Noahs Ark and the Biblical World Wide Flood Never Happened

The conspiracy - the Biblical Noahs Ark and world wide flood story is still believed and taught by some people even today even though it has been disproven scientifically, historically, and through archeology. The biblical story tells of a man named Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their three wives, being the sole survivors of a flood that covered the world 4,000 years ago and destroyed all life ... all humans, all animals, all fish and aquatic life, all plants, and all fresh water and ocean water hopelessly polluted and 'killed'. Science has disproven the story. Archeology has disproven the story. History has disproven the story. Common sense has disproven the story. Yet some still claim it happened as a fact.

National Center for Science Education - The Impossible Voyage of Noahs Ark
The ark was roughly half the size of the Titanic. Ship building skills at that time couldn't pull it off. Additionally, Noah and his sons had no ship building skills at all. They could not have fallen the trees, gathered and created the lumber, and built the ark in the time allowed. By the time they got to a new section to work on, the previous section would have rotted away. The amount of pitch needed to cover the ark wasn't available.

Noah and his family were not wildlife experts and had no idea how to properly transport animals and how to build cages proper for each animals special needs.There wasn't enough room for all the animals, their food, their fresh water. There are 8.7 million species of animal in the world including over a million species of insects. (Although this site puts the required number of species at 3,858,920). They and their food and water requirements would not have all fit on the ark. Heck, they couldn't GET to the ark living on the other side of the planet and having oceans between them and the ark. Some even have specific food requirements that can only be found in their part of the world. Also sensitive temperature and climate requirements. Many animals need a colony to reproduce - like bees. And what about the parasites? Hundreds of thousands of species are known. They all would have had to have been on animals on the ark, but that would have been detrimental to the animals.

The environment provided by the deluge waters would have hopelessly polluted fresh and salt water, killing every fish and aquatic animal on the planet. Also, the temperature sensitive fish and aquatic animals wouldn't have survived the massive water temperature change, nor the salinity of the oceans being substantially affected by the flood. All plants and their seeds would have drown and been squashed by the weight of the water. No plants and a dead ocean means no oxygen and that means a dead planet. That also kills the future food supply for people and animals.

The ethnic complexity found throughout the world cannot be derived from the flood survivors in the few centuries since that time. DNA and ethnic diversity shows we didn't all come from these six people 4,000 years ago. Impossible. We have ancient civilizations in Egypt, India and China that have an unbroken history dating back to well before the flood was supposed to have happened. Languages in those parts of the world with unbroken history through those time periods. Archeology and history show this.

And what about the water? The water that came up from the Earth but only 1.7% of the earth's water is stored underground. There wasn't enough in the Earth to be able to cover the entire Earth over the highest mountains. Not even if you add in water from the atmosphere. And when it supposedly retreated ... where did it go? Again, there isn't enough room inside the Earth to accommodate all that water that would have been required. Read Here

There is ZERO evidence that a world wide flood happened 4,000 years ago, covering the highest mountains and killing everyone and everything. In fact, the evidence is all negative against the Noahs Ark Biblical flood story... proving it did NOT happen.

Where the myth came from -

Arizona.edu - Forget About Noahs Ark, There was no World Wide Flood

Most biblical and ancient Near Eastern scholars argue that the flood is a mythical story adopted from earlier Mesopotamian flood accounts. These earlier accounts include the 17th century BCE Sumerian flood myth Eridu Genesis,[5] the 18th century BCE Akkadian Atra-Hasis Epic,[6] and the Epic of Gilgamesh,[7] which are some of the earliest known examples of a literary style of writing. The most complete version of the Epic of Gilgamesh known today is preserved on 12 clay tablets from the library of Assyrian king Ashurbanipal (685-627 BCE). This extant Akkadian version is derived from earlier Sumerian versions. In the story, Gilgamesh and his companion, a wild man-beast named Enkidu, travel the world on a number of quests that ultimately displease the gods. After the death of Enkidu, Gilgamesh embarks on a journey to learn the secret of eternal life by visiting the immortal flood hero, Utnapishtim. Utnapishtim tells Gilgamesh how the god Ea (equivalent to the Sumerian god Enki) revealed the gods' plan to destroy all life with a great flood, and how they instructed him to build a vessel in which he could save his family, friends, and livestock. After the flood, the gods repented for destroying the world and made Utnapishtim immortal.

