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The IDs of the Parties involved in the 2007 Nimitz UFO Video Leak are Known!!!

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posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 05:34 AM
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a reply to: Eiskind



It's possible that Jeremy already had the video before the "official" release. I think it shouldn't be surprising that people like him have much more material than is publicly available.


If he had it on Jan 2nd 2016 [as demonstrated] then that is over 20 months before Elizondo applied for the videos release in Aug 2017.



Source : FOI Docs : Gimbal, GoFast and FLIR Release Requests.

Now what would a guy like Corbell be doing with US Navy footage if it hadn't been released? That would be illegal wouldn't it? Same as acquiring materials supposedly leaked off the Nimitz in 2004.

He's not a fully fledged member of TTSA of course. But we can hazard a guess when he became an affiliate as part of the Vegas UFO Mob can't we?



The same old characters time and time and again keep messing around in American ufology. Still peddling stories going back to the 1980s.





posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 07:48 AM
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If he had it on Jan 2nd 2016 [as demonstrated] then that is over 20 months before Elizondo applied for the videos release in Aug 2017.


I'm aware. But like I said: I don't really find it surprising that certain people had the video before. It should be clear that there is material that is not immediately shared or published. I know what your point is, but I think everyone who has a little bit of knowledge about the game knows how it works.




Now what would a guy like Corbell be doing with US Navy footage if it hadn't been released? That would be illegal wouldn't it? Same as acquiring materials supposedly leaked off the Nimitz in 2004.


Of course, that's why the video was set to private
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He's not a fully fledged member of TTSA of course. But we can hazard a guess when he became an affiliate as part of the Vegas UFO Mob can't we?

The same old characters time and time and again keep messing around in American ufology. Still peddling stories going back to the 1980s.


Ufology needs stories. Without stories there are no books, documentaries etc. that you can sell.

But does that mean that everything is fake? I think not.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: mirageman


The same old characters time and time and again keep messing around in American ufology. Still peddling stories going back to the 1980s.




Never ending story.




posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 10:52 PM
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I just want to say thank you mirage man for exposing these charlatans



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 11:26 AM
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Props to the truth seekers screaming into the void, challenging the groupthink and feedback loop. We need people questioning what they're presented with.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Eiskind




Ufology needs stories. Without stories there are no books, documentaries etc. that you can sell.

But does that mean that everything is fake? I think not.


Nope not everything is fake. But nor does everything unknown or unidentified in the sky point to aliens. Hessdalen is an interesting area where strange aerial phenomena can be observed. Low budget studies have been conducted for nearly 40 years there. No one is pointing to it being aliens.

The problem with ufology is that it isn't a proper science. In fact many people don't understand science or even welcome a scientific approach. There is deep reluctance to resolve cases with prosaic explanations even when the evidence is staring people in the face.

Instead many people seem to prefer to preserve a mystery and therefore possibility that aliens were to blame. And that's why you get all these grifters and ufotainers involved [no copyright to worry about either!]. That's showbiz.

Plus of the course the strange and overt meddling by members of the intelligence community of the United States in the subject. No other country seems to be affected by this. America seems to be a special case for some reason. And that's where the majority of UFO crash stories, alien abduction stories and cattle mutilation linked to aliens seem to occur.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Eiskind




Ufology needs stories. Without stories there are no books, documentaries etc. that you can sell.

But does that mean that everything is fake? I think not.


Nope not everything is fake. But nor does everything unknown or unidentified in the sky point to aliens. Hessdalen is an interesting area where strange aerial phenomena can be observed. Low budget studies have been conducted for nearly 40 years there. No one is pointing to it being aliens.

The problem with ufology is that it isn't a proper science. In fact many people don't understand science or even welcome a scientific approach. There is deep reluctance to resolve cases with prosaic explanations even when the evidence is staring people in the face.

Instead many people seem to prefer to preserve a mystery and therefore possibility that aliens were to blame. And that's why you get all these grifters and ufotainers involved [no copyright to worry about either!]. That's showbiz.

Plus of the course the strange and overt meddling by members of the intelligence community of the United States in the subject. No other country seems to be affected by this. America seems to be a special case for some reason. And that's where the majority of UFO crash stories, alien abduction stories and cattle mutilation linked to aliens seem to occur.




Aren't you tired of being wrong....jeez....





posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: celltypespecific


Aren't you tired of being wrong....jeez....





Your reply makes no sense. Have you been drinking or taking something?



