Is any of the Coronavirus news true?

originally posted by: Graysen

So it's real. I am not posting pics and GPS coordinates for the same reason no one else it. People get fired for talking about how bad things are.

Don't worry. In another 2 weeks you'll have your own anecdotes, first-hand.

I am not claiming it isn't real but maybe some people are. I am telling people to be safe. The video in the OP is eerie and there are misleading news reports being broadcast to the masses. What else are they falsifying? I am interested in seeing if death certificates are actually being falsified either way, showing non-cases or cases as the primary cause. That will be difficult to prove.

Also, none of our main floors are "full" as of this week. ER is calm with 4-5 vents on standby. I don't live in a major city, so maybe that's why but your anecdotal evidence may only represent your area. I work firsthand in the field so I don't need any second-hand reports to tell me what's going on in my neck-of-the-woods. I can see things for myself. It may get worse, I'm not denying that, but for now things are thankfully calm.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: havok

There are reports ??? Prove it.
Link those reports. Let's see the interviews.

I don't have to prove anything to you, Sillyolme. I literally said I want to find the evidence in a previous post. Rather than waste my energy on your dismissal of anything conspiracy related, what exactly are you doing on a conspiracy site? Your posts never cease to amaze me. All the anecdotes and he-said-she-said ideas are exactly what I'd like to have proof of, but sometimes it's not easy to find.

We are trying to deny ignorance here on ATS, myself included. That means I question the official narrative. My entire premise to this pandemic is what will they try to take from us when it calms down? What rights are they looking to eliminate? Let's hope that I am wrong and TPTB are not going to pass some bill with more trampling of our rights over this. Oh wait. They are already working on that.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: havok
There are reports of hospitals telling staff to mark the Death Certificates cause as "Covid 19" first no matter what caused the death and the remaining illness to be named secondary.

The way I read about it was this: If a person dies of normal causes, infection, pneumonia, cancer, what have you, the cause of death must be blamed on the virus. Why? To inflate numbers? To increase panic? Control?

What gives?

Do you have links? This is a pretty serious claim, one I haven't seen yet.

He might be referring to this but that is fake news, at least in the U.S. it is. I have no idea if such claims are credible anywhere else.

That would make sense I guess as, around the rest of the world, it is widely regarded that the death is being under reported due to the underlying health conditions being listed as the c.o.d over Covid-19

a reply to: djz3ro

i called this bull# on the 10th of mach on my podcast and have done again on my latest one. Its all a beta for somthing more in 5/10 years

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: havok
There are reports of hospitals telling staff to mark the Death Certificates cause as "Covid 19" first no matter what caused the death and the remaining illness to be named secondary.

The way I read about it was this: If a person dies of normal causes, infection, pneumonia, cancer, what have you, the cause of death must be blamed on the virus. Why? To inflate numbers? To increase panic? Control?

What gives?

Do you have links? This is a pretty serious claim, one I haven't seen yet.

He might be referring to this but that is fake news, at least in the U.S. it is. I have no idea if such claims are credible anywhere else.

That would make sense I guess as, around the rest of the world, it is widely regarded that the death is being under reported due to the underlying health conditions being listed as the c.o.d over Covid-19

We've been hearing the opposite in the U.S. For example, I've seen reports that in Italy there are cases where people had as many as 3 major underlying medical conditions that contributed to their death, but they were counted as Covid-19 deaths. But who the hell knows?

originally posted by: fernalley
a reply to: muzzleflash

The Pentagon was actually the ones behind the Corona Hoax and they even directed the global response via the UN and military channels. The Security Council rules Earth and China, Russia, the UK, and France worked in concert with the US Pentagon's joint project to hoax everyone.

So what is their goal?

Hi fern.

That's a good question.

I think it appears to be both experimental, to see how we react, and to use it to restructure society and the economy in general.

They are using it to change how we treat each other - less personally and less compassionately - and to fear everyone as carriers of the invisible enemy. It's more subtle and powerful than fears of terrorists because now everyone is the danger in all situations.

