What was the purpose of creation?

For new conscious living souls to come into existence and have their being

a reply to: Raggedyman

Fair enough Raggedyman, and I understand your point of view.

I guess you can say that mine is that God can't be perfect, as many like to say he is. Regardless of greater plans and purposes he holds in his mind. Humans have a wide range of emotions. Love, kindness, mercy, empathy, anger, regret, jealousy, and such. We are fallible. And if we are made in God's image, some of himself would be part of us. It's no secret that God experiences a wide range of emotions. Everything from love and mercy, to anger and wrath. Regret (see Noah's Ark). The feeling of maybe having made a mistake in creation? The love to reset and try again. God's plans obviously change, evolve if you will, with the course of time. Which doesn't make sense if he knows all, but I digress. The Old Testament, then the New.

Just saying that if God is indeed real, according to the Christian narrative, imo, he is imperfect. Regardless of whatever powers and plans he has. An all wise, all knowing God, that can see any and all outcomes and possibilities, and has all the power to change anything, is the source of everything, is perfect in every single way imaginable- would not experience things like jealousy and regret. Simply because a perfect being would be incapable of mistakes.

So, maybe God isn't perfect, just closer to perfection than us. And maybe that's part of his purpose of creation. To raise us closer to him. I don't believe that, as you know. But am just trying to consider ideas from both sides.

You’re viewing wrong. We don’t need a purpose to be created, much of what we create ourselves has no purpose either. Why do we specifically need a purpose beyond your original question of what is the purpose of creation? Those are two separate questions.

a reply to: TerraLiga

We literally are purpose, it's most noticeable in children, your spirit is purpose but your physical existence can suppress it if you make the wrong choices or your unlucky enough to be born in to a life that suppresses it.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Not sure God knows the future outside of a builder knowing the home will eventually be complete. It will happen, the details are yet to be carried out.
Freewill of creation, certainly has a set outcome, just colours need to be filled in.
We are the ones in charge of the colours

originally posted by: neoholographic
There's been some good answers but the real answer is:

WE DON'T KNOW.

Would you say that you were content with that answer - by not knowing? You're a fundamentalist, after all, so this must be pretty galling for you to admit.

originally posted by: Skepticape
You’re viewing wrong. We don’t need a purpose to be created, much of what we create ourselves has no purpose either. Why do we specifically need a purpose beyond your original question of what is the purpose of creation? Those are two separate questions.

a reply to: TerraLiga

Everything created/produced/manufactured has a purpose. Whether it performs a function or fulfils a need or makes the creator happy, there is always a purpose. Therefore, if a creator made the universe and everything in it, for what purpose?

originally posted by: cooperton
For new conscious living souls to come into existence and have their being

There was no consciousness before creation. There was nothing at all except this finger-twiddling lonely god.

a reply to: TerraLiga

As an experiment. Or we are just a virus to a higher being that they choose to manipulate...for a laugh.

a reply to: TerraLiga


Everything has a function, but not necessarily a purpose. Purpose is a human construct. It may mean something to us but means nothing to a chair, table or a car. Each of the objects has a function. The human who made them had a purpose in mind. I think the idea of "purpose" causes people to get wrapped around the axel. Attributing "purpose" to a god doesn't make sense because humans have free will. If you do bad things, do you blame god? No. Most people on this planet are pretty miserable. Is that god's fault? No. Why? Because there probably isn't a god out there that gives a damn about any of this. And if there is, he/she/it should be fired.

originally posted by: TerraLiga
What I like to focus on is 'why?'.

Why not?

In the beginning One knew only one thing; One existed.

The instant One came to know about existing, One came to know about one other thing; Not existing.

When One came to know about not existing, the total number of known things was two. That is when One discovered two.

It was at that point One knew three things; Not existing, One existing, and two. That is when One discovered three.

The moment One discovered three the total number of known things was four. Then, One discovered five.

In this manner, through induction, One's knowledge increased exponentially.

One gave rise to zero. Zero gave rise to minus one. Two things gave rise to multiple things. Multiple things gave rise to one thing divided by multiple things. Then division gave rise to infinite things.

Knowing gave rise to more knowing.

But how does One come to know something that didn't exist?

One creates.

Why does One create?

To know.

Everyone asks if God created us who created God? We are God creating itself through the process of evolution. 2 billion years ago we were single celled. 2 billion years from now we will be as different from us as we are to single celled organisms.

that doesn’t make any sense…the gospels and accounts of the old testament stand alone and they are all the same in every bible with different wording, same meaning……

and overrated? how is any bible “overrated”….?

originally posted by: gflyg
Everyone asks if God created us who created God? We are God creating itself through the process of evolution. 2 billion years ago we were single celled. 2 billion years from now we will be as different from us as we are to single celled organisms.

I didn't ask that question at all...

a reply to: More1ThanAny1

I thought your god was meant to be 'all knowing'?

originally posted by: Phantom423
a reply to: TerraLiga


Everything has a function, but not necessarily a purpose. Purpose is a human construct. It may mean something to us but means nothing to a chair, table or a car. Each of the objects has a function. The human who made them had a purpose in mind. I think the idea of "purpose" causes people to get wrapped around the axel. Attributing "purpose" to a god doesn't make sense because humans have free will. If you do bad things, do you blame god? No. Most people on this planet are pretty miserable. Is that god's fault? No. Why? Because there probably isn't a god out there that gives a damn about any of this. And if there is, he/she/it should be fired.

I agree with your last point but disagree with your first. Purpose is given by a designer/creator, whether that be a human, a bird, insect or any other creature. Function is a syntax of purpose. If there is a creator then our universe must serve a purpose.

a reply to: TerraLiga

Yes. One is the total of all that exists and will ever exist, that includes all knowledge.

What I described in my last post was the birth of One's knowledge. The first things ever known.

The prima knowledge led to an infinite recursion of more knowledge. All that exists now, all of creation, is an infinite act of knowing. One is currently in the processes of knowing every combination of every possibility.

Knowledge has to be created for it to be known. Constant creation means there is always something new to know. One knows all things because One never stops creating all things. That is also how One comes know that which is yet to be known.

a reply to: TerraLiga

The purpose of creation is the joy of creation itself. You are the purpose of your life.

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
War against stars? Actual sentient stars that are 'gods' and create life on their planets with the hopes of their people one day going to space and building guns big enough to help out their sun by blowing up the rival suns and destroying their solar systems?

They need us to rise up and fight the ultimate battle of dark vs light, yin yang.

We are just trying to evolve into a powerful enough planet so we can one day go to war against Bettlejuice and others.

So roll up your sleeve and... wait, actually don't do that.

That sounds like a scenario where general creation already happened and the other beings/planets in universe had previous existed or had been created.

This just begs the question, "what was the purpose of creating those other beings/planets?"