Shopping Centre In Kremenchuk Hit By Russian Missile.

a reply to: Grimpachi

In fact. Wasn’t the attack actually 5 or 6 missiles where 2 or three missiles were shot down? What do you call launching large numbers of missiles with poor and inaccurate guidance systems at a large area that includes civilian buildings?

a reply to: neutronflux

In fact. Wasn’t the attack actually 5 or 6 missiles where 2 or three missiles were shot down?

That is the first time I have heard that claim.

If it is a fact you should have no problem posting links.

What do you call launching large numbers of missiles with poor and inaccurate guidance systems at a large area that includes civilian buildings?

Ukrainian SOP as they attack Donetsk daily.

originally posted by: noscopebacon
a reply to: gortex

here is the missile right before impact

doesnt look like a normal russian cruise missile, it looks more like a Paveway lll than a kaliber missile

and it isnt going hypersonic otherwise that camera couldnt have captured it.






strange days in Ukraine

call me crazy the more i look at it it look likes a a 2000lb JDAM

a reply to: Grimpachi

Russians fire 6 Calibre-type missiles on Dnipro from the Black Sea 4 are shot down

Ukrayinska Pravda
Tue, June 28, 2022, 8:43 AM·1 min read

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Dozens Missing After Russian Missile Strike on Mall Kills 18
By Reuters Wire Service Content • June 27, 2022, at 10:11 p.m.

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Dnipropetrovsk regional governor Valentyn Reznychenko wrote on the Telegram app that Russia fired six missiles, three of which were shot down. Railway infrastructure and an industrial enterprise had been destroyed and a services company was burning.

Not clear which attack the missiles were shot down in.

Through incompetence, missiles with poor guidance, the use of large explosive warheads, missiles used for large are strikes, Russia has embraced large indiscriminate area attacks that is killing civilians and lying to cover it up. And not acknowledging they f’d up. With no apology.

Same old Russian strategy and pattern. That’s the new world order your cheering for?

Ukrainian SOP as they attack Donetsk daily.

What’s the civilian death toll from yesterday and then today from those daily attacks? In a war against invading forces and forces sympathetic to the invaders. Using what equipment and ammunition?

originally posted by: Grimpachi
The mall is located near Kremenchhug Construction Equipment Plant.

If this is due to Russia instead of Ukraine staging more fake attacks then it is certainly a malfunction in the missile.

Russia doesn't waste expensive ammunition on targeting civilians like Ukraine does every single day as they shell Donetsk civilian centers.

This guy gets it. Sad to see so many people being influenced so much by propaganda.

Also to the poster asking about nukes.. ukraine has no nukes. They had the 3rd largest arsenal when they were part of the USSR. When it dissolved they signed a treaty to return all of them to russia or be dismantled.

Pro tip - Russia is not the bad guy in this war.

a reply to: Imperator2

Pro tip - Russia is not the bad guy in this war.

This Russia?

Russia’s Supreme Court rules that the USSR did not invade Poland in 1939

khpg.org...

At a press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel on May 10, 2015, Putin defended the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, claiming that the Soviet Union was being left to face Hitler’s Germany by itself. Russia’s culture minister Vladimir Medinsky called the pact a "colossal achievement of Stalin’s diplomacy."

Then on September 20, 2015, Russia’s ambassador to Venezuela Vladimir Zayemsky claimed that the Soviet Union did not invade Poland on Sept 17, 1939 and that it was in fact Poland, not the USSR, that collaborated with Nazi Germany. He wrote that “the alleged invasion by Soviet forces of Poland in 1939 is a lie” and went on to claim that although Poland was the first victim of WWII, it tried to be “Hitler’s faithful ally” in the period before the War. “It was Warsaw’s pro-fascist stand which made a treaty of cooperation between the USSR, Czechoslovakia and France impossible”, he alleged. The same offensive attempts to rewrite history were presented by Russia’s ambassador to Poland Sergey Andreyev a few days later, speaking on Polish television.

Andreyev claimed that the Soviet invasion on September 17 had not been an act of aggression, but a defensive act to ensure the security of the USSR.

This is exactly the narrative that the Kremlin has been pushing to try to justify Russia’s invasion and annexation of Crimea.