They can use this to arrest and detain virtually anyone by claiming they are either diseased or Quarantine breakers. Huge loophole to human rights that the public will accept due to "medical emergency" which will make us feel safer as they take prisoners rather than being alarmed by the police state oppression.

In terms of the economy they are giving it a complete overhaul and by putting millions out of work they are justifying the printing of trillions of dollars to "fix" the problem.

The real problem was that the US dollar deflated drastically and became too valuable. This is because there's only so much currency in circulation and there are a lot of new millionaires, corporations, etc, stashing it away in their accounts removing $ from circulation and not enough new loans to return liquidity to the market.

They had to print trillions just to keep the situation balanced, and I think they'll need to print around 10 trillion more within the next few years just to keep the dollar from becoming too valuable.

Wti crude oil was 20$ a barrel this morning and up to 25$ currently as people realize the great investment offered by these prices. Demand is low and Russia and Saudi way over produced. So 1$ goes way further than it did months ago, 5 times further.

So I believe that's at least 3 objectives they are after, there might be more. To mold our psychology into fearful anti-human behavior, to expand govt powers, and to fix the bankrupt economy. I'm sure there are more birds to hit with this stone, like I'm thinking they want to purge the homeless population but that's developing and we'll find out soon.

In a big way they wanted to see if we'd willingly give up our Rights without any resistance so long as top WHO doctors prescribed it. For safety reasons.

Keep in mind, no one consulted the public for a debate on all these drastic measures or policy shifts - they just carte blanche implemented them despotically.

What's most interesting is the success of the world govt joint operations, seeing everyone work together to oppress their populations. It's a huge flex of United Nations power and very surprising everyone willingly went with it. Most citizens wanted it and will enact it diligently no matter how absurd the new policy is.

So really, it's about power. In a nut shell.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: glend

How many cases does South Carolina have?I

You can look it up.

Oh look SC has 184 people hospitalzed.

I'm betting they are not all in one hospital either.

So not surprising no one is seeing this there.

I'm in a bigger city near Norfolk VA and there are no lines here yet but my city has less than 20 cases so I wouldn't expect to see lines.

I feel for the deniers because the next few weeks are going to be very hard on folks.

Not denying anything. Just looking for answers. My feeling is that authorities might have sent all covid-19 cases to individual hospitals to reduce chance of covid-19 infecting all medical staff in all hospitals. Media has not forwarded this information. So people are getting the wrong impressions that all hospitals are at the brink of collapse. Whereas in reality many remain near empty waiting to handle greater influx.

CBS has admitted to using the Italian hospital footage. They said it was an "editing mistake."

Translation: "#, we got caught."

I just got tested for covid 19. I had a fever and a dry cough for a couple of days, I tested negative for flu and strep. So my pcp sent me to Christiansburg, ah hour away, to get tested. I really didn't know what to expect when I got there. Well I was the only one there, and for the 30 minutes I waited, I never saw anyone else.

I've said this in a different thread, but since late December or early January, I've been hearing "just wait it coming" or "in two weeks we're going to look like a third world country" I've been hearing this narrative for quite some time now, and I can't help but wonder if the predictions are just flat wrong. I like a lot of Americans are out of work because of this, and I think we all deserve a straight answer. But we will only get that if we find it ourselves, Noone is going to give it to us. Especially the media.

Just thinking.

Maybe this is our simulated run for if terrorists release somekind of contagious virus or disease, that way we are rehearsed in what to do if it happens.

It just feels like 'The War of the Worlds' but without the aliens.

Thats enough for today, time for bed.

originally posted by: Oppositeoftruth
I've said this in a different thread, but since late December or early January, I've been hearing "just wait it coming" or "in two weeks we're going to look like a third world country" I've been hearing this narrative for quite some time now

Yup, just like the climate predictions. In another 10 or 20 years. 10 or 20 years go by, predictions way off, embarrassment. Now they've finally gotten smart and they say everything will happen 50 or 100 years from now so they never have to deal with being wrong.

a reply to: face23785

Yep. I think eventually, if we want even a chance of getting things back on track, we're just going to have to say F it. What happens, happens. We can't all just coward inside avoiding people for the rest of our lives. I've been "quarantined" for 2 days now.... And I'm about to loose my flippin mind. I want to be out, I want to work, hell I would just like to go shopping for something that I don't even need!