These flood stories appear to have been transmitted to the Israelites early in Israel's history. Contact between the Assyrians and the Israelites is known from the conquest of Israel and its capitol, Samaria, in 721 BCE by Assyrian King Shalmaneser V (727-722 BCE),[8] and from the attempted conquest of Jerusalem by the Assyrian King Sennacherib (704-681 BCE). These stories were apparently modified to conform to a monotheistic faith, but retained characteristics such as the destruction of nearly all living things via a flood, the salvation of a select few people and animals by the construction of a boat, and the regret of the deity for the flood, prompting a promise not to do so again. Thus, like many of the early stories in Israel's primordial history,[9] the flood story appears to be an adaptation and integration of a previously known myth into the theology of Israel.

Evidence in the Rocks that Noahs Flood Did Not Happen - 21 Reasons

5,000 year old tree - Would Have Died if Noahs Flood Had Taken Place

Oldest Civilizations in the World - Unbroken Civilization Through Noahs Ark Time Period - Not Wiped Out

a reply to: FlyersFan

I think it's likely that the flood stories came from the Younger Dryas period.

Ice core samples and glaciers. More evidence.
No flood layer in the core sample. No floating away of ice sheet.

Ice Corp and Glacers Read Here

Recently an ice core nearly two miles long has been extracted from the Greenland ice sheet. The first 110,000 annual layers of snow in that ice core (GISP2) have been visually counted and corroborated by two to three different and independent methods as well as by correlation with volcanic eruptions and other datable events. Since the ice sheet would have floated away in the event of a global flood, the ice core is strong evidence that there was no global flood any time in the last 110,000 years.

originally posted by: watchitburn
I think it's likely that the flood stories came from the Younger Dryas period.

Could be.
Local floods. Regional. Get mythological in size by the retelling of the stories.
Then get 'borrowed' by other cultures and changed to fit their own narrative.

In Chan Thomas' book 'The Adam and Eve Story' he tells of a great cataclysm when an asteroid hit the earth, causing a world-wide tsunami that washed over the earth.

There's little doubt the Biblical version of a world-wide flood was taken from much older legends. From the creation of Adam and Eve to present day covers a little less than 8,000 years, yet the history of earth proves that to be in error as earth-and mankind have been here far longer.

It seems we've always been a fear-based society and organized religion took full advantage by creating a boogieman to terrify us.

Here's a link to a PDF of his book:
[www.docdroid.net...]


It's a fairly short read for open-minded people who like to think outside the box.

The Noah story is based on earlier Mesopotamian stories - the latter of which emphasis terrific winds, thunder and lightning and rising sea waters, as well as rain. Exactly what you'd expect when a tropical cyclone makes landfall ..... IMO the original event that inspired the tales was exactly that.

Meanwhile, Noah didn't even a boat - he built a wooden box! An ark is a wooden box used to carry/protect precious items. It only came to also mean a type of boat thousands of years later as a result of the Noah story.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

I enjoy Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson's theories and research into that period.

originally posted by: nugget1
In Chan Thomas' book 'The Adam and Eve Story' he tells of a great cataclysm when an asteroid hit the earth, causing a world-wide tsunami that washed over the earth.

And if you believe that you'll believe Noah and his family and all the spiny anteaters and walruses and fire ants he took with him into his wooden box were the only creatures to survive ....

The Noahs Ark Myth Makes No Sense According to Science

That’s a massive ship, obviously. And it needed to be. Its purpose was to accommodate two members of every single species on the planet—millions of animals, plants, and fungi. The interiors had to be build accordingly. The task was more monumental than building any of the known wonders of the world, especially since wonders took many hundreds of years to build with thousands upon thousands of people working on it. For the ark, four people had to build it in less than a century, according to Genesis. Noah and his three sons supposedly built it in 82 years. Four people. To build a structure comparable in complexity and scale as the Pyramids of Egypt.

