Notes on NUREMBERG. COVID vaccine deaths & adverse events reported thus far in the EU. UK. & USA.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

So you're confused the WHO are expected to lay down the laws and required education around the world but you're immune to the programming because

I have an academic background in the sciences, and the American government has had no opportunity to educate me at all, as I am a national of another country, and currently reside in yet another country.

WHAT part did you miss about the WHO SETTING the laws around the world

The WHO cannot directly set the laws of countries.

What they can do is lobby advocates to propose bills which incorporate statutes that allow for a response to health issues that may affect that country.

NZis the biggest buy in to the the WEF Build back Better campaign.

Probably is. But as a tiny and not particularly populous country, I doubt that it has much of a say in economies other than its own.

Despite the social protections of the NZ government, New Zealand is definitely a capitalist country.

The World Health Organization had their funding cut significantly, and so are hardly in a position of power.

Position to set the laws and declare a Pandemic

Anyone observing the situation could have 'declared' the pandemic. It's not as if 'declaring' it changes anything about the spread of the disease. That's up to those that respond to the declaration - or don't.

, which can then give the power to order the change of society - in 290 countries.
They aren't the bribers, they are the ones legitimizing those that are corrupt.

Except that they are a world health organization, established and run to deal with health threats affecting multiple countries.

And the WHO have had 73 years of positive results doing exactly that. Doing things like eradicating Polio and Smallpox, and fighting diseases like Plague, Tuberculosis, Malaria, AIDS, SARS, Marburg, and Ebola, often in countries that don't have the wealth or health infrastructure to do so.

The web we uncovered paints a picture of a public health organiszation that has been corrupted by the opioid industry
Katherine Clark and Hal Rogers -2019

Purdue Pharma accused of 'corrupting' WHO to boost global opioid sales
This article is more than 2 years old
‘Unscrupulous’ manufacturer replicated false marketing claims to change WHO guidelines, report by members of Congress allege

So have a prior history of being influenced to allow business to profit.

Actually, the villain in the piece was the Purdue Pharmaceuticals company, not the WHO, not the FDA, not the doctors who were induced to prescribe their drugs, and not the CDC, who were all being deceived and manipulated.

The results of investigations into this was that Purdue Pharma was shut-down in 2019, and ordered to pay out more than $8 billion for its crimes, by the courts.

Here's what I think: the people who try and counter any efforts to defend against a raging disease, are not patriots. They are not defending freedom, they are extending the effects of a disease, extending the financial chaos, extending the number of deaths, and that disease now has a number of relatively cheap medicines.

Really you believe that?
Can you show the government publish proof that killing parasites in people prior to being infected with sars-cov-2 wouldn't help keep them out of the hospital?

It is impossible to prove a negative, scientifically.

Can you show me research papers that having a parasite is a significant factor in hospitalization and co-mortality in covid-19 cases? That would be more apt and indicative.

You also said

But there is experience that shows that there are dangers.

But some how Remdesivir was approved and used when experience showed it killed people. It was eventual not recommended by the WHO but is still accepted and used around the world Strange that...

Because it is both recommended for use, and warned against, for very specific situations/conditions in places where it still has approval.

All effective medicines have potential complications and adverse reactions.

The most powerful tools also are usually the most dangerous if misused.

If someone is telling you that a medicine is both effective, and has no adverse effects, it is a sure fire indicator that they are lying.

Are there any studies that don't included a still under patent control drug that helps a over-reaction by the immune system?

Surely, there would have been more therapeutic and health advice, if your right and the governments are about saving lives.

It is a controlled substance because it is dangerous, and needs to be controlled, for public safety.

But lockdown and now with a forced vaccination program shows that it was about lives but build back better.

Perhaps the Maori had a good policy when they took control, you would support them too I suppose.

I was one of very few people who helped get the Maori Party into coalition government back in 2004. I am not Maori by descent, but believed that they needed to have a voice, and specifically in regard to the seabed and foreshore legislation that was affecting them more than any other ethnic group at the time. Although the reasons for the Party's existence have changed, I still think the party still has legitimacy in its advocacy. But that is off-topic.

The lockdowns, masks, and vaccinations, are simply tools in combatting a disease that people are dying from.

The true criminals are those who, through action or inaction, extend the disease and its consequences.

a reply to: chr0naut

The true criminals are those who, through action or inaction, extend the disease and its consequences.

Glad to see that we agree, refusing to follow the same observational information that defeated smallpox.
People with X are not getting sick whereas people without X does.

If someone is telling you that a medicine is both effective, and has no adverse effects, it is a sure fire indicator that they are lying.

does that include the "vaccines" you want forced into people?

A drug that kills parasites in 3.5 billion people with fewer side effects that 1 vaccine. Is not worth investigating.
If no one questioned the science from pharma, we'd still be having birth defects, trans fats and healthy smoking.

It is a controlled substance because it is dangerous, and needs to be controlled, for public safety.

What are you going on about? not everything is a controlled substance (yet) that can improve the reaction of the immune system.

