This is the DATA, And this is alarming

originally posted by: jensouth31
There is a book called “Vaccination Condemned” by Eleanor McBean

They started vaccinating after WW1, and chapter 2 is about the Spanish Flu of 1918... only the vaccinated died. You can find snippets of this book online if you go looking for it. Same old-same old. There is nothing new under the sun 🌞

How I found the snippets... I searched “only the vaccinated got the Spanish flu”

Gave me the idea to search the national papers back in the day from Australia.
I found this quote to be both interesting, and funny.

"SMOKE UP!
Old Smoker writes in Sydney "Sun":
—"May I suggest that more people
should take to smoking the fragrant
weed as a precaution against contract-
ing this dreaded influenza, or 'epidemic
pneumonia'' as it has been diagnosed.
Tobacco is undoubtedly a powerful dis-
infectant and germicide. No doubt many
of your readers can recall the bubonic
plague outbreak about 20 years ago. It
is an established fact that thousands
who took to smoking tobacco at that
time were immune from the disease.
Besides helping to prevent contagion,
it will prove to be a harmless, enjoy-
able, and fascinating habit.

And this one. Over 100 years ago, calling for the populace to wake up due to forced lockdown.

"I am voicing
this protest because the case was not
Spanish 'flu, and in consequence of
blundering of the Health Department I
am made to suffer.—Yours, etc.,"

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
* These are charts of data, not models.
* Data shown are either raw (as downloaded) or calculated simply from the raw data.
* Data are from official sources, as shown on charts.


1) Israel, daily Child (ages 0-19) & Adult (ages 20+) Vaccinations & New Covid Cases (all ages),
20 Dec 2020 - 31 Aug 2021

2) Israel, daily Child (ages 0-19) & Adult (ages 20+) Vaccinations & Covid Hospitalisations (all ages),
20 Dec 2020 - 31 Aug 2021

3) Israel, daily Child (ages 0-19) & Adult (ages 20+) Vaccinations & New Covid Deaths (all ages),
20 Dec 2020 - 31 Aug 2021

twitter.com...


Sure reads like the vaccines are causing the waves, the variants, cases & deaths

Doesn't it

Either that... or they're vaccinating during waves variants cases and deaths

The narrative has subtly changed from the ‘vax will protect you’ to, ‘the unvaxxed are making the vaxxed sick’.

It is a small but profound change not rooted in logic or science. The end result will be frightening.

Okay, you have a bunch of graphs here you think you can see things in it that look really alarming. Why? Think you can spot patterns? Add your own spin and interpretation on top? What you are saying and trying to argue makes absolutely no sense. If epidemiologists worked on this data like you do here, we really would be fooked. And way before this pandemic, too. There is nothing remotely inferential or valuable about your analysis. Never scream raw data and pretend you actually know what to do with it. That's the job of training, science and actual commonsense. Again, what you are trying to say means nothing. Sorry.

a reply to: TritonTaranis
sure looks like an extermination to me. Shouldn't be shocked they said they would do it all along. assholes.

This article explains it all. Isreal and Pfizer had a deal in place already...

www.bloomberg.com...

originally posted by: MPoling
This article explains it all. Isreal and Pfizer had a deal in place already...

www.bloomberg.com...

WOW!! You should make this an OP! The article really does say it all!! And, I can't stand Blooomberg as a source, but WOW, WOW, WOW!! Coming from the left leaning, the message is 10x more powerful!!

Absolutely STAGGERING, and frankly vomit-worthy! All this really isn't about a virus, it's about $$$$. We've all heard this before, but seeing it in black and white like this is just shocking beyond the pale!

Everyone in America, and the rest of the World, needs to read this article!

A little off topic covid Mu stuff. this article explains a little about the Mu and VOI classification. Presently there is only extra possible future risk increases.

scitechdaily.com...

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
If the vaccinated can become asymptomatic super spreaders like Mary Mallon; Typhoid Mary, then the vaccinations would accelerate the spread of the virus. Asymptomatic spreaders, don't feel sick, don't self isolate and continue to spread the disease.

How can that work with mRNA vaxes? There is no covid virus involved, dead or alive.

originally posted by: MrNewWorldOrder

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
* These are charts of data, not models.
* Data shown are either raw (as downloaded) or calculated simply from the raw data.
* Data are from official sources, as shown on charts.


1) Israel, daily Child (ages 0-19) & Adult (ages 20+) Vaccinations & New Covid Cases (all ages),
20 Dec 2020 - 31 Aug 2021

2) Israel, daily Child (ages 0-19) & Adult (ages 20+) Vaccinations & Covid Hospitalisations (all ages),
20 Dec 2020 - 31 Aug 2021

3) Israel, daily Child (ages 0-19) & Adult (ages 20+) Vaccinations & New Covid Deaths (all ages),
20 Dec 2020 - 31 Aug 2021

twitter.com...