Even if thousands collaborated to build the massive structure, 82 years is still both a long and a short time to effectively finish the task. It’s too short because the ship is so big and complex and gathering the materials alone would have taken many decades, that it’s hard to believe it took less than half a millennium. And it’s too long because, as is usually the problem in wood shipbuilding, by the time the later layers of the ark were placed, the earlier wooden pieces would’ve rotten away already.

Lots more at this site. Including that ships of wood couldn't be made that large. They would have been torn apart by their own weight. The question of why did people go back to simple canoes and simple ships if they had all that ship building knowledge? It just disappeared? At least 8 million species of animals, meaning around 20 million animals, would have to have fit on the ship, and they couldn't. No tangible traces of this incredible even were left behind. It all disappeared. Species re-evolved to their current state as if nothing had happened in just a little while. The seas receded without leaving a scar.

TOO FEW GENES - Second, all animals, humans included, require genetic variation to survive. Human genes were reduced to just the lineage of Noah and his wife—a single line. The same for all other animals, if we take the tale literally. That’s absurd. All in all, conservation experts estimate that it takes a minimum of 50 organisms of a single lineage for it to survive, depending on the species. And even that is debatable. 50 leaves no room for error; if only a few were to die, say, by hitting their head after violent winds rocked the ark (which must’ve happened), then that’s that. And that’s with 50. Two is simply impossible. In fact, many biologists argue we’d need around 150 specimens to account for minor incidents—and far more to account for severe situations.

a reply to: AndyMayhew

In the opening post I gave some history on where the myth probably came from.

Where the myth came from -

Arizona.edu - Forget About Noahs Ark, There was no World Wide Flood

Most biblical and ancient Near Eastern scholars argue that the flood is a mythical story adopted from earlier Mesopotamian flood accounts. These earlier accounts include the 17th century BCE Sumerian flood myth Eridu Genesis,[5] the 18th century BCE Akkadian Atra-Hasis Epic,[6] and the Epic of Gilgamesh,[7] which are some of the earliest known examples of a literary style of writing. The most complete version of the Epic of Gilgamesh known today is preserved on 12 clay tablets from the library of Assyrian king Ashurbanipal (685-627 BCE). This extant Akkadian version is derived from earlier Sumerian versions. In the story, Gilgamesh and his companion, a wild man-beast named Enkidu, travel the world on a number of quests that ultimately displease the gods. After the death of Enkidu, Gilgamesh embarks on a journey to learn the secret of eternal life by visiting the immortal flood hero, Utnapishtim. Utnapishtim tells Gilgamesh how the god Ea (equivalent to the Sumerian god Enki) revealed the gods' plan to destroy all life with a great flood, and how they instructed him to build a vessel in which he could save his family, friends, and livestock. After the flood, the gods repented for destroying the world and made Utnapishtim immortal.

These flood stories appear to have been transmitted to the Israelites early in Israel's history. Contact between the Assyrians and the Israelites is known from the conquest of Israel and its capitol, Samaria, in 721 BCE by Assyrian King Shalmaneser V (727-722 BCE),[8] and from the attempted conquest of Jerusalem by the Assyrian King Sennacherib (704-681 BCE). These stories were apparently modified to conform to a monotheistic faith, but retained characteristics such as the destruction of nearly all living things via a flood, the salvation of a select few people and animals by the construction of a boat, and the regret of the deity for the flood, prompting a promise not to do so again. Thus, like many of the early stories in Israel's primordial history,[9] the flood story appears to be an adaptation and integration of a previously known myth into the theology of Israel.

We today have an Ark, with DNA samples from nearly all life forms on the planet.

Don't know why people don't believe the story, when it's right in front us.

And it was over 5000 years ago.

I think people are placing it at more like 12000.

I believe there was a cataclysm.

a reply to: AndyMayhew

Have you seen how fire ants make rafts to survive flooding? It's pretty cool.

a reply to: FlyersFan

The biblical flood story was taken from much older stories such as the Epics of Atrahasis or Gilgamesh...