I was one of very few people who helped get the Maori Party

So you have a history of support mass murderers that explains a lot. - Moriori genocide

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

The true criminals are those who, through action or inaction, extend the disease and its consequences.

Glad to see that we agree, refusing to follow the same observational information that defeated smallpox.
People with X are not getting sick whereas people without X does.

It took 187 years to eradicate smallpox by those methods!

If someone is telling you that a medicine is both effective, and has no adverse effects, it is a sure fire indicator that they are lying.

does that include the "vaccines" you want forced into people?

Of course it does.

A drug that kills parasites in 3.5 billion people with fewer side effects that 1 vaccine. Is not worth investigating.

The doses used for parasites are 10 times lower than the doses that have shown an effect against COVID-19 in in-vitro studies. Even in those low anti-parasitic doses, Ivermectin is not without adverse effects:

Serious Neurological Adverse Events after Ivermectin—Do They Occur beyond the Indication of Onchocerciasis?

Serious adverse reactions associated with ivermectin: A systematic pharmacovigilance study in sub-Saharan Africa and in the rest of the World

Avermectin Derivatives, Pharmacokinetics, Therapeutic and Toxic Dosages, Mechanism of Action, and Their Biological Effects

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

LiverTox: Clinical and Research Information on Drug-Induced Liver Injury - Bethesda (MD): National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases; 2012-Drug Records

Additionally, there is now a clinical study which shows Ivermectin to have no effect against COVID-19 in doses that are well tolerated:

Early Treatment of COVID-19 with
Repurposed Therapies: The TOGETHER Adaptive Platform Trial

And additionally, there are results in countries that did try Ivermectin, HQC and other treatments, and where the results show no effect:

Why HCQ and Ivermectin were removed from India’s Covid-19 treatment

Coronavirus: Why and how Ivermectin became a fake COVID cure, and continues to draw attention

Brazil's Main COVID Strategy Is A Cocktail Of Unproven Drugs

SHOCKING new study on ivermectin: The authors claim that the drug does not work, they talk about intimidation!

The bottom line is, those that tout Ivermectin as an effective treatment or propylactic against COVID-19 are straight up lying.

Perhaps that is why the CDC and the FDA were warning against it's use in regard to COVID-19, and that stance has not changed, even despite the couple of contradictory papers, and the social media backlash?

If no one questioned the science from pharma, we'd still be having birth defects, trans fats and healthy smoking.

There are still birth defects, trans fats, and there are kooks who maintain that smoking is healthy.

I even saw someone online saying that smokers don't seem to get hospitalized with COVID-19 as much.

Smokers Hospitalized Less Often for COVID-19

It is a controlled substance because it is dangerous, and needs to be controlled, for public safety.

What are you going on about? not everything is a controlled substance (yet) that can improve the reaction of the immune system.

Remdesivir is a controlled substance, while also being an anti-viral that is approved for medical use in particular cases against COVID-19.

It's like other controlled substances approved for medical use, like opiates & etc. There are specific medical circumstances for use, that have to be complied with.

I was one of very few people who helped get the Maori Party

So you have a history of support mass murderers that explains a lot. - Moriori genocide

I think that the European settlers, from whom I descend, are also rather culpable in that regard. They used stories that the Maori were these evil killers, to justify their own bit of violent property theft. The truth, as it usually is, is more complex than the propagandist memes of bigots.

Setting aside the Moriori myth

a reply to: chr0naut

It took 187 years to eradicate smallpox by those methods!

OMG- Considering those methods are the foundation of all types of what used to be called Vaccines that would prevent the infection.
If only they had huge amounts of modern technology and 10's of thousands of people all around the world in instant communications with each other motivated for profit they would have come up with something better.

for all you links they are countries still treating people guess with therapeutics.

Global ivermectin adoption for COVID-19: 36%


As for your myth link sorry it wasn't a genocide the Maori only killed and enslaved 90% over 30 years and it was the whites fault for not stopping them. Bloody whites not interfering in Cultural aggression.
If the NZ government had got involved it would have meant killing a lot of Maori and then where would we be. Oh right Whites are the aggressors and the poor poor minority wasn't doing anything wrong according to their culture.

But lets stop derailing this thread.

Notes on NUREMBERG. COVID vaccine deaths & adverse events reported thus far in the EU. UK. & USA.


Are government sites bias in their reporting adverse events? UK coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

The MHRA has received 564 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 1,101 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 19 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 31 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified.

So with that amount of serious adverse event you would think those numbers would count for something but apparently not

However, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths.

Strange the are willing to use the generalization of

At the time of this report, over 138,474 people across the UK have died within 28 days of a positive test for coronavirus.

No mention of

The majority of these deaths were in elderly people or people with underlying illness.

like they used with the vaccines.

So the jab kills a few 1,000 but that's ok they were old and sick so it's ok.

The benefit has been--
UK currently has had 8,734,934 cases and is increasing at a little under 100,000 a day.
Testing a million a day and finding a massive 1.4% positive.

