded....but at what cost to your soul RT?

a reply to: RussianTroll

Speaking of fairy tales.

Your fake Otto von Bismarck mumbo-jumbo rhetoric ticks that box.

Caught out a dancer really.

And yet not a peep by way of an admission of guilt or apology.

How very "Putinesque" of you.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Freeborn

Continue to believe this fairy tale told to you by Western propaganda.
Russians don't believe in this. Moreover, there are no more red lines. For starters, Budanov is a corpse.

I see you no longer want to talk about the thread you created and instead vent about the terrorist attack. Like most of your threads you end up hating on the west.
I see you have nothing to add about your Russian altered Bismark comments....

a reply to: RussianTroll

Only Putins inner circle push the lie that Ukraine is involved with the Crokus , and even they know it`s lie....ISIS did the attack but " "Never let a Good crisis go to waste" thinks Vlad

Putin’s entourage does not believe Ukraine is involved in the Crocus terrorist attack – Bloomberg

a reply to: Freeborn

There is NO point in talking to a person who thinks in templates taken from Western propaganda media.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Continue to believe this fairy tale told to you by Western propaganda.

Putin now says it was Islamic extremists but is still trying to tie in Ukraine and the West as co-conspirators , which even Kremlin officials don't believe it would seem.

The president acknowledged late Monday that Islamist militants carried out the attack but told officials in televised comments that “we are interested in who ordered it.”

Islamic State don't take orders , or requests , from the West.

Today Lukashenko shot down Putin's claim the terrorists were heading for Ukraine.

Yet even his closest ally, Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko, appeared to undercut Putin’s claim that the suspects were trying to escape to Ukraine.

Lukashenko told reporters Tuesday that the suspects first headed for Belarus until they saw that border security had been tightened “so they turned away and went toward” Ukraine instead, the state-run Belta news service reported.
www.bloomberg.com...

Of course you are free to continue to believe this fairy tale told by your Dictator.