I think coming out of this, I can see masks being the norm for a while, and that's fine, whatever. But damn, something has got to give, and if we keep up the constant doom porn nobody is going to be willing to even try.

But of course maybe that's the plan.

a reply to: muzzleflash

So I believe that's at least 3 objectives they are after, there might be more. To mold our psychology into fearful anti-human behavior, to expand govt powers, and to fix the bankrupt economy. I'm sure there are more birds to hit with this stone, like I'm thinking they want to purge the homeless population but that's developing and we'll find out soon.

So they are using the Hegelian Dialectic on us- Problem, reaction, solution. And it is working.
I thought Trump was against this UN NWO and I still do. The WHO and UN are starting to merge climate change with this pandemic so their Agenda is still on. The UN wants trillions of dollars sent to developing countries to battle this.
Perhaps Trump is also using it for his own economic advantage as well but is the UNSC all on the same page? It does seem possible.
In other words this was planned all along?

Has anyone looked on YouTube for amateur vids contradicting the OP? All I can find are MSM videos of hospitals "overrun" and overwhelmed, but it seems like every amateur video is of a whole lot of nothing. Surely there are some citizen journalists who would want to go out and disprove these wild conspiracy theories, if that's all they are?

a reply to: glend

I still continue to believe that we may simply be operating under extremely poor models that predicted an apocalyptic type spread and death rate.

So what you are saying may be correct.

The key here is having the media being caught in lies makes it impossible for the average citizen to make informed decisions.

We simply want to know the truth.

But if scientists can be this wrong without personal consequences what does that mean for the future?

Do we destroy the world economy every time chicken little screams the sky is falling? Then do we subsequently get taken by wolves because the one time they get it right we no longer believe them?

The media and scientists need to be held accountable to the people whose lives they have destroyed.

originally posted by: Oppositeoftruth
I just got tested for covid 19. I had a fever and a dry cough for a couple of days, I tested negative for flu and strep. So my pcp sent me to Christiansburg, ah hour away, to get tested. I really didn't know what to expect when I got there. Well I was the only one there, and for the 30 minutes I waited, I never saw anyone else.

I've said this in a different thread, but since late December or early January, I've been hearing "just wait it coming" or "in two weeks we're going to look like a third world country" I've been hearing this narrative for quite some time now, and I can't help but wonder if the predictions are just flat wrong. I like a lot of Americans are out of work because of this, and I think we all deserve a straight answer. But we will only get that if we find it ourselves, Noone is going to give it to us. Especially the media.

Can I ask if you mean Christiansburg, Va? i live about 45 mins from there and was just curious. I really don't know what to believe either but i can tell you I have always thought the news would sensationalize this and I think they have. After watching the OP video I won't blindly believe what they are saying. I'm not gonna just say it's all a big hoax. I will search for more independent reports outside of the MSM on how bad things really are. I agree with a poster who said where are all the social media posts by people directly affected by this virus? I hope for the best and after watching too much sensationalized footage, I at least have snapped out of fear mode and became genuinely curious.

a reply to: Isurrender73

Totally agree. Also if one bat can take out globalization then globalization also needs to be scrutinized.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

A manufactured virus has allowed for a manufactured economic crisis to exist is probably the simplest way to put it.

There is a virus.
According to the mainstream media (MSM), it's the BESTEST virus that cannot be detected weeks before you have it, can transfer in all the ways and is staved off by none of the ways and is accounting for an ever-mounting number of victims.

There WAS a serious economic issue.
Everyone following the stock market or especially the website Zero Hedge for the last several years would have seen hundreds if not thousands of articles pertaining to the economy being magically held up and about to crash ever since the crisis of 2008. Many articles even predicted this back in the good old days of January 2020 when all was swell.
The reason they say it's magically held up, is because it truly IS a false economy governed by the oligarchs that control it. You won't find as many articles about that, but there are still many.