Sure reads like the vaccines are causing the waves, the variants, cases & deaths

Doesn't it

Either that... or they're vaccinating during waves variants cases and deaths

The narrative has subtly changed from the ‘vax will protect you’ to, ‘the unvaxxed are making the vaxxed sick’.

It is a small but profound change not rooted in logic or science. The end result will be frightening.

Okay, you have a bunch of graphs here you think you can see things in it that look really alarming. Why? Think you can spot patterns? Add your own spin and interpretation on top? What you are saying and trying to argue makes absolutely no sense. If epidemiologists worked on this data like you do here, we really would be fooked. And way before this pandemic, too. There is nothing remotely inferential or valuable about your analysis. Never scream raw data and pretend you actually know what to do with it. That's the job of training, science and actual commonsense. Again, what you are trying to say means nothing. Sorry.

Actually the data speaks if your are adroit enough to interpret it correctly. It shows the Israeli's are F#$&ed. Don't be sorry that you are unable to comprehend it.

originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: elementalgrove

The vaccines were never meant to give sterilizing immunity. They were developed to keep you out of the hospital, since healthcare resources were stretched past their limit.

Do you really believe that? Spoken like someone who is vaxed and is rationalizing. Good luck to you.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

You could also say that since most people that get it don't even know they have it or get the sniffles and develop antibodies naturally(said natural antibodies are also said by some to be stronger and/or longer lasting than a vaccine) are causing varients. It goes both ways. Viruses mutate. It was inevitable just as any other virus. It will become a common cold eventually. I just wish people didn't have to die cause someone ate an uncooked bat or undercooked bat or cause someone made a mistake at a lab or someone let out a bioweapon that is miniscule compared to what they could have released.

Interesting that the death rate in near fully vaccinated countries is so much higher than India, where the population has very few vaccinated citizens but widespread use of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin among the population for anti-malaria and anti-parasite purposes. Would love to trust the science, but when we ask we just get horse memes.

a reply to: bladerunner44

Well, the truth isn't as glamorous as some of the things I'm reading in these threads.

a reply to: bladerunner44

How exactly?

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Yeah, would like to see charts on the Delta and any other variants that may have hit there close to the same time.

And also charts on what phase of vaccinations people were at are interesting, but I'm not entirely sure I'm looking at them correctly, plus I'll have to blow them up to be able to read all the data.

It almost looks like the lockdowns, other measures, and vaccines brought it down then something brought it back up.

That something could be a combination of a bunch of things: New variants, natural immunity and vaccine effectiveness waning, relaxing the measures.

ETA: This might go to the reason Israel just put a time limit on vaccine passports too. Six months from last vaccine.

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
If the vaccinated can become asymptomatic super spreaders like Mary Mallon; Typhoid Mary, then the vaccinations would accelerate the spread of the virus. Asymptomatic spreaders, don't feel sick, don't self isolate and continue to spread the disease.

How can that work with mRNA vaxes? There is no covid virus involved, dead or alive.

Easy. They get infected with covid and their symptoms are reduced by the vaccine, but they still spread it like an asymptomatic carrier, which is what mary mallon was for typhoid. It's not really that hard to understand.

a reply to: SentientBunnySuit

Sure if you trust Indias numbers to be anything near accurate.

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
If the vaccinated can become asymptomatic super spreaders like Mary Mallon; Typhoid Mary, then the vaccinations would accelerate the spread of the virus. Asymptomatic spreaders, don't feel sick, don't self isolate and continue to spread the disease.

How can that work with mRNA vaxes? There is no covid virus involved, dead or alive.

Easy. They get infected with covid and their symptoms are reduced by the vaccine, but they still spread it like an asymptomatic carrier, which is what mary mallon was for typhoid. It's not really that hard to understand.

Similarly to those that are unvaxed but have asymptomatic covid?

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
* These are charts of data, not models.

THE DATA CLEARLY SHOWS EVERYONE NEEDS A 4TH SHOT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!

[/sarc] [/cringe]

a reply to: marg6043

Do not forget phamaceutical Immunosuppressant Drugs we all have taken the medications in the list, this how people immune system is failing and many have not idea why.

Don't forget that antipsychotic drugs such as Respiridone can also suppress the immune system.

They are also pretty popular prescriptions.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
* These are charts of data, not models.

THE DATA CLEARLY SHOWS EVERYONE NEEDS A 4TH SHOT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!

[/sarc] [/cringe]

Then weekly shots.

Eventually daily shots.

Then plug everyone into matrix.

Just more efficient that way.



Nobody can stop at just one shot.