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: mirageman

Cellty is fun to watch. Got my popcorn out MM.






posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

It's rather infuriating.



posted on Jul, 29 2020 @ 12:00 AM
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a reply to: celltypespecific


You do seem drunk.



posted on Jul, 29 2020 @ 01:18 AM
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a reply to: KansasGirl

I suspect Cellty likes to cause a few reactions from us poor wayward soul's . At least thats how it appears.



edit on 29-7-2020 by Baablacksheep because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 29 2020 @ 05:27 AM
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Here's what the NY TImes claimed Cellty!!!!



Mr. Davis said he also gave classified briefings on retrievals of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Oct. 21, 2019, and to staff members of the Senate Intelligence Committee two days later.

Committee staff members did not respond to requests for comment on the issue.

No Longer in Shadows, Pentagon’s U.F.O. Unit Will Make Some Findings Public


The problem is that the official record does not back up this claim. Something the journalists did not mention.

There isn't any record of Senate Armed Service Committee Hearings on Mon Oct 21st 2019.



Source : Committee on Armed Services Hearings and Archived Link

There were no No SSCI Meetings two days later on Wed 23rd Oct 2019. [The record confirms all CLOSED hearings].



Source : www.intelligence.senate.gov... and Archived Link


I can post the same thing on different threads too.



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 02:28 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

This looks to be very suspect. Ok, so he/they are obviously creating a fuss about this. It looks sensational on the surface, yet doesn't hold up to deeper scrutiny. I'm highly curious about their true motivation? "They", as in the merry old TTSA gang and their lackeys. I would honestly be disappointed if this was only for monetary gains.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 09:56 AM
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To concisely summarize this thread with the questions that remain?

■ Why did this story take over two years to surface and then 10 years for TTSA to resurrect it?


■ Why has a 16 year old story remained TTSA's main focus for 3 years?

They see this as a threat after 16 years but there's nothing else they've got?

■ Why did the TV series "Carrier", [filmed aboard the Nimitz just 6 months after the alleged incident] make no mention of any UFO incident?


■ Why did Fravor not even bother to switch his own camera on to film said UFO?

A trained observer and highly experienced pilot proved useless in the most important moment in human history if he is to be believed

■ Why did TFT [the alleged original story leaker] post two entirely different stories about the Nimitz UFO incident just a day apart in 2007?


■ Why did TFT [a supposed IT technician] need a foreign national, Cometa, to upload the video onto a public web server of a German film company for him?

Wouldn't an IT technician have the necessary skills and knowledge? The video was also reduced in quality?

■ Why was Doug Kurth told to "skip it" and return to the Nimitz when he was in closer proximity to the so called tic-tac than anyone else?

■ Why did 'Doug Kurth then join Bigelow at BAASS?

He did so before the AAWSAP contract was even put out to tender in 2008 and appears to have managed studies at Skinwalker Ranch

■ Why did the Pentagon claim the ".....the widespread distribution of the recording within the ship at the time of recording, and the size of the crew at the time (approximately 5,000), it was determined that there was no way to accurately determine who might have released the video"?

There is no indication that the video was widely distributed. Nor, surely, would 5000 crew members have access to the video if proper security protocols were observed

■ Why did Isaac Koi vigorously pursue both TFT and Cometa's personal details and seek to acquire potentially classified data?

His evasiveness in responding to questions about his own declarations are here for all to see

■ Why did TFT supposedly return to ATS in 2019, confirming his identity to GUT and Isaac Koi and then tell Popular Mechanics [Tim McMillan] shortly afterwards he still feared repercussions over his actions?

■ Why did Tim McMillan really parachute into ufology? Seemingly taking a huge pay cut for a career infiltrating social media and guesting on thousands of podcasts.

Few believe he really moved to Germany to do podcasts and blog for a living for peanuts. So what is he really up to in relation to this whole story?

■ Why did Bigelow Patent a stealth satellite in late 2004 after closing NIDS?

■ Why was Bigelow the winner of [and only bidder for] the AAWSAP contract?

■ Did AATIP even exist beyond a sort of imagined project by the Bigelow UFO Mob?

There isn't a lot to prove it wasn't just a sweetheart deal for Bigelow to go UFO hunting with his gang of goons. Or perhaps just a sweetheart deal

■ Why was Fravor happy to talk to Pacho Chierci in 2015 so soon after investigators from a 3 letter agency had questioned him about the Nimitz incident?

What inspired that article in the first place?

■ Should we believe Jeremy Corbell and that he didn't have the GoFast video before TTSA published it? Even though he then deleted the evidence that would actually have proved it?

Weaponize your curiosity and fire it his way

■ Who leaked 2 of the DIRD papers to Coorey Goode?

More importantly why did they leak them to such a charlatan?

■ Finally why did TTSA employ a bunch of neuroscientists and why does no journalist ever ask why?



