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Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (VAIDS) right on schedule

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posted on Dec, 11 2021 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: wdkirk

The question that you don't seem to be able to answer is why would the rest of the world go along with this?

How come the virus and the vax are all being reported pretty much identically in Russia and China, and Iran and the EU?

In my home country the vax is doing really well. We have an independent drug regulator who've done their own trials on the vax, and our data is near enough to that of the US and the EU that it's functionally identical. Which would seem to demonstrate that the data is accurate. Our regulator has a different structure form the regulator in the US, and if you wanted to corrupt it you'd need to corrupt literally thousands of people leaving absolutely zero evidence behind.

We're also getting about the same side effect rates as Russia and the EU, and the US, which would also indicate that the data is accurate. Again, we have an independent body to deal with this, the level of corruption needed to fake the data would be absurd.

We're not getting crazy side effects like magnetic people or people who glow in the dark, it's mostly just mild flu like symptoms. Eve the blot clot rates are so low as to be almost non existent. There have been a tiny number of cases, and because of the way that our system is structured, you'd need to corrupt people from the grass roots upwards to fake it.


WHY, you ask?

THIS IS WHY

Because it benefits the elites of the world. Spend some time on that website. Watch the videos. Read their agendas.
It is a REAL website. Run by very real POWERFUL people. Do research on who they are.



posted on Dec, 11 2021 @ 11:59 PM
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originally posted by: seagull


It's always been about feeding his ego. Nothing more, nothing less.


There is not a politician out there that does not exhibit narcissistic traits. Not one.
At the end of the day, is a POTUS doing what is best for the country and the citizens?
We will never get a perfect human in the White House.
We need someone who holds the Constitution in his/her hands and demands that the country is run via that and that only and that We The People remain protected by it.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 12:08 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: puzzled2

I wonder about Germany, it seems that the nazi tendencies of the past regimes never truly died out, is something that is in their leader's blood, they need to be back and subjugate their citizens once again.

Is just like history always repeat itself waiting for the right opportunity.





Isnt there some famous quote about The Sins of our Fathers.....
I don't know....
But it sounds like there could be....



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:12 AM
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originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: wdkirk

The question that you don't seem to be able to answer is why would the rest of the world go along with this?

How come the virus and the vax are all being reported pretty much identically in Russia and China, and Iran and the EU?

In my home country the vax is doing really well. We have an independent drug regulator who've done their own trials on the vax, and our data is near enough to that of the US and the EU that it's functionally identical. Which would seem to demonstrate that the data is accurate. Our regulator has a different structure form the regulator in the US, and if you wanted to corrupt it you'd need to corrupt literally thousands of people leaving absolutely zero evidence behind.

We're also getting about the same side effect rates as Russia and the EU, and the US, which would also indicate that the data is accurate. Again, we have an independent body to deal with this, the level of corruption needed to fake the data would be absurd.

We're not getting crazy side effects like magnetic people or people who glow in the dark, it's mostly just mild flu like symptoms. Eve the blot clot rates are so low as to be almost non existent. There have been a tiny number of cases, and because of the way that our system is structured, you'd need to corrupt people from the grass roots upwards to fake it.


WHY, you ask?

THIS IS WHY

Because it benefits the elites of the world. Spend some time on that website. Watch the videos. Read their agendas.
It is a REAL website. Run by very real POWERFUL people. Do research on who they are.


That's not an explanation. WHY would governments in countries like Iran, Russia and China go along with this. They have absolutely nothing to gain from it and everything to gain from exposing a conspiracy. Why would both Trump and Biden do this, they answer to completely different sets of elite?

You're entire premise is based on the idea that the elite are essentially people with shares in Netflix and Amazon, when in fact the pandemic is absolutely hammering a good proportion of the world's elite. The hotel owners, the theme park owners, much of Hollywood, Casino owners. The pandemic is a nightmare for anybody who makes their money getting feet through doors. Just look at how much money Disneyland is loosing or the Casinos and hotels in Vegas.

You're also not answering why people in places like Iran or the poorer central and Eastern European countries would go for this when they aren't beholden to the elite?



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:16 AM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: AaarghZombies




From where I'm standing, the only conspiracy is the one run by the anti-vaxxers.


I guess you include in there the thousands of top Drs and Virologists who have courageously spoken out.


Except that most of them don't exist, or aren't experts in those fields. They're mostly either completely fake Link or are alternative health practitioners who deal with things like Chiropractic practices or homeopathy.

The rest were mostly just wrong, like the people who claimed that the vax would send people into shock.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:19 AM
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originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: wdkirk

The question that you don't seem to be able to answer is why would the rest of the world go along with this?

How come the virus and the vax are all being reported pretty much identically in Russia and China, and Iran and the EU?

In my home country the vax is doing really well. We have an independent drug regulator who've done their own trials on the vax, and our data is near enough to that of the US and the EU that it's functionally identical. Which would seem to demonstrate that the data is accurate. Our regulator has a different structure form the regulator in the US, and if you wanted to corrupt it you'd need to corrupt literally thousands of people leaving absolutely zero evidence behind.