There is little you can trust
The media is blasting propaganda 24/7 from the TVs that people are forced to watch in their lockdowns at home.
Most of the reporters themselves aren't outright lying rather than just reading from whatever script they are handed. Others, like Anderson Cooper, an ex CIA employee who will inherit the Vanderbilt fortune ARE outright lying to you and much worse. The scientists and researchers also include both factions of innocent victims and willing participants.
The numbers are most certainly skewed with much of the infection/death rates being attributed to Coronavirus when there are other factors.
They have been doing the same thing with attributing deaths to tobacco use for the last 20 years plus.
We STILL have no concrete evidence that the tests are trustworthy and should be questioning every strange back and forth piece of information we've seen about these tests.
We have no solid information on what helps treat the virus. There's much speculation on this or that and how best to provide said treatment. Are the hospitals full or are they empty? We're not being told the truth from many aspects. The public is experiencing a form of "gaslighting" that has been proven incredibly effective.
You cannot believe a single statement that comes from the fully Communist "country of China". Not one word.

There IS a much more serious and manufactured economic collapse on the horizon.
Because the public allowed the government to take these levels of Authoritarian control, we have allowed those in power to re-structure our economy for a few more years with the wealthiest benefiting greatly and the common citizen losing. These bailouts do not go to the U.S. The Federal Reserve is neither a Federal institution nor is it bart of a National Reserve. The currency/assets go to those in control and will ensure decades of debt from this small event. Even more so as we continue to allow this to happen. There will be thousands of small businesses that will never recover. They've been told they can take out a loan from the government and not make a payment for 2 Whole Months! They will buckle. The giant corporations will grow and benefit from this. Many will lose their homes and livelihoods. We are already entering a period of depression that is likely to surpass the one of the 30s.

This was no accident
There are many of us in the truth seeking community that have been following this information for years. We have been aware of the agenda unfolding in front of us but not directly on how it would be accomplished. There has been much talk of a large event happening this year or next to cause the economic crash. Many of us, including myself, thought that would wait until the 2nd term of Trump began. This has been coming and there is retrospective evidence showing it. The mayors and governors are either in on the manufactured scheme or are being forced to comply through different means or even the controlled public which are so scared, they are demanding their own loss of liberty in lieu of protection. The high level government, including Trump, Congress, House and Senate, and the openly declared Zionist, Pence are all very much in on this. This event has been wildly successful to those in control by convincing the public to give up their rights.

The virus is (and will now always be) the scapegoat
Through the above described manufactured crisis, the virus will be blamed for the economic crisis that was coming anyway. The virus will be the reason for new laws and rules. The virus (or ones like it - Covid 20 anyone?) will be the reason more government shutdowns occur. The virus will take the blame for all the unemployment, homelessness and suicides that take place in the years to come. Stories will be written, including ones in scholastic textbooks blaming the virus for everything.
And no one will question it.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: glend

How many cases does South Carolina have?I

You can look it up.

Oh look SC has 184 people hospitalzed.

I'm betting they are not all in one hospital either.

So not surprising no one is seeing this there.

I'm in a bigger city near Norfolk VA and there are no lines here yet but my city has less than 20 cases so I wouldn't expect to see lines.

I feel for the deniers because the next few weeks are going to be very hard on folks.

how many ICU beds your city have? That is where the worst of this is at. They are not full yet but will be. Then they get to choose who lives and dies. Only 36% left in south florida and the numbers keep setting new highs each day. By the time this is over there won't be one person who thinks this isn't real. I'm sure the plague started out this way as well.



The worst are the people who got the normal flu and are going around saying they had the virus.

a reply to: Isurrender73

Yes the 12 million heal care professionals are all lying and are paid shills
ffs use your brain!

originally posted by: ziplock9000
a reply to: Isurrender73

Yes the 12 million heal care professionals are all lying and are paid shills
ffs use your brain!

Do you have signed affidavits from all 12 million?

Did you watch the video. The EMT guy said he only knew of 3 people brought into the hospital with Coronavirus.

There are some in health care that are questioning the narrative.

Thank you for adding such valuable content.