As usual more questions than answers in this field..



edit on 31/7/2020 by mirageman because: ...



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

Nice work as usual, MM!

One of the most interesting things to me with the whole AATIP ruse is the neuroscience angle; as you pointed out, why is their “staff” so stacked with people in that field??? A traumatic brain injury specialist??

And yeah, why hasn’t Leslie Kean looked into that? She has so much “journalistic integrity,” according to so many posters to this thread. Did she not notice?



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: mirageman
To concisely summarize this thread with the questions that remain?

■ Why did this story take over two years to surface and then 10 years for TTSA to resurrect it?


■ Why has a 16 year old story remained TTSA's main focus for 3 years?

They see this as a threat after 16 years but there's nothing else they've got?

■ Why did the TV series "Carrier", [filmed aboard the Nimitz just 6 months after the alleged incident] make no mention of any UFO incident?


■ Why did Fravor not even bother to switch his own camera on to film said UFO?

A trained observer and highly experienced pilot proved useless in the most important moment in human history if he is to be believed

■ Why did TFT [the alleged original story leaker] post two entirely different stories about the Nimitz UFO incident just a day apart in 2007?


■ Why did TFT [a supposed IT technician] need a foreign national, Cometa, to upload the video onto a public web server of a German film company for him?

Wouldn't an IT technician have the necessary skills and knowledge? The video was also reduced in quality?

■ Why was Doug Kurth told to "skip it" and return to the Nimitz when he was in closer proximity to the so called tic-tac than anyone else?

■ Why did 'Doug Kurth then join Bigelow at BAASS?

He did so before the AAWSAP contract was even put out to tender in 2008 and appears to have managed studies at Skinwalker Ranch

■ Why did the Pentagon claim the ".....the widespread distribution of the recording within the ship at the time of recording, and the size of the crew at the time (approximately 5,000), it was determined that there was no way to accurately determine who might have released the video"?

There is no indication that the video was widely distributed. Nor, surely, would 5000 crew members have access to the video if proper security protocols were observed

■ Why did Isaac Koi vigorously pursue both TFT and Cometa's personal details and seek to acquire potentially classified data?

His evasiveness in responding to questions about his own declarations are here for all to see

■ Why did TFT supposedly return to ATS in 2019, confirming his identity to GUT and Isaac Koi and then tell Popular Mechanics [Tim McMillan] shortly afterwards he still feared repercussions over his actions?

■ Why did Tim McMillan really parachute into ufology? Seemingly taking a huge pay cut for a career infiltrating social media and guesting on thousands of podcasts.

Few believe he really moved to Germany to do podcasts and blog for a living for peanuts. So what is he really up to in relation to this whole story?

■ Why did Bigelow Patent a stealth satellite in late 2004 after closing NIDS?

■ Why was Bigelow the winner of [and only bidder for] the AAWSAP contract?

■ Did AATIP even exist beyond a sort of imagined project by the Bigelow UFO Mob?

There isn't a lot to prove it wasn't just a sweetheart deal for Bigelow to go UFO hunting with his gang of goons. Or perhaps just a sweetheart deal

■ Why was Fravor happy to talk to Pacho Chierci in 2015 so soon after investigators from a 3 letter agency had questioned him about the Nimitz incident?

What inspired that article in the first place?

■ Should we believe Jeremy Corbell and that he didn't have the GoFast video before TTSA published it? Even though he then deleted the evidence that would actually have proved it?

Weaponize your curiosity and fire it his way

■ Who leaked 2 of the DIRD papers to Coorey Goode?

More importantly why did they leak them to such a charlatan?

■ Finally why did TTSA employ a bunch of neuroscientists and why does no journalist ever ask why?



As usual more questions than answers in this field..




Since Dec 16 2017 you have been WRONG WRONG WRONG.... from AATIP...to Lue Elizondo...to Chris Mellon.

Once again don't you get tired of being wrong...?

Anyhow whatever makes you happy... life is short


Happy Friday everyone!!!!

CHEERS!!!!!!!!
edit on 31-7-2020 by celltypespecific because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 12:34 PM
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One reason for all the neuroscientists and biologists could be what researcher Elaine Douglass' sources within MUFON told her after Bigelow started siphoning off experiencer accounts:




You also hear this in the recently released Kit Green tape with the psychic. He just ignores everything she says about underwater bases and alien races. He just wants to talk about the physical effects on the experiencers of anomalous events.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 12:43 PM
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Where can i see this green-psychic interview?



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: PHDIKOULAS

There's a transcript here: www.ufojoe.net...

I have not heard the actual tape.

No endorsement of the increasingly Woo Woo UFO Joe implied.



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