Most biblical and ancient Near Eastern scholars argue that the flood is a mythical story adopted from earlier Mesopotamian flood accounts. These earlier accounts include the 17th century BCE Sumerian flood myth Eridu Genesis,[5] the 18th century BCE Akkadian Atra-Hasis Epic,[6] and the Epic of Gilgamesh,[7] which are some of the earliest known examples of a literary style of writing.

...and those stories could be from as far back as 12,900 years ago, give or take.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I've never thought that the "Worldwide" Flood happened. It's possible that where the story was told that it could have been a flood on a fairly large scale, but contained within that region. The ARK could've been a regular sized boat containing a few farm animals that got blown out of proportion over the years

the Noah Flood Myth was intended for the 12 Tribes of Israel people, in a my God is more powerful than your God statement

just the same way the 2012 End of Age era was intended specifically for Maya heritage peoples and not the worlds diverse populations

the TORAH & POPUL VOH are 'sacred' for those peoples only...the prophecies are targeted for those lineage of humans not everyone else combined...


POV commentary/opinion of StUdio Victoras

a reply to: Klassified

In the opening post I gave some history on where the myth probably came from.

Where the myth came from -

Arizona.edu - Forget About Noahs Ark, There was no World Wide Flood

Most biblical and ancient Near Eastern scholars argue that the flood is a mythical story adopted from earlier Mesopotamian flood accounts. These earlier accounts include the 17th century BCE Sumerian flood myth Eridu Genesis,[5] the 18th century BCE Akkadian Atra-Hasis Epic,[6] and the Epic of Gilgamesh,[7] which are some of the earliest known examples of a literary style of writing. The most complete version of the Epic of Gilgamesh known today is preserved on 12 clay tablets from the library of Assyrian king Ashurbanipal (685-627 BCE). This extant Akkadian version is derived from earlier Sumerian versions. In the story, Gilgamesh and his companion, a wild man-beast named Enkidu, travel the world on a number of quests that ultimately displease the gods. After the death of Enkidu, Gilgamesh embarks on a journey to learn the secret of eternal life by visiting the immortal flood hero, Utnapishtim. Utnapishtim tells Gilgamesh how the god Ea (equivalent to the Sumerian god Enki) revealed the gods' plan to destroy all life with a great flood, and how they instructed him to build a vessel in which he could save his family, friends, and livestock. After the flood, the gods repented for destroying the world and made Utnapishtim immortal.

These flood stories appear to have been transmitted to the Israelites early in Israel's history. Contact between the Assyrians and the Israelites is known from the conquest of Israel and its capitol, Samaria, in 721 BCE by Assyrian King Shalmaneser V (727-722 BCE),[8] and from the attempted conquest of Jerusalem by the Assyrian King Sennacherib (704-681 BCE). These stories were apparently modified to conform to a monotheistic faith, but retained characteristics such as the destruction of nearly all living things via a flood, the salvation of a select few people and animals by the construction of a boat, and the regret of the deity for the flood, prompting a promise not to do so again. Thus, like many of the early stories in Israel's primordial history,[9] the flood story appears to be an adaptation and integration of a previously known myth into the theology of Israel.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I should have used quotes from what you had already posted. I did read your reference material. My point was how old those stories may be. I'll do better next time.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Problem with your argument from authority is it’s easy to dismiss your authority
Dismissed
As a Christian, never really believed in a literal Noah’s Ark, but now, kinda seen enough evidence to change my mind
Believe as you wish, just want to point out your argument is easily dismissed based on “scientists”

I havent seen the reference in years, but I remember reading that the story in our DNA says that sometime in the past, humans were reduced to just a few thousands individuals. We nearly went extinct.

I immediately thought of the flood.

I personally do not believe in a "biblical flood and the ark", but every ancient civilization talks about a flood, meaning that something epic did happen and it was witnessed all over the earth.

Like already somebody point out, it could have been the ice age coming to an end and the melting of glaciers.