The Smoking Gun: DMED Whistle Blower Data Released - It's Shocking

a reply to: McGinty

I like to argue with the devil's advocate.

Some points as to whether the vaccine caused more severe disease than the virus:

There are more cases reported in this fall winter season compared to last fall winter season.

There are more deaths in this fall season compared to last fall season. There may be almost as much deaths in this winter season compared to last winter season.

(Preempted rebuttal to the expected rebuttal of the above points: There is zero evidence that there is any difference between alpha, delta, and omicron variants. And it is not publicly known how many viruses are put into circulation. We must assume these are constants.)

Next point, it is basic health knowledge that the body clears more waste product through breathing, and less waste product through intestines. When you are vaccinated, you must rely on clearing antigens through your intestines, more so than through your respiratory system. This puts more stress on you, causing greater disease.

originally posted by: RavenSpeaks
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

The end result is that the reported number of diseases and injuries went from around 2 million in 2020 to about 21 million in 2021

Huh ? The total number of U.S. military personnel ,including their dependents
is like 5 million. Either some mathemagician is involved in these figures,
or that is one seriously messed up segment of the U.S. population.

I mean this is unbelievable. Surely the bulk of these injuries are
from paper cuts or Some general spilling hot coffee on his
crotch creature. Stoopid stuff like that.

It's figures from all of the DOD mate , not just the Military.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: McGinty

I like to argue with the devil's advocate.

Some points as to whether the vaccine caused more severe disease than the virus:

There are more cases reported in this fall winter season compared to last fall winter season.

There are more deaths in this fall season compared to last fall season. There may be almost as much deaths in this winter season compared to last winter season.

(Preempted rebuttal to the expected rebuttal of the above points: There is zero evidence that there is any difference between alpha, delta, and omicron variants. And it is not publicly known how many viruses are put into circulation. We must assume these are constants.)

Next point, it is basic health knowledge that the body clears more waste product through breathing, and less waste product through intestines. When you are vaccinated, you must rely on clearing antigens through your intestines, more so than through your respiratory system. This puts more stress on you, causing greater disease.

Some will argue the virus is more dangerous than the vaccine, but even trying to argue one is more dangerous than the other, as if it's a close contest is really absurd. Take a step back and think about a vaccine you have to use 3 times in a year, but still get the virus, and then try to convince people the vaccine is less dangerous than the virus. Before you 2020 this would be a joke.

a reply to: InachMarbank
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I think I’m probably doing a crappy job of asking the question. I agree with you both that the military data suggests the vaccines are more dangerous than pharma and big brother would have us believe. No argument at all from me.

However, I’m trying to foresee the arguments used by the bean counters to prevent this data being used to open an enquiry. It stands to reason that they will claim this data is inadmissible due to there being no control group within the data; virtually everyone was given the vaccine.

Therefore, although as you’ve made clear it’s an unlikely scenario that the vaccines did not cause these conditions, it can be argued legally that the burden of proof would be upon those claiming the vaccine did it to show that covid itself couldn’t have done it. Is that provable?

Although, like you both, I see that as a BS argument, it is nonetheless one that I think tptb can use as to frustrate efforts to utilise this data to uncover greater lies.

So, it’s not my opinion that the data needs a control group, but it is my opinion that when trying to use this to legally force further investigation it will be successfully argued that it needs a control group. If I were a ruthless spin doctor of pharma and it’s political servants that’s the defence I’d take and I think it’d work. In short, the frakkers win again!

a reply to: sirlancelot

Yes, the FAA has joined the ranks of all the other federal alphabet agencies controlled by special interests. FAA, FDA, CDC, NIAIH and all the rest are controlled by Pharma.

Effectively the US has been ruled by Pharma for 2 years. Unelected bureaucrats like Fauci have ruled this country and its people, even as our "elected officials" have enabled it.

Fauci perjures himself in front of Congress and no charges have been brought. POTUS enables and assists vast hordes of undocumented aliens crossing the border, and nobody talks of impeachment, but I digress.

a reply to: McGinty

If you breath in SARS COV 2 inadvertently, because its all around you, yes it can cause these effects. I wouldn't deny that.

But my rebuttal is injecting SARS COV2 is not going prevent you from being infected, will infect you to an even greater degree, and will be more difficult for your body to clear.

We don't need further experimentation to prove this. It is common sense, and we have enough data that shows that result.

a reply to: McGinty

That's a very good point you make, but I suspect that once it becomes public (and it has) what the life insurance companies are seeing around the world, the questions you raise will be answered.

Even Tucker has now mentioned it two nights ago, but he seems unable to see the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

The only possible explanation for death rates (insurance claims for death benefits) making a huge jump in 2021 is that the shots have caused it, with half or better of the populations having taken those experimental shots.

