Oregon gov’t student health survey asks 11-year-olds if they are trans

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

All the F given are for free...

a reply to: Terpene

history really..

the English spent 400 years taking their poorest kids sometimes just cleansing the streets of the poor and then shipping them all over the world to be abused and used as slave labour as well as fill those places with white faces, the Americans had their trains the Canadians and Aussies their schools.. but they where all mostly stolen generations..

when you stack it all up who in their right mind would trust todays establishment when a lot of these abuses only stopped as recently as the 1970s, the first 100 of these children's where sent to the Virginia colony just before the first slave ship..

given the timelines there are some interesting historical analysis like this one one history of child custody in Virginia

in terms of early American settlements some sound straight out of "lord of the flies" but who would trust governments with such poor histories of treating kids with todays generation of kids..

a reply to: jerryznv

Everyone look over the survey and we all can plainly see that it's not just about sexual identity, it's about everything.

It is a survey, not a test, the child needs not put their name or any other identifying information on it. It seems to be for statistical and educational purposes only. The young people are having great difficulty navigating this crazy world and need as much help as possible, and we can't give them the help they need if we don't know what they are experiencing.

Most importantly, don't we want to know if our children feel safe at school and elsewhere, if they are being abused, if they have a drug problem, if they are bullied? Now mostly boys are targeted online in sexploitation scams and some are so distraught and have nowhere or nobody to go to for help, that they are committing suicide. Some questions on the survey ask if they have anybody in their life that they can go to for help, isn't this the most important thing to know?

And if you look on the footer or each page it says they DO NOT have to answer any question if they don't want to.

As well, one of the questions has them choosing which grade (from 6 to 12) they are in, so this questionnaire is geared to all those grades and may be tweaked for each grade.

www.oregon.gov...

originally posted by: quintessentone

Everyone look over the survey and we all can plainly see that it's not just about sexual identity, it's about everything.

Without reading the survey, I'll bet folding money there are no questions along the lines of, "Are you and your family in this country legally?"

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom

originally posted by: quintessentone

Everyone look over the survey and we all can plainly see that it's not just about sexual identity, it's about everything.

Without reading the survey, I'll bet folding money there are no questions along the lines of, "Are you and your family in this country legally?"

How does that question help children navigate their world? It's not about you.

Well, are they trans?

a reply to: KellyClark1965

Well, are they in trouble and have nobody to go to for help, would be the survey's goal.

Actually there is a question along those lines. 2 of them actually.a reply to: VictorVonDoom

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: jerryznv

These are scary.

55. In the past 30 days, did you drive a car or vehicle?

56. In the past 30 days, did you text on a cell phone while driving?

In the 7th grade? What exactly is the minimum driving age in Origon?

This has to be a joke.

If one can drive in the 7th grade , they got "left behind".

Are you reading the 6th grade survey? The OP posted an 11th grade survey too and it's has very much different questions.

originally posted by: AOx6179
Actually there is a question along those lines. 2 of them actually.a reply to: VictorVonDoom

OK, I scanned through both questionnaires in the OP, and I could only see one question that even obliquely comes close, #70 in the 11th grade survey. And I wouldn't pay out on that question because it lumps jail, prison, and deportation in the same category.

If you saw something else, please let me know.

Sometimes I start feeling as if some of these moves in the educational system which are just so out there, bizarre, fringe, antiscientific, so-called progressive, dismantling of gender roles and societal structure, and so on are, in reality, a way for the government to train and then gauge the willingness and likelihood of the upcoming generation to follow the state’s directives, credenda, and dogma derived from and necessary for the implementation and acceptance of the two-class, Marxist, globalist, New World Order...

And most importantly, do the children, indeed, allow it to supersede the fundamental axioms the child’s parents brought them up with.

Not only does it seem they want to convince the children when it’s parents vs state, a good, intelligent, and tolerant non-racist citizen sides with the state, but they infuse emotions and superficial depth into all the related issues as if to actually put the child against a dissenting adult and see them as a bad person or hateful violence inciter.

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originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: jerryznv

Everyone look over the survey and we all can plainly see that it's not just about sexual identity, it's about everything.

It is a survey, not a test, the child needs not put their name or any other identifying information on it. It seems to be for statistical and educational purposes only. The young people are having great difficulty navigating this crazy world and need as much help as possible, and we can't give them the help they need if we don't know what they are experiencing.

Most importantly, don't we want to know if our children feel safe at school and elsewhere, if they are being abused, if they have a drug problem, if they are bullied? Now mostly boys are targeted online in sexploitation scams and some are so distraught and have nowhere or nobody to go to for help, that they are committing suicide. Some questions on the survey ask if they have anybody in their life that they can go to for help, isn't this the most important thing to know?

And if you look on the footer or each page it says they DO NOT have to answer any question if they don't want to.

As well, one of the questions has them choosing which grade (from 6 to 12) they are in, so this questionnaire is geared to all those grades and may be tweaked for each grade.

www.oregon.gov...