We're also getting about the same side effect rates as Russia and the EU, and the US, which would also indicate that the data is accurate. Again, we have an independent body to deal with this, the level of corruption needed to fake the data would be absurd.

We're not getting crazy side effects like magnetic people or people who glow in the dark, it's mostly just mild flu like symptoms. Eve the blot clot rates are so low as to be almost non existent. There have been a tiny number of cases, and because of the way that our system is structured, you'd need to corrupt people from the grass roots upwards to fake it.


Mate this "Vaccine" is way to new for you to be making these wild assumptions about it's overall effectiveness .

Who is this we ,were , People your talking about are you gathering mass amounts of data that no one else is privy to ?

This type of Vaccine has been attempted and tested for decades and failed every single time but now all of the sudden they get it right , but of course the very important powerful people who are demanding we get the Vaccine are also exempt from getting the Vaccine .

So you just assume all of that is normal ?


Maybe under your archaic political system, but we're more modern and have an independent regulator that's free from your partisan politics and your vested commercial interests.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:20 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Deetermined
Wouldn't that mean that after 7 months the more VULNERABLE vaccinated groups WOULD BE at the same risk as their unvaccinated peers?

The title of the thread is wrong because the study doesn't show any type of acquired immune deficiency.


No, because immunity never drops to zero. They'd still be better off.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:22 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: AaarghZombies






The question that you don't seem to be able to answer is why would the rest of the world go along with this?


You live under a Rock?





New vaccine billionaires gain wealth as Moderna and BioNTech shares soar

www.cnbc.com...

The surge in shares of BioNTech has created $4 billion in added wealth for its CEO and founder, Ugur Sahin.
The two early investors in BioNTech have done even better. German twins Thomas and Andreas Strungmann both have added $8 billion to their net worths this year.
Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel has gained $4.8 billion in wealth this year, giving him a net worth of $5.3 billion.





And what about China, India, Africa and Russia, who don't get a share of that money?

Why would people who stand to gain nothing go along with it?



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:35 AM
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originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: AaarghZombies

So why does the FDA want to hide the Pfizer safety data for 55 years?


Ah, yes, I'm afraid that you've fallen for a hoax here. They're not being allowed to hide anything. In fact they are legally required to hand over the data under FOIA.

What actually happened was that the FDA was being sent more FOIA requests than they were able to process due to the massive amount of data involved. So they asked for permission to extend the normal deadline for responding, and the judge granted them a limited exemption that required them to hand over the data outside of the normal window

Link

The 55 years (75 in some versions) is the maximum amount of time that it would take them to handle every single request due to there being literally 10s of millions of pages of data and documentation to be processed.

This data includes memos and minutes of meetings that simply mention the vaccine in passing and hold no actual useful information, or hold information that would be released in other sources (Duplicate data).

Furthermore, this only covers data in certain categories that aren't automatically cleared and formatted for release.

In 55 years time you might get access to a memo that tells you that a member of the vaccine oversight committee can't come to a specific meeting because they are double booked, but the data on deaths and side effects will come out much sooner.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:36 AM
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originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: AaarghZombies

What happens when you let hundreds of people run countries of billions and then allow them to congregate and meet in secret with corporate powerhouses and big tech? You effectively have a cabal of ultra powerful and corrupt elite interests shaping the entire global economy. If you want to trust them feel free, just don’t expect those of us who actually read and investigate beyond the media networks to accept your naive fantasy.



And what about countries like China and Russia, who have a completely different set of TPTB who are in active conflict with the TPDB in the US?

Why would a Russia billionaire force the Kremlin to follow policy set by their American rival, rather than using the pandemic as a chance to take said rival down.

TPTB and the NWO aren't the same people, and they aren't all on the same side.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:39 AM
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originally posted by: baggy7981

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Even the serious side effects like clotting are nothing to do with mRNA, and have killed fewer than 100 people out of over 50 million.


Whilst there isn't a breakdown from what the vax believers died from or which version of the so-called vaccine they took, 447 of them died in Scotland between Oct-Nov compared to only 54 of those stinky unvaxxed. Scoreboard!

www.europereloaded.com...
Link from ElectricUniverse's thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...


This makes the vax a roaring success, and a triumph of mankind over Covid.


Surely contender for funniest comment of the week?


Estimates are that several hundred thousand lives were saved.

...

All of those young people who had a mild dose of covid and got over it in a couple of days, they're two steps behind the people who got the vax.


Before magic vaccines: 76,000,000 recovered, 400,000 dead. 99.5% recovery rate.
After magic vaccines: 242,498,726 recovered, 5,315,126 dead. 98% recovery rate.

Overall recovery rate down = more people saved. The logic of covid drug pushers.

Yes, that's what happens with young people, being able to shrug off things like flu quickly and their immune system being stronger afterwards. Marvellous being young, isn't it? But then I'm one of those that goes out in shorts and a tee in the depth of winter in England.


