Can Men Play in Womens Sports? White House Dodges the Question saying it's 'Complicated'.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone

Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.

wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,

Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).

Neuroscience in transgender people: an update

Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.

What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?

There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.

Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?

Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.

Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.

Where is your source for that?

I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.

Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.

What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?

The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.

There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?

Let's put it this way there is proof of hormonal factors affecting brain structure changes during transgendered people's brains during the fetal stage.

So drugs can have an effect of a foetus in this regard.

No this happens to the transgendered person during their brain's fetal development stage, no drugs involved.

Drugs in our environment.

Why rule anything out?

Because men believing they're women and vice versa is abnormal maybe?

That may be the case for some not all, again generalizations.

How is pointing out that some people have mental problems a generalisation? If a man believes he's a woman then by definition he has a mental problem.

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone

Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.

wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,

Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).

Neuroscience in transgender people: an update

Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.

What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?

There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.

Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?

Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.

Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.

Where is your source for that?

I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.

Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.

What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?

The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.

There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?

Let's put it this way there is proof of hormonal factors affecting brain structure changes during transgendered people's brains during the fetal stage.

So drugs can have an effect of a foetus in this regard.

No this happens to the transgendered person during their brain's fetal development stage, no drugs involved.

Drugs in our environment.

Why rule anything out?

Because men believing they're women and vice versa is abnormal maybe?

That may be the case for some not all, again generalizations.

How is pointing out that some people have mental problems a generalisation? If a man believes he's a woman then by definition he has a mental problem.

Because some of the cases are due to mental illness and some have no mental illness but still present the same. Others may be born that way.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone

Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.

wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,

Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).

Neuroscience in transgender people: an update

Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.

What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?

There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.

Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?

Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.

Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.

Where is your source for that?

I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.

Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.

What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?

The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.

There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?

Let's put it this way there is proof of hormonal factors affecting brain structure changes during transgendered people's brains during the fetal stage.

So drugs can have an effect of a foetus in this regard.

No this happens to the transgendered person during their brain's fetal development stage, no drugs involved.

Drugs in our environment.

Why rule anything out?

Because men believing they're women and vice versa is abnormal maybe?

That may be the case for some not all, again generalizations.

How is pointing out that some people have mental problems a generalisation? If a man believes he's a woman then by definition he has a mental problem.

Because some of the cases are due to mental illness and some have no mental illness but still present the same. Others may be born that way.

Believing you are of a different sex to the sex you were born is mental illness.

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone

Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.

wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,

Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).

Neuroscience in transgender people: an update

Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.

What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?

There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.

Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?

Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.

Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.

Where is your source for that?

I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.

Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.

What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?

The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.

There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?

Let's put it this way there is proof of hormonal factors affecting brain structure changes during transgendered people's brains during the fetal stage.

So drugs can have an effect of a foetus in this regard.

No this happens to the transgendered person during their brain's fetal development stage, no drugs involved.

Drugs in our environment.

Why rule anything out?

Because men believing they're women and vice versa is abnormal maybe?

That may be the case for some not all, again generalizations.

How is pointing out that some people have mental problems a generalisation? If a man believes he's a woman then by definition he has a mental problem.

Because some of the cases are due to mental illness and some have no mental illness but still present the same. Others may be born that way.

Believing you are of a different sex to the sex you were born is mental illness.

Not according to the experts.

The left will have us all agreeing with schizophrenics telling them that the voices in their heads are real.


I wonder when we'll start seeing anorexic girls getting liposuction as well.



. . . . . . . .

This is a mental illness, not the poor souls who are being groomed, but those on the left that are perpetuating this social disfunction on society.

Whether it's a perverse sickness on their part or deliberate evil is still up to debate.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone

Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.

wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,

Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).

Neuroscience in transgender people: an update

Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.

What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?

There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.

Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?

Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.

Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.

Where is your source for that?

I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.

Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.

What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?

The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.

There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?

Let's put it this way there is proof of hormonal factors affecting brain structure changes during transgendered people's brains during the fetal stage.

So drugs can have an effect of a foetus in this regard.

No this happens to the transgendered person during their brain's fetal development stage, no drugs involved.

Drugs in our environment.

Why rule anything out?

Because men believing they're women and vice versa is abnormal maybe?

That may be the case for some not all, again generalizations.

How is pointing out that some people have mental problems a generalisation? If a man believes he's a woman then by definition he has a mental problem.

Because some of the cases are due to mental illness and some have no mental illness but still present the same. Others may be born that way.

Believing you are of a different sex to the sex you were born is mental illness.

Not according to the experts.