With 45,489,980 double vaxxed and 23,000,000 without papers.
Seems like its going to be a rough winter with most need boosters and 60,000 expected to die of the flu.

Really hope they find a therapeutic soon to save lives.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

It took 187 years to eradicate smallpox by those methods!

OMG- Considering those methods are the foundation of all types of what used to be called Vaccines that would prevent the infection.

If only they had huge amounts of modern technology and 10's of thousands of people all around the world in instant communications with each other motivated for profit they would have come up with something better.

They did come up with something better in recent years.

You were just arguing that we should be using the old fashioned way of doing things instead of the new technologies? Now I'm not even sure what you meant?

for all you links they are countries still treating people guess with therapeutics.

Global ivermectin adoption for COVID-19: 36%

Why are India and Brazil still on that map? Could it be that it isn't the truth?

As for your myth link sorry it wasn't a genocide the Maori only killed and enslaved 90% over 30 years and it was the whites fault for not stopping them. Bloody whites not interfering in Cultural aggression.

If the NZ government had got involved it would have meant killing a lot of Maori and then where would we be. Oh right Whites are the aggressors and the poor poor minority wasn't doing anything wrong according to their culture.

Actually, New Zealand Wars
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But lets stop derailing this thread.

Notes on NUREMBERG. COVID vaccine deaths & adverse events reported thus far in the EU. UK. & USA.

Are government sites bias in their reporting adverse events? UK coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

The MHRA has received 564 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 1,101 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 19 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 31 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified.

So with that amount of serious adverse event you would think those numbers would count for something but apparently not

So, I don't see in your post any mention of how many doses were administered for those 1,715 deaths.

Now, when I go to the link you posted, there are significantly more deaths "138,474 people across the UK have died within 28 days of a positive test for coronavirus (COVID-19)" but this number is also tempered with the number of doses delivered: "22.9 million first doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and 24.9 million first doses of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca had been administered, and around 19.9 million and 24.1 million second doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca respectively. An approximate 1.5 million first doses and approximately 1.3 million second doses of the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna have also now been administered." For simplicity's sake, that totals to 94.6 million doses administered.

To get some idea of the potential deadliness of the vaccine, we divide 138,474 deaths by 94,600,000 which equals approximately 0.00146 of a chance of dying, per dose. Now that isn't to say that all the deaths measured were ]i]because of the vaccine. Many may have just happened in the same time frame and be unrelated to the vaccine or its effects.

However, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths.

Strange the are willing to use the generalization of

At the time of this report, over 138,474 people across the UK have died within 28 days of a positive test for coronavirus.

No mention of

The majority of these deaths were in elderly people or people with underlying illness.

like they used with the vaccines.

So the jab kills a few 1,000 but that's ok they were old and sick so it's ok.


Since, as you note, no mention was made of the age, or contributory health conditions, of those that died, you entirely made up that conclusion, which has no basis in fact.

Don't try and damn others with stuff that is entirely a product of your own imagination.

The benefit has been--
UK currently has had 8,734,934 cases and is increasing at a little under 100,000 a day.
Testing a million a day and finding a massive 1.4% positive.

With 45,489,980 double vaxxed and 23,000,000 without papers.
Seems like its going to be a rough winter with most need boosters and 60,000 expected to die of the flu.

Really hope they find a therapeutic soon to save lives.

They have found some therapeutics, most are still awaiting full approval, such as the Regeneron monoclonal antibodies (and similar) that were given to Donald Trump when he was hospitalized with COVID-19 back in October 2020.

And the numbers pf vaccinated people is slowly rising to the point where herd immunity will begin to reduce the foothold epidemic spread COVID-19 has gotten in populations around the world.

a reply to: chr0naut

Definitely ignoring you now, if you can't see the problem there is no hope for you.

They have found some therapeutics, most are still awaiting full approval, such as the Regeneron monoclonal antibodies (and similar) that were given to Donald Trump when he was hospitalized with COVID-19 back in October 2020.

OVER a year and still no approval for a treatment given to the president of the USA but a new technology and with no liability for failure we have a multi-billion dollar profit generating vaccine approved in 10 months.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

Definitely ignoring you now, if you can't see the problem there is no hope for you.

They have found some therapeutics, most are still awaiting full approval, such as the Regeneron monoclonal antibodies (and similar) that were given to Donald Trump when he was hospitalized with COVID-19 back in October 2020.

OVER a year and still no approval for a treatment given to the president of the USA but a new technology and with no liability for failure we have a multi-billion dollar profit generating vaccine approved in 10 months.

Approximate cost of one dose of the Pfizer vaccine in the USA = $19.50

Approximate cost of a box of 20x 12mg Ivermectin tablets in the USA = $108.34

Which is the bigger money spinner? LOL.

Also, President Trump only took HQC for two weeks, and then stopped, on his doctor's orders. When Trump went to hospital for COVID-19 he was treated with Regeneron's monoclonal antibodies. Not Ivermectin, or HQC.