Trump says FBI agents raided his Florida home

a reply to: olaru12

Trump Reportedly Seeking Copy Of Search Warrant

Former President Donald Trump is now requesting a copy of the warrant used to justify the raid at his Mar-a-Lago residence. According to a reports, Trump and his legal team are likely to seek a court order forcing the FBI and the Justice Department to provide him with a copy as well as the affidavit.

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What the liberal media is not telling.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

What they are stating it that they did not have access to all. And 12 or so more boxes were hidden and obtained this week.

These boxes were locked in the basement with a double lock
that the FBI had a key to. Then they raid to get into the area
they locked. Explain this, since your you have so many answers.

This link provides more info. So the National Archives tried for months to get some items back as required per the records act. Some was sent back. In those items were some pages of classified info. They told the Justice Department. Counterintelligence visited. There was a subpoena. They recieved some items . They then spoke to 3 of Trump's staffers. They suspected they had not recieved them all. They then determined that they had to act because some of the missing documents were sensitive national security issue related. They also subpoenaed the security footage to see who had been moving in and out of the areas that the suspected documents were hidden. They then obtained a search warrant.

They say some top level GOP allies of Trump have been warned that there is damaging information that will be coming out regarding this.

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I am not making assumptions or ascertations about this. Until evidence is presented, I can only relay what is being said.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

That has not been claimed by anyone except who, Eric? His attorneys know what they were seeking, what they found, and what crime that is believed to have occurred. Hence the distraction from them not releasing the warrant on their own. Monday a request by outside sources goes before the court to unseal it.

JONATHAN TURLEY: The more we learn, the more confusing this gets. What did they possibly tell Reinhardt? Did they relay this history to the magistrate? That, according to these sources, that the president had cooperated. I mean, the idea that he was subject to a subpoena, complied with a subpoena, didn't challenge it, voluntarily showed the storage room to the agents, followed their advice, secured it to meet their demands. All of that is hardly a basis for saying now we need to send in 40 FBI agents on a nighttime raid. I mean, if the subpoena worked the first time, then presumably a second subpoena would work the second time if there were remaining documents that were not gathered up in the first collection. What we have to find out is the details.

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a reply to: marg6043

By law he has a copy of the warrant/ items. He is seeking they unseal the affidavit which lists the crimes he's accused of.

Garland has stressed repeatedly in public statements that the Justice Department speaks within the boundaries of court filings. Customarily in a criminal case, a search warrant and inventory of items seized would only become public after the Justice Department files charges in court — an event that may never come to pass with respect to Trump and his handling of classified documents.

"This matter is one of utmost public interest, involving the actions of current and former government officials," the Times' lawyers added. "President Trump decried the search as an 'assault that could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries,' asserted agents 'even broke into my safe,' and otherwise publicly challenged the validity of the search and governmental action."

Magistrate Judge Bruce E. Reinhart, who approved the search warrant, ordered the Justice Department to respond by August 15.

Trump himself, presumably, has a copy of the warrant and the inventory. And he could wave it around and say, 'Here's what they were looking for, and here's what they took.' But it seems that he would do that if it suited his purposes, and he's not doing that."

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As time passes it is becoming increasingly likely that charges will not be filed against Trump over the classified information he may have been keeping in his home. This is not surprising given the legal murkyness of bringing a president to trial over such a low level issue that he can easily politicaly argue against.

More and more this is looking like a political hit job; a way for the Biden administration to make a political rival look bad before an election. In otherwords Political Persecution.

And what will be their ultimate excuse be when they don't provide a satisfactory answer to the American people for the raid? That they where just trying to protect the former President.

Among them is a desire to "protect the person under investigation" from the taint of a criminal inquiry that might never result in charges, said Barb McQuade, a University of Michigan law professor and former US attorney in Detroit.

a reply to: network dude

They found documents he didn't turn over and that were obviously not with the rest of them. After months of requests and a subpoena. If a subpoena won't make you turn over everything, what will? And they can't search with a subpoena. If he says, all the stuff is right here, they can't go looking for what is hidden. That's why they needed the warrant. He may say he was complying, but they had a belief he was lying, which he was, because they definitely found items this week.

originally posted by: frogs453
It's being reported that there was a grand jury subpoena in June. Which was when the Counterintelligence team went down there to get documents. Some were returned. After speaking with people at MAL it was determined that there were more that were not turned over. Hence a search warrant this time around. They also requested surveillance footage to see who has been accessing the materials.

So they tried to get all the materials in February, June and finally got them with the search warrant in August.

The FBI search at Mar-a-Lago this week came months after federal investigators served an earlier grand jury subpoena and took away sensitive national security documents from former President Donald Trump's property during a June meeting

Link

And after your last word quoted is:

, people familiar with the matter tell CNN.

roflmao but could be true 🤣

a reply to: xuenchen

I've provided other links and there are probably more by now. Pick and choose one you like.

a reply to: frogs453

Sorry Jessica, still no proof at all of any of this 😁

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

They found documents he didn't turn over and that were obviously not with the rest of them. After months of requests and a subpoena. If a subpoena won't make you turn over everything, what will? And they can't search with a subpoena. If he says, all the stuff is right here, they can't go looking for what is hidden. That's why they needed the warrant. He may say he was complying, but they had a belief he was lying, which he was, because they definitely found items this week.