And the experts who say that it is mental illness? On one hand we have experts who have conclude that transgenderism is in fact a mental illness and experts who believe that it isn't. So what's a person to think? think for yourself is the answer.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: quintessentone

Childhoods is about games and plays... so you really think if boy dress up like a woman he is a woman? Role playing is normal. My brother had fun time once when he put dress on and played, he is straight with 5 children and childhood was just a childhoods play. My son found my halloween costume and wig and put them on, had fun playing and even today when i watch these photos i took of him playing with costume gives me happy thoughts, he actually looked like a girl.. he didn´t magically transformed to woman either. My hubby used this same wig in a day we were moving to our new home , He looked ridiculous loading household stuff in a car.. people saw and laughted at him... that was his sense of humour..

Everyone loves to play.. it does not magically change gender...

You failed to answer to my other post.. why ?

That's not the issue, the issue is if they feel the same way into puberty and beyond.

If that is a issue into puberty and beyond, you just made my point ! So testosterone keeps building up in born as a male body, testosterone is the hormone which makes born as male stronger, faster and have other benefits too compared to born as females.. even if born male stops taking testosterone he has that benefit still as his body was shaped biologically as a male and there is still testosterone even they have stopped using it.. What kind of fairness is that ????

First you were talking about how they feel being a woman as a child and now into puberty and beyond.. can you make up your mind ?

You see through your binoculars through the crap people talk.. time to look at the mirror !

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone

Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.

wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,

Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).

Neuroscience in transgender people: an update

Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.

What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?

There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.

Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?

Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.

Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.

Where is your source for that?

I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.

Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.

What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?

The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.

There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?

Let's put it this way there is proof of hormonal factors affecting brain structure changes during transgendered people's brains during the fetal stage.

So drugs can have an effect of a foetus in this regard.

No this happens to the transgendered person during their brain's fetal development stage, no drugs involved.

Drugs in our environment.

Why rule anything out?

Because men believing they're women and vice versa is abnormal maybe?

That may be the case for some not all, again generalizations.

How is pointing out that some people have mental problems a generalisation? If a man believes he's a woman then by definition he has a mental problem.

Because some of the cases are due to mental illness and some have no mental illness but still present the same. Others may be born that way.

Believing you are of a different sex to the sex you were born is mental illness.

Not according to the experts.

And the experts who say that it is mental illness? On one hand we have experts who have conclude that transgenderism is in fact a mental illness and experts who believe that it isn't. So what's a person to think? think for yourself is the answer.

Do your own research never let your mind tell you the facts because we are all bias' to certain extents.

originally posted by: dollukka

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: quintessentone

Childhoods is about games and plays... so you really think if boy dress up like a woman he is a woman? Role playing is normal. My brother had fun time once when he put dress on and played, he is straight with 5 children and childhood was just a childhoods play. My son found my halloween costume and wig and put them on, had fun playing and even today when i watch these photos i took of him playing with costume gives me happy thoughts, he actually looked like a girl.. he didn´t magically transformed to woman either. My hubby used this same wig in a day we were moving to our new home , He looked ridiculous loading household stuff in a car.. people saw and laughted at him... that was his sense of humour..

Everyone loves to play.. it does not magically change gender...

You failed to answer to my other post.. why ?

That's not the issue, the issue is if they feel the same way into puberty and beyond.

If that is a issue into puberty and beyond, you just made my point ! So testosterone keeps building up in born as a male body, testosterone is the hormone which makes born as male stronger, faster and have other benefits too compared to born as females.. even if born male stops taking testosterone he has that benefit still as his body was shaped biologically as a male and there is still testosterone even they have stopped using it.. What kind of fairness is that ????

First you were talking about how they feel being a woman as a child and now into puberty and beyond.. can you make up your mind ?

You see through your binoculars through the crap people talk.. time to look at the mirror !

We were discussing role playing not being diagnosed with gender dysphoria which requires medical intervention if the child is in crisis. Gender dysphoria generally starts at age 7 so from the age of 7 to puberty if they still express or present in the same manner then at the puberty stage steps should be taken to investigate the matter.

Now we are on to a whole other topic about testosterone.

This is where the complications arise, if the child is given puberty blockers before puberty does that eliminate the male advantages and if given hormone replacement therapies are testosterone levels equal to that of girls/women's levels. This is where existing studies are now and it's complicated believe me.

a reply to: quintessentone

I thought the topic was "Can Men Play in Womens Sports" so my answer fits fine in this .. You make all kind of excuses why they should be let to compete in female sports... first you talk about how they feel as female as a child etc and should be let to do that.. you seem to keep changing all kind of aspects of this matter regarding how you have been played out..