Seems like lies and propaganda to me…. What else will Russia lie about?

a reply to: Grimpachi

ANYONE CAN DIE AT ANY TIME”
Indiscriminate attacks by Russian forces in Kharkiv, Ukraine

www.amnesty.org...

Amnesty International researchers spent 14 days in April and May investigating 41 strikes in Kharkiv, which killed at least 62 civilians and injured over 196. They visited strike locations and interviewed 160 people, including victims, survivors, relatives of victims, witnesses and doctors who treated the injured. The organisation’s researchers also collected and analysed material evidence from strike locations, notably munitions fragments which were analysed by weapons experts, as well as an array of digital investigative material. Many of those interviewed asked that their surname not be made public.6

As Russia continues to bomb Ukraine, are its weapons of choice getting worse?

theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/14/as-russia-continues-to-bomb-ukraine-are-its-weapons-of-choice-getting-worse

A preliminary war crimes assessment, conducted on behalf of 45 members of the OSCE, concluded that Russia had engaged in “a clear pattern” of war crimes, targeting, for example, hospitals, schools and places of shelter during the seven weeks of fighting.
Had Russian forces avoided such tactics “the number of civilians killed or injured would have remained much lower,” the OSCE monitors observed.
At its simplest level, Russia is accused of using unguided bombs – heavy artillery, Grad multiple rockets, air dropped bombs – on urban areas by the OSCE monitors. “A majority of Russian attacks in populated areas have been conducted with unguided artillery,” was their grim conclusion in a 99-page report.
It is a war crime to target civilians directly, and to engage in an attack on a military target that is expected to cause a loss of civilian life excessive in relation to the battlefield gain – regardless of the weapons used.

Film shot by the Associated Press in Mariupol last month, for instance, shows a Russian tank shooting at an apartment block from some distance. In that city, scene of the worst urban fighting in the war so far, the office of the UN’s human rights commissioner has already concluded “126 multi-story residential buildings were damaged and 65 were destroyed”.

so fact :
an G7 was in progress
nato top at the brink of there meeting
while zelenski is begging for moore money and heavy weapons
than from nowere russia is hitting an civilian target ....how conveniant!!!!!
play the game !

it stinks.... it smells .... knowing that ukrain have the same missiles as the russians
en the security that the blame is always laying at russian side
how desperate can you be ???

originally posted by: visres
so fact :
an G7 was in progress
nato top at the brink of there meeting
while zelenski is begging for moore money and heavy weapons
than from nowere russia is hitting an civilian target ....how conveniant!!!!!
play the game !

it stinks.... it smells .... knowing that ukrain have the same missiles as the russians
en the security that the blame is always laying at russian side
how desperate can you be ???

Are you implying that after Russia launched a missile at a factory and successfully hit it which they will happily brag about that they did, Ukraine actually went BACK IN TIME and launched the first missile at the mall to incriminate Russia?

Wow. This war is getting scary advanced.

a reply to: Grimpachi

You

I see why you didn't post the link.

But I did cite the title and cite address, “abc.net.au/article/101194644 ”

You only have to Google either one.

a reply to: neutronflux

The first link says they were Kaliber type missiles. From the pic that wasn't a Kaliber.

Lrts just say they were all aimed at he plant. It would make sense as two missiles were kind of low for that size factory.

Through incompetence, missiles with poor guidance, the use of large explosive warheads, missiles used for large are strikes, Russia has embraced large indiscriminate area attacks that is killing civilians and lying to cover it up. And not acknowledging they f’d up. With no apology.

What a load of BS and you know it. There wasn't anything indiscriminate about it. It is funny how you ignore that UA uses civilian structures for storing weapons and ammo. That is called using the civilians as human shields.

That is probably perfectly fine with you. Ukraine should be more responsible and warn their civilians away from the places they are militarizing but they really like it when some get killed and they can cry and claim Russia is targeting civilians.

What was the claim? Oh yeah. A 1000 civilians in a shopping mall. A mall that only had 20 cars in front of it. They also claimed it was hit by a missile. Another lie.

You are unable to hold them accountable tho.

What’s the civilian death toll from yesterday and then today from those daily attacks? In a war against invading forces and forces sympathetic to the invaders. Using what equipment and ammunition?

Don't know. I have taken a few days off from looking at the daily shelling of Donetsk. It is really depressing seeing civillians and civilian structures being targeted every day.