Were this actually the case it would have been reported.
The man farts in public and it is reported.
Were he non compliant with items of national security dems would have been sky screaming again.

Interesting who really supports individual civil rights.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

They found documents he didn't turn over and that were obviously not with the rest of them. After months of requests and a subpoena. If a subpoena won't make you turn over everything, what will? And they can't search with a subpoena. If he says, all the stuff is right here, they can't go looking for what is hidden. That's why they needed the warrant. He may say he was complying, but they had a belief he was lying, which he was, because they definitely found items this week.

Were this actually the case it would have been reported.
The man farts in public and it is reported.
Were he non compliant with items of national security dems would have been sky screaming again.

Interesting who really supports individual civil rights.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: marg6043

By law he has a copy of the warrant/ items. He is seeking they unseal the affidavit which lists the crimes he's accused of.

Show us the Federal law(s) that pertain to sealed Warrants 😎

a reply to: shooterbrody

So because there were no leaks this is false? How about you wait and see the evidence. Maybe instead of "sky screaming" They did what they were supposed to do. Got info from his staff, Surveillance tapes of who may have been accessing the classified info he didn't return, and then listed what crimes they suspect in an affidavit, took it to the judge and then performed a search and recovered the items.

a reply to: xuenchen

Funny enough I used the article posted stating that he was seeking to unseal the warrant to back track to the law.

(C) Receipt. The officer executing the warrant must give a copy of the warrant and a receipt for the property taken to the person from whom, or from whose premises, the property was taken or leave a copy of the warrant and receipt at the place where the officer took the property.

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All aspects and rules for the warrant are in the link. I just snipped the relevant portion.

Again, the affidavit remains sealed. That's so a leak of the crime they think you did and need the search warrant for is not out there.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: shooterbrody

So because there were no leaks this is false? How about you wait and see the evidence. Maybe instead of "sky screaming" They did what they were supposed to do. Got info from his staff, Surveillance tapes of who may have been accessing the classified info he didn't return, and then listed what crimes they suspect in an affidavit, took it to the judge and then performed a search and recovered the items.

Bull crap
It is why the scotus never was will ge making a statement.
They screwed up
They got caught again

Those excuseing such are supporters of tyranny.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Is very clear we are now officially a communist country, and the FBI is the new gestapo working for the communist democrats.

Which is it? Communist or Gestapo?

PLEASE go study history. Communism has never been practiced in ANY country, and the Gestapo was German.

a reply to: Thejaybird

Communism has failed in many countries.

While you're telling others to study history, maybe you should get that one right too.

Jesus Christ! A leftist who still pretends that "legal" things matter. FFS!

Trump is Leftist, important to understand that to begin to understand what is going on.

Sometimes it seems, the communists have turned things so well around so many times,
predicatively play the "democrats vs republicans" (as if they would be different sides in communist or relgious or noble eyes) that now even the smarter ones, again, fall in to forced trap: to counter the leftist "democrats" and is ignored that communist managed to get their guy as "head of Republicans", so people in the Right (on the side of God) are tricked to protect the republicans including trump, making it look like trump is the Right (correct) side.
For their comrades communists long time have left all the hints that anyone would ever need, will it be the trump drag criminal commie tool RUdy or other buddy Epstain, as they had girl slave material networks for dark forces and other special orders. Just because trump is not a faggot does not mean he is the force to cure the darkness, he is darkness play card to waste time and open doors for bad ones.
And so the irony is that there is a lot of democrats who are against that darkness for a correct reasons: because it is dark,
but they are labeled as "democrats" (as a bad way) instead of partner, to battle that evil together.

Republicans or Democrats are not the labels for Left or Right,
they are bought supporters of Republicanism , different kind of reds are hidden in one and another side,
and under red and pentagram-star we mean the commies.
Democrats and Republicans really demand small cosmetic differences, and communist anarchist who are against gov know partly really well, in what they are right about.

Correct labels is are you a Godly person or a anti-god/satanist.
and in political social real: are you a royalist/noble/kingly country direction or a anti-honorable direction that is democrats, communists, republicans, anarchists....

This is the thing, America and Russia Communists has in combination eliminated nearly all kingdoms in past 100 years thast survived, Vietnam Kingdom, Korea Kingdom, Iraq Kingdom... their royal family murdered, bombed, eliminated and these sides in where "west won" newer did so called west or America forces pay attention to strengthen kingdoms and honorable societies. America in many ways wish and do the same that communists or roman empire wanted all along, and when we in western education are unable to realize that, the communists who manipulate America and West, know it well, they know well how to manipulate people in to protecting their own prison and occupiers.

but like we that or not, America whit out a question is vital important Nation or Idea, that we can not let to fall in to more darker hands, it is by far not Lost, and for sure it is not fully communist even if it does seem like 1984 where people are tricked against fake oppositions. The Democrat-Republican border is illusionary and it should be eliminated and focus on to much more realistic labels, and groups (it does not have to be 2 polar sides, as "other" side is not willing to label them self openly "the evil side" anyway. At least there should be sides that people can demand one another to live up to it.