So...it's about everything...including sexual identity! Why is that important to the government? Why should a 6th grade kid have to tell anyone that (assuming they even know at that young age)?

I don't think that those questions needed to be included in a "general" survey and it has zero to do with their well being!

originally posted by: KellyClark1965
Well, are they trans?

Interesting question.

Why would it matter and better yet...why do you want to know?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: jerryznv

These are scary.

55. In the past 30 days, did you drive a car or vehicle?

56. In the past 30 days, did you text on a cell phone while driving?

In the 7th grade? What exactly is the minimum driving age in Origon?

This has to be a joke.

If one can drive in the 7th grade , they got "left behind".

Are you reading the 6th grade survey? The OP posted an 11th grade survey too and it's has very much different questions.

Correct!

There are two surveys in the OP...one is the 6th grade survey and the other is the 11th grade survey.

I linked them both for comparison. All of the surveys can be found in the OP link though...they vary a bit from grade to grade!

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: KellyClark1965
Well, are they trans?

Interesting question.

Why would it matter and better yet...why do you want to know?

You may not want to know, but lawmakers and policymakers want to know, that is why they want the data collected. Also the school administrators want to know because of the health and welfare of their LGBTQ+ students and to know how to make schools safe places for everyone.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: KellyClark1965
Well, are they trans?

Interesting question.

Why would it matter and better yet...why do you want to know?

You may not want to know, but lawmakers and policymakers want to know, that is why they want the data collected. Also the school administrators want to know because of the health and welfare of their LGBTQ+ students and to know how to make schools safe places for everyone.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...

Nailed it...lawmakers and policymakers...

How did we not think of this until now...this survey is going to make schools safer? The health and welfare of the LGBTQ+ students is going to change because they are...going to be treated different? Treated the same?

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: KellyClark1965
Well, are they trans?

Interesting question.

Why would it matter and better yet...why do you want to know?

You may not want to know, but lawmakers and policymakers want to know, that is why they want the data collected. Also the school administrators want to know because of the health and welfare of their LGBTQ+ students and to know how to make schools safe places for everyone.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...

Nailed it...lawmakers and policymakers...

How did we not think of this until now...this survey is going to make schools safer? The health and welfare of the LGBTQ+ students is going to change because they are...going to be treated different? Treated the same?

I think that for in the schools they will develop educational tools and who knows maybe find away to deal with the bullies.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: KellyClark1965
Well, are they trans?

Interesting question.

Why would it matter and better yet...why do you want to know?

You may not want to know, but lawmakers and policymakers want to know, that is why they want the data collected. Also the school administrators want to know because of the health and welfare of their LGBTQ+ students and to know how to make schools safe places for everyone.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...

Nailed it...lawmakers and policymakers...

How did we not think of this until now...this survey is going to make schools safer? The health and welfare of the LGBTQ+ students is going to change because they are...going to be treated different? Treated the same?

I think that for in the schools they will develop educational tools and who knows maybe find away to deal with the bullies.

You think a survey asking 6th grade kids their sexual identity/orientation is to curb bullying?

That my friend is a stretch...a long stretch!

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: KellyClark1965
Well, are they trans?

Interesting question.

Why would it matter and better yet...why do you want to know?

You may not want to know, but lawmakers and policymakers want to know, that is why they want the data collected. Also the school administrators want to know because of the health and welfare of their LGBTQ+ students and to know how to make schools safe places for everyone.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...

Nailed it...lawmakers and policymakers...

How did we not think of this until now...this survey is going to make schools safer? The health and welfare of the LGBTQ+ students is going to change because they are...going to be treated different? Treated the same?

I think that for in the schools they will develop educational tools and who knows maybe find away to deal with the bullies.

You think a survey asking 6th grade kids their sexual identity/orientation is to curb bullying?

That my friend is a stretch...a long stretch!

Do you believe that educating children in inclusiveness and diversity won't work to curb ignorance?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: KellyClark1965
Well, are they trans?

Interesting question.

Why would it matter and better yet...why do you want to know?

You may not want to know, but lawmakers and policymakers want to know, that is why they want the data collected. Also the school administrators want to know because of the health and welfare of their LGBTQ+ students and to know how to make schools safe places for everyone.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...

Nailed it...lawmakers and policymakers...

How did we not think of this until now...this survey is going to make schools safer? The health and welfare of the LGBTQ+ students is going to change because they are...going to be treated different? Treated the same?

I think that for in the schools they will develop educational tools and who knows maybe find away to deal with the bullies.

You think a survey asking 6th grade kids their sexual identity/orientation is to curb bullying?

That my friend is a stretch...a long stretch!

Do you believe that educating children in inclusiveness and diversity won't work to curb ignorance?

Well...which is it...curb bullying or curb ignorance?

Which one do you approve of...or is it both?

Remember this survey is asking 6th grade children! Shouldn't children be "ignorant" of some things or are you of the mind that these things need to be taught to children?