Here is a link to a channel that covers it daily if you are honestly interested.

t.me...

a reply to: Grimpachi

What did you post about Russian not wasting munitions

Russia Ukraine War: How a football field turns into a giant crater after a missile strike

indianexpress.com... e/

Facing a barrage of heavy artillery, Ukraine's southern city of Mykolaiv has borne the brunt of the attacks and on Tuesday, its central city stadium, also known as Stadion Tsentralnyi was struck by a missile.

And yet I have cited reports, cases, and news of civilians killed by Russian incompetence and indiscriminate attacks..

Russian pattern of incompetence all the way back to MH 17, and the manufacturing of evidence and misinformation to cover up the acknowledgment of killing 298 individuals. With no one brought to justice and no apology or achievement from Russia it f’d up.



originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Grimpachi

ANYONE CAN DIE AT ANY TIME”
Indiscriminate attacks by Russian forces in Kharkiv, Ukraine

www.amnesty.org...

Amnesty International researchers spent 14 days in April and May investigating 41 strikes in Kharkiv, which killed at least 62 civilians and injured over 196. They visited strike locations and interviewed 160 people, including victims, survivors, relatives of victims, witnesses and doctors who treated the injured. The organisation’s researchers also collected and analysed material evidence from strike locations, notably munitions fragments which were analysed by weapons experts, as well as an array of digital investigative material. Many of those interviewed asked that their surname not be made public.6

As Russia continues to bomb Ukraine, are its weapons of choice getting worse?

theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/14/as-russia-continues-to-bomb-ukraine-are-its-weapons-of-choice-getting-worse

A preliminary war crimes assessment, conducted on behalf of 45 members of the OSCE, concluded that Russia had engaged in “a clear pattern” of war crimes, targeting, for example, hospitals, schools and places of shelter during the seven weeks of fighting.
Had Russian forces avoided such tactics “the number of civilians killed or injured would have remained much lower,” the OSCE monitors observed.
At its simplest level, Russia is accused of using unguided bombs – heavy artillery, Grad multiple rockets, air dropped bombs – on urban areas by the OSCE monitors. “A majority of Russian attacks in populated areas have been conducted with unguided artillery,” was their grim conclusion in a 99-page report.
It is a war crime to target civilians directly, and to engage in an attack on a military target that is expected to cause a loss of civilian life excessive in relation to the battlefield gain – regardless of the weapons used.

Film shot by the Associated Press in Mariupol last month, for instance, shows a Russian tank shooting at an apartment block from some distance. In that city, scene of the worst urban fighting in the war so far, the office of the UN’s human rights commissioner has already concluded “126 multi-story residential buildings were damaged and 65 were destroyed”.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Its incomparable, the killing of civilians and the subsequent Russian lies, manufacturing of evidence, and coverup by the corrupt authoritarian Putin your idea of the New World Order?

a reply to: neutronflux

A preliminary war crimes assessment, conducted on behalf of 45 members of the OSCE, concluded that Russia had engaged in “a clear pattern” of war crimes, targeting, for example, hospitals, schools and places of shelter during the seven weeks of fighting.

Schools



Hospitals



Oh yes, the OSCE.



Why are you even referring to the OSCE anyway? I have already posted the above video once. Did you not watch it? If you did then why are you referring to them as reliable source?

a reply to: visres

Russia has admitted it was them. Nice try though.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: visres

Russia has admitted it was them. Nice try though.

The Dutch justice department would not prosecute if there was not enough proof.

They have the names and shirt numbers.

I wonder what would happen if we shot down a Russian airliner over west europe , i geuss we would not be on ATS but be radioactive dust.

I wonder how the Russians would feel hearing about their countrymen laying in fields and hanging from trees for days because the nations the victims originated from where banned acces to the crash site.

Funny how the Russians pull the Nazi card everytime but see Western citizens as untermensch.

No amount of pro russian propanda is gonna change the truth , the Russians straight up aided in the murder of everyone on this plane by giving Buk launchers to a bunch of cowboys.

These cowboys had succesfully downed ukrainian military planes in the days leading up to this event , they became trigger happy and painted every unknown dot on the radar as a target , Duck hunt for adults.

Bad idea to have a mall right next to a military production facility.