Except that's a not true.

The recovery was 98.7 percent across all age groups BEFORE the vax, not after it. You're playing mix and match with the figures.

See the links in my signature, they're from the UK and are free of US politics



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:44 AM
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originally posted by: Dalamax

Estimates are that several hundred thousand lives were saved


Prove it.

Estimates are that 1 in 3 people suffer vaccine anxiety and require therapy.

a reply to: AaarghZombies


You just can't stand that Trump's vax is saving lives, can you.

Well, the data is in, and hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved.

Here's some links form outside of the US, where people are able to seperate science form hatred of Trump.

Link

Link

Warp Speed has saved more lives than all of your liberal socialist nanny state regulations.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 05:55 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

For anyone who knows and has read their Bible, it's not that hard to figure out. Humanity is heading towards it's tipping point with God due to worldwide corruption.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

Keep telling yourself that as we move closer and closer to world governance. Did the politicians in these so called opposed countries react any differently to the pandemic or was it almost a uniform heavy handed response to a mild respiratory virus?
edit on 12/12/21 by Grenade because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 07:20 AM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: AaarghZombies

For anyone who knows and has read their Bible, it's not that hard to figure out. Humanity is heading towards it's tipping point with God due to worldwide corruption.


And yet some of the earliest signs and portents have yet to be met, and if anything are going the wrong way.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 07:20 AM
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The ink in the OP is not working for me.

Did americasfrontlinedoctors.org... delete their post?



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: Grenade

They all reacted differently, and in accordance with their normal psychology. Which is why it debunks the concept that they are involved in some kind of global conspiracy. They clearly aren't in this together, in fact many of them seem to be making it up as they go along, or changing what they are doing when the scientific advice changes.

Everything that you're saying demonstrates clearly that you're only looking at the US, and are presuming that this represents the entire world, when in fact even neighboring countries are reacting very differently.

I will also remind you that this "mild respiratory virus" that has killed about 3/4 of a million Americans, and about 5 million people world wide, and that's not including all of the cases that Russia and China are probably covering up. Who knows how many millions of Chinese died from Covid that we're never going to hear about. In 50 years time we might find out that millions of Chinese died in 2020 alone. I'm hearing terrifying storied about how many Chinese social media accounts simply stopped being updated as if their users dropped off of the face of the earth.

If you want an example of how this clearly isn't planned just look at the four parts of the UK. Each country has its own regional approach, and they're all completely different, they aren't co-ordinating with each other. If anything they're all fighting against each other.

Probably the best example is England Vs Scotland.

Authorities in England didn't originally plan to lock down, they wanted to allow Covid to circulate so that they could get herd immunity that way,. Scotland wanted to lock down heavily from day one but was afraid that if it did so England would leach all of it's business away by remaining open. So the Scottish regional assembly attempted to push England into locking down and into not unlocking over the summer so that it couldn't gain an economic advantage.

Even now all 4 regions have separate rules regarding locking down and covid passports.

In the US no two states are the same.

If this was a conspiracy clearly nobody told Texas and California, because they're as different as England and Scotland.

Russia is one of the world's most restrictive countries, it could easily lock down and lock down hard, but their restrictions are lower than in the US. China locked down harder than the US early on but opened up more and sooner.

Both of these countries are acting exactly how they would be expected to do in the case of a disease outbreak, and aren't reacting out of character at all. They're putting their economies before their people just as England is.

Israel is a police state at the best of times and is treating covid as a public health issue.

Germany is a state based on regulation, and they're trying to regulate their way out of the pandemic.

The French are so far left that they're essentially anarchists in many regards, and this has been their response to the pandemic.

Africa and India have had to balance the harm caused by locking down against the fact that they have large populations in dire poverty. And their reactions to the pandemic have been accordingly.

The former fascists states in Europe, like Greece, Italy and Spain, have essentially reverted back to type and have reacted to the pandemic exactly how you would expect a centralized leftist government to reaction.

I could go on like this for ages, but you should get the picture by now.

There clearly is no centralized plan here, countries can't even agree on how to restrict access to their borders.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

I stopped listening to your drivel months ago.

Best not to waste more than a sentence on me.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I stopped listening to your drivel months ago.

Best not to waste more than a sentence on me.


No, you stopped responding when you realized that I could take anything that you said and then debunk it using a statistics and logical arguments.

You still can't explain why countries that are on completely different sides would come together on this, or why America's enemies expose a fake pandemic for their own political and economic gain?

So, please tell me, why would Iran side with Washington on this, I guess you think that they're big fans of Bezos, Gates and Clinton?



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 09:16 AM
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I’m playing catch up a bit here - apologies…

Has the data come in yet for any adverse effects caused by any of the vaccines for 5 years after being administered?

I’m assuming that data must be in now, since some folk here sound to me as if they must have seen this data.

Grateful if someone can fill me in on that data or provide a link.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: failing that, hell even the 2 year results would be great - they must’ve seen that, surely!

edit on 12-12-2021 by McGinty because: (no reason given)




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