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: quintessentone

I thought the topic was "Can Men Play in Womens Sports" so my answer fits fine in this .. You make all kind of excuses why they should be let to compete in female sports... first you talk about how they feel as female as a child etc and should be let to do that.. you seem to keep changing all kind of aspects of this matter regarding how you have been played out..

We are jumping from subject to subject, so if you want to stay on topic then stay on topic.

It is ultimately up to the sporting agencies to make those determinations but they need to back up their decisions with hard facts/science and as of today they are still not sure what is going on with this.

2020:

www.aclu.org...

2021:

bjsm.bmj.com...

2022:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

2023:

Research into trans athletes across different sports is still relatively new and under examined.

Trans women's muscular advantage falls by about 5% after a year of testosterone-suppressing treatment, according to a review of existing research by the University of Manchester and Sweden's Karolinska Institute.

Tommy Lundberg, who co-authored the study, said male athletes gain their 30% muscular advantages during puberty, but there are no studies of trans adolescents who could take puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones before puberty finishes.

www.openlynews.com...

So far it looks like transwomen retain advantages received during puberty and retain them. So it's up to the sports agencies to act upon the science.

What about trans adolescents who took puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones before puberty finished? I'd like to see the science on that.

originally posted by: quintessentone

What about trans adolescents who took puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones before puberty finished? I'd like to see the science on that.

!!!
Did you ever have a thought about time before puberty, how old is young enough to have puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones to you? Why we ever should have such a scientific study on that ?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: dandandat2
Yes men can play in women's sports.

In fact the archaic segregation of Men and Women's sports divisions should be done away with all together. And everyone should compete equally.

That has never been the case and you forgot the /sarc after your post.

Who said that removal of segregated sports programs was "the case"; I am arguing that it ought to be "the case".

I am not being sarcastic. What from my statement would mead you to believe I was being sarcastic?

I have accepted the argument that men and women are equal. And because they are equal there is no need to segregate men and women from competing against each other in sports.

Do you disagree that men and women are equal when it comes to sporting events?

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: dandandat2
Yes men can play in women's sports.

In fact the archaic segregation of Men and Women's sports divisions should be done away with all together. And everyone should compete equally.

That has never been the case and you forgot the /sarc after your post.

Who said that removal of segregated sports programs was "the case"; I am arguing that it ought to be "the case".

I am not being sarcastic. What from my statement would mead you to believe I was being sarcastic?

I have accepted the argument that men and women are equal. And because they are equal there is no need to segregate men and women from competing against each other in sports.

Do you disagree that men and women are equal when it comes to sporting events?

Yes, I do if the science and testing reveals that transfolk have retained physical advantages gained at puberty that would give them an unfair advantage in a specific sport. Now the question is do transfolk who transition before puberty still retain those advantages?

a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, lets Dr. Mengele this crap and just experiment on pre-teens.

*Gods!*

Do you read what you post, or does a pigeon eat seeds across your keyboard?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, lets Dr. Mengele this crap and just experiment on pre-teens.

*Gods!*

Do you read what you post, or does a pigeon eat seeds across your keyboard?

This is the reality out in the real world, deal with or don't but it's none of your business either way.

Any politician who cannot state what a "women" is, whether they say it's an adult human female, or some guy in a frock, cannot be trusted. Farting on with words that say nothing, just exposes how pointless they are. How bereft of honesty.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, lets Dr. Mengele this crap and just experiment on pre-teens.

*Gods!*

Do you read what you post, or does a pigeon eat seeds across your keyboard?

This is the reality out in the real world, deal with or don't but it's none of your business either way.

The hell it isn't!

Did you just tell me to shut up and mind my own business when you alluded to experimenting on children?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, lets Dr. Mengele this crap and just experiment on pre-teens.

*Gods!*

Do you read what you post, or does a pigeon eat seeds across your keyboard?

This is the reality out in the real world, deal with or don't but it's none of your business either way.

Are you somekind of bot ? OF course it is business of all of us. This involves huge amount of people just like it involved huge amount of people in Nazi camps. These are crimes against humanity.. it is our business.

Are you a God ?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, lets Dr. Mengele this crap and just experiment on pre-teens.

*Gods!*

Do you read what you post, or does a pigeon eat seeds across your keyboard?

This is the reality out in the real world, deal with or don't but it's none of your business either way.

The hell it isn't!

Did you just tell me to shut up and mind my own business when you alluded to experimenting on children?

The constitution is telling you to shut up and mind your own business.