Don"t you think that by Pfizer trashing the clinical trials by getting rid of the control group was premeditated knowing full well that they needed to in order to cover their Ar$e? That right there says a lot. Then ALL of them pushing so hard to get everyone jabbed, so wouldn't the un-jabbed be the control group now?

I have read in our forums about a loop hole re Pfizer & others being able to sell the jab & patents to another company
therefore alleviating all responsibilities from any side effects, disabilities & deaths. I would think some great attorneys
will be able to mend that hole since it has been used in the past for the same reason.

Cheers
Ektar

originally posted by: just4fun
the shots are safe and effective...


then show me the data


will show it in 75 years.

When everyone responsible for the greatest crime against humanity is either dead or as senile as… you know… the thing…

Looks like $$$ corrupted everyone in politics .

My wife's fully vaccinated 20 something co-worker just found out she's infertile. So many fully vaxxed people keep getting diagnosed with "coincidences".

a reply to: carewemust

It is a big deal and their lie that the "system" was working is a lie that can be easily prove. First off, all of these numbers are tracked in the DMED system. That's a given. They are also tracked in TriCare the military medical component that pays for the care of active duty and retire military members. What Sen Johnson needs to do is to immediately contact TriCare and request that ALL claims filed from 1Jan2016 thru to 31Dec2020 be preserved in their original format. Then a separate request for the TriCare claims for 1Jan2021 thru 31Dec2021 can also be done as well. Then compare the claims via ICD-10 coding against the list that the whistleblowers brought forth against the claims and voila there you will have it. At that point when they come back and say "there was a coding error" in the DMED system, the TriCare claims will back up that there was not an error. I find it hard to believe that a 5 year ICD-10 coding error was just allowed to continue. TriCare is an insurance company. They would have noted this and informed the DMED system, which would be updated yearly since CPT and ICD-10 codes are retired or become obselete in October of every single year. There is no way this error was allowed to go unabated and unnoticed for 5 years.

a reply to: McGinty

Actually that would be a fantastic control group to look at don't you think? About 1.2 million individuals, of varying races, varying ages, varying genders all getting the same injections. What better control group to look at. They are physically fit and are doing numerous tasks and jobs across the spectrum. I still believe that there are people both in the military and in the general populace that have gotten a placebo and those who have received the actual injection of mRNA. So the control group aspect of it is moot. They are now trying to push this off as a coding error within the system and that is just plain impossible. Not for that many ICD-10 codes. TriCare which is the insurance carrier that covers both active duty and retired military will have the records even if the scrub the DMED system which they have apparently done. TriCare needs to preserve their records and then Sen Johnson can have someone look both at the claims from TriCare and match them up to what the whistleblowers presented to Atty Renz to bring forth. Therein will lie the truth. If there was this "error" which I find extremely hard to believe considering they are passing it off as a 5 yr error and each year ICD-10 and CPT codes are routinely updated each October and obsolete codes are retired but retained within the system for review. So there is no way TriCare would have allowed a 5 yr old coding error to have gone on unnoticed. They are the ones paying the bills therefore they are the ones who would be on top of it.

The ONLY time military data is incorrect is when they're deliberately hiding something. If there were some sort of reporting glitch, it would have been discovered within a week or two, if not a day or two.

I don't think doctors are deliberately going along with harming people. I saw this coming decades ago when they started compartmentalizing medicine into specialties. The old GP had some very well rounded knowledge and could get to the bottom of just about anything, but advancements in knowledge means no one person can possibly carry all that knowledge.

They get a basic working of the human body, but couldn't go to a lab and run-or analyze- specific tests. An OB couldn't look at brain studies and identify any but the most glaring problem. They rely on specialists to run and analyze test they're familiar with performing. They rely and trust their fellow scientists when told the data says this vaccine is safe and is saving lives.

A top rate mechanic may be able to rebuild your engine with his eyes closed, but the vast majority have only a basic understanding of an automatic transmission; if that needs rebuilt they'll send you down the road to someone who specializes in transmissions.

Some doctors still have their reservations, but they can't act against the profession without great detriment to their careers.

Hospitals have protocols they HAVE to follow if they receive government funds. The protocol in the beginning was to intubate covid patients. They were not allowed to use HQ or Ivermectin as they needed to be thoroughly studied for use in covid patients first.

The medical field has become as convoluted as our political system, and there is plenty of 'pay to play' corruption going on in both, but I still believe the majority of doctors care and want to do the right thing.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

8.15.2022

Ironically, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has contracted Covid-19...AGAIN.

Source: truthsocial.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

8.15.2022

Ironically, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has contracted Covid-19...AGAIN.

Source: truthsocial.com...

Yep and so did the head of the CDC and basically any official who claims to be vaxxt.