Covid 19. The majority of us are thinking this so why not say it

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: chr0naut

So then protect the retirees.

Many of them are on sources of income that do not depend on actively working outside the home. They can stay shuttered much more easily than the rest of us can afford to.

Continue the extra cleaning measures and special shopping hours for them and let them stay cloistered.

Sounds reasonable.

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: chr0naut

What was changed

I thought I made that clear in the OP . Let me try again .

Never in the history of the entire world has the medical community chosen to lock down , restricted or choose your word. For what was done to a entire nation of healthy people .

I gave you links and asked where in their pre-planned strategies for handling pandemics . They ever brought up the possibility of restricting every healthy person‘s movements .

You definitely won’t find it prior to Covid 19 . Although I haven’t been able to , you might be able to find it mentioned recently .


So let’s readdress the question hypothetically . But also taking into consideration the assessment I’ve held and even defended of you.

Our views might be drastically different but at least you’re honest .

If you found that the CDC suddenly trash caned their 60 year old plan of attack in favor of a position that will cause irreparable harm to the world.

Would you find that move to be at the very least suspicious ?

I thought the decision (or otherwise) to lock-down was that of state and city governments.

a reply to: chr0naut

No, we wave hello around here but don’t live on top of each other In filthy conditions with rats and cockroaches like the whole of NYC, Chicago, etc...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: chr0naut

Yes. As I said, since the daily change in positives is very small compared to the accumulated number if cases, it doesn't show up well on a graph which shows accumulated cases. It's a problem of scaling of the vertical axis. The more accumulated cases there are, the greater the problem with the chart. One chart has a vertical axis in the thousands, the other in the millions.

Nevertheless your statement was incorrect. Which is all I was pointing out.

If you look at the trajectory of the curve of infections, the US is still increasing

(Something got weird with the reply thing. But I think the point is clear.)

a reply to: Fallingdown

I don’t report anything I’m not a Democrat .

Triggered much? I'm far from a democrat.

Your question was so silly about herd immunity I thought that was the sarcasm .

Then stop being so certain that a fast evolving and easily commutable infection can be "herd immunizated" against.

Are you intending on playing that silly little game where one respiratory virus is different from the other respiratory virus because of the word flu?’

Nah I'll play another. Name one human disease that we've gifted to another species that hasn't been absolutely devastating.

Just 1. Then I might think you're not another picture on the wall.

originally posted by: abeverage

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: spacedoubt

No. No. No.
Testing is bad. There is too much testing. Testing is the problem.

When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.

www.politico.com...

I'm kidding. I think testing is good. I think contact tracing is also good.

Consented contact tracing is good, tracing because they can with cell phone data is illegal (well until we all consent to passing a law for the betterment of humanity...)

What about...
Ahem.

Terrorists?

I reckon I could get my hands on a few tests if I really wanted to. Reckon some nefarious group could too? I do.

Ahhh

Member when propaganda was scary?

a reply to: Phage

Ultimately phage this is the evidence. Yet people can't grasp it.

But no symptoms means no infection. Duh

So obviously we need to test and track, I mean it's just the flu and I'm 29. I'll live. Yet I know you don't go around adding new diseases to the gene pool willy nilly.

a reply to: RAY1990

No

All communicable diseases of this nature can be remedied by heard immunity . That’s a certainty and simple math .



Swine flu 1978 and that’s without breaking a sweat .

Your turn and this should be easy .

Tell me what herd immunity is and how it works .

originally posted by: chr0naut
Before the herd immunity (80% carrying antibodies and with immune response), comes the time when 80% of everyone in the US gets this. That would be roughly 264,000,000 infected people.

At the current death rate of 6% of those infected, that is 15,840,000 people dead.

thank you for your woefully uninformed guesstimates of doom-porn.

Now, go have yourself a nice warm glass of milk and a cookie, its past your bed time.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: chr0naut
So then protect the retirees.
...
Continue the extra cleaning measures and special shopping hours for them and let them stay cloistered.

This is all that should have ever been done, but I'd add, Group homes should have been locked down tight - caretakers with them, with any/all supplies provided as needed.

Then let it run wild. It would have been over and done in a few weeks, with none of the insane, economy/LIFE destroying poop-in-pants little girlie chicken-# insanity we're all being forced to endure right now.

a reply to: tanstaafl

It would have been over and done in a few weeks

Sure. Just like in 1918. Just a few weeks.

a reply to: tanstaafl

well it appears you are right experts willing to put their names and careers on the line not hide behind a phake screenname


HCQ was a known prevention in Feb, and the virus is only level 1 and world should open up may 25th after everyone gets vitamin and immune system boost.

a reply to: bender151
So you have to belittle the people who disagree with you. "so a few jackholes can have a beer?" Really? Why don't you crawl back under your rock and stay there for a while?

It's a lot more than "so a few jackholes can have a beer?" How about so people can work and earn a living? How about so people don't lose their businesses, their life's work and their life's savings.

I have a friend who just spent two years in training and every cent that he has and quite a bit that he doesn't, to buy a franchise. Now he's out of work, doesn't qualify for unemployment and can't get any Federal help because he hasn't opened his business.

No to you it is all about "so a few jackholes can have a beer?".

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: tanstaafl
"It would have been over and done in a few weeks"

Sure. Just like in 1918. Just a few weeks.

This isn't 1918.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: tanstaafl
HCQ was a known prevention in Feb, and the virus is only level 1 and world should open up may 25th after everyone gets vitamin and immune system boost.

Please stop doing what the MSM is doing...

It isn't just HCQ... it is the combination of HCQ and Zinc. This study reveals the inconsistencies in the studies - it is due to intentionally constructing the study so as to fail - in this case, by simply omitting the Zinc...

a reply to: ketsuko

This just in from WTF News...........

" CDC now says coronavirus 'does not spread easily' via contaminated surfaces "


Though it’s not exactly clear when, the federal health agency appears to have recently changed its guidelines from early March that simply said it “may be possible” to spread the virus from contaminated surfaces. The CDC now includes "surfaces or objects" under a section that details ways in which the coronavirus does not readily transmit.




www.foxnews.com...



I am Still waiting for them to Admit that they have Lied to the Public Since the World was " Locked Down " ........

a reply to: tanstaafl


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a reply to: Phage

The idea that if you don't test, no one is sick, is mind shatteringly stupid..even for Trump.

a reply to: chr0naut

It is and was.

That's a cable news and newsletter talking point for the last few weeks. This site used to have some standards.