Sooner or later it has to be done anyway as it is not like in 300 years people still have elections between "democrats and republicans", the current differences are as laughable as to make separate fractions between who eat spaghetti and who eat rice.
Even thought small difference there can grow between alcohol nicotine users and sober or psychedelic users,
between vegetarians and dead flash parts eaters , but they still can be in their serving and will on the side of Good and God, just some are potentially logically more easily better then others , but always must remember there can be strategic evil who can specifically imitate the good side inner needs in a way it seems as its not imitation but "nearly making it" up to point of "better then good" .. commies forced many good things on to people for a reason to make next generations rebuke against some behaviors, that in fact are also needed for good to survive. After commie tool Joseph McCarthy en.wikipedia.org... the McCarthyism ensured that no one would be allowed to investigate if they are commie alien or anti human related to red side, and its up to now, the same. This is why Trump was even able to take part of election, as democracy that commies like (and have forced and promoted it over 100 y, yes the democracy is also one thing that communists spread, as it is comfortable power for commies, as it provides SAME way totalitarian power once they aply brainwashing and brain control even in direct rAdio waves way if needed, and partly they do, and not just "Havanna Syndrome" way en.wikipedia.org... )


and no just because someone goes to church in words or hates immorality in words, is not proof enough to know if one is commie or leftie,
for example godly mind sobering plants or substances that heal emotions, remove devils or aliens or communists hypnoses, are by red side tricked by manipulation of church and education (media and law fallows, corporations sponsor) to be appeared as leftist or soft or fun but in truth these many banned soul medicines that humans need are deeply hated by commies and feared by true devils, they do what they can to promote wrong usage of powerful truth explaining plants.

in court for example, people should be under truth serums that all highest army intelligence trusts, but when it comes to ordinary crooks, we let lie skilled lawyers to talk for them, why ?
how not humane it is, to ignore methods that help victim or accuser to speak more from the heart, and instead try to get justice by allowing legal and direct lies, wasting court time and ensuring that people would have understanding; usually wins this one who has better legal defense, finance to back it , truth is secondary , or is it not like that way too often ?


there is plants that will make person talk and that will also make them better top of that, as long these things are outlawed and man still wear tie around a neck, the deep battle is not even half way over.

From leftist trump, is important to first eliminate ALL the Good things he did and say what communist would if they want to imitate Good/Right, now the rest what is left , compare that to some actually honorable person and then it becomes clear the answer, was trump the CHaos Agents tool , bringing america down before America truly can rise up in good potential,

as America truly can stop evils but first one must also understand internally and externally what is actual evils in planetary long history

in some way:
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Please accept what is Left and what is actual Right, from a true Religious or pure Royal point of view.





and under commies we mean human slaving aliens.
or at least, the slaving part for sure.









illusion in communist theater,

a reply to: LunaticPandora

Communism point is not to make communist state or communist system, point is to keep people away from any kind of moral kindly godly natural earth powered human honoring system.


Their failures are camouflage to divert from what they actually do, while victims drink, smoke, sleep around and party not knowing if there is tomorrow and how they should effect it.

Here is some good commie documentary, to look many times, made in to short music video:

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Remember what Actual jews say about WW2 and "nazis" , it was communists vs human spirit, communists against jews, nazis was short manipulated tool,

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And yes, trump is right when he says he is not on the side of nationalist / natzis, and yes, he is also enemy to a jews, who actually understands true real jewsih values not the so called jews, who organized communism.
Yes, he is also right when he says he is not anty gay, and yes, he also might not be a racist; meaning, he does Not care about races protection, meaning he is a commie, anti-racist, whit out values of earth humans, who all value races protection (NOT Hate, but protection of values! This is the core values of judaism, to protect the races (aka being a racist, in communist lingo), that these who pretend they stand for jews, actually deny whole basic core of judaism, ...same whit native Americans and others, acient people from Europe to the other side of russia or iran or Africa and the many Versions of the Whites )

So will FBI find anything from Trump place ?
only these things that these satanist planned/planted to find, as why they even afraid to arrest him on sport and not FBI alone but whit other more trustworthy org from army, intelligence, should have been along in all their family locations same time in sting operation not doing ONE, for a person who has about more then 30 locations on hes name around the world,
ITS LIKE PREVENTING REAL ARREST.. most anti-trup news are actually from communists and planned as protection for their asset
commies easily attack their own assets to protect and use them and manipulate emotions

Some things to think about :


www.businessinsider.com...

www.washingtonpost.com... on/

www.theguardian.com...

www.abc.net.au...

www.abc.net.au...
(yeah, it was search motor fault, "seriously")
www.abc.net.au...

www.republicworld.com...

up to the point of www.rollingstone.com...