Corona Virus Updates

a reply to: ShortBus

Ah, NKC, and they haven't said anything yet. Kiddo just got home a bit ago.

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Can you imagine if those who have died, got up and began eating people??

The Walking dead begins in China.

Last time I researched ‘The Walking Dead’ was a Hollywood movie and franchise.....?

No need for sensationalism, that’s what the media are for.

MR

originally posted by: WeAllWait
a reply to: burdman30ott6


I know what the numbers are I’ve been helping provide them VIGOROUSLY might I add, over the last week.


I’m telling you this thing is not going to be the next plague, I have invested more time into the research findings and history of this situation then you have, of that I am certain.

I will continue to provide what I can from an analytical standpoint.

Your posts in this thread

You have one post in this thread which had number of cases and deaths listed and just entered the discussion yesterday ... if that's your definition of "vigorously" and "over the last week," then I have significant doubts about the judgement behind you attempting to soften the potential impacts of this virus right out of the gate.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

If China has shut down their social media sites to avoid bad news getting out, then you won't see the good news either in all likelihood.

a reply to: ketsuko

Fair points, but at this stage in the game I'd say anyone being treated is a guinea pig.

The population of Wuhan is holed up in their homes...and cannot/will not go to the hospitals.
How can the authorities possibly get an accurate count of those infected or dying?

something that is worrying is that if you take just the Hubei numbers, add together the deaths, critical conditions and serious conditions, you are looking at 25% of those who are infected are CURRENTLY in serious or worse condition.

Now take into consideration that most of the infections have been reported over the past few days, so they could still be at a point before their health deteriorates.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: ketsuko

Fair points, but at this stage in the game I'd say anyone being treated is a guinea pig.

It depends on how the treatment is approached.

It sounds like China really is going for a cure or anti-viral protocol trying things like AIDS and Ebola drugs and other therapies thought to inhibit the virus itself.

Some places may opt for basic supportive care in all but the most severe cases. Supportive care for something like ARDS or viral pneumonia isn't experimental for the most part.

Canada prepares to evacuate its citizens.

a reply to: fatalxception

25% who are known to be infected. How many are infected and not at the hospital?

originally posted by: WeAllWait
Canada prepares to evacuate its citizens.

It's become a globalist virtue signal party at this point. Canadian government... just as stupid and short sighted as their western peers running the US, the UK, France, and all points in between.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I don't have a problem bringing our own out, but they should be somewhere like Alcatraz for quarantine.

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Can you imagine if those who have died, got up and began eating people??

The Walking dead begins in China.

why do you think they're burning the bodies?

Hmmmm... never knew they were...

a reply to: ketsuko

It really violates the intent of a quarantine, whether they are taken to Alcatraz, NYC, or Timbuktu. The entire purpose of a quarantine zone is to prevent anyone from traveling out of the quarantine and potentially spreading whatever pox made the quarantine necessary in the first place. I think Wuhan was good enough for these foreigners to pick up shop and move out of their country of origin to live in or visit when times were good, stick it out when the going gets rough as well.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I guess it depends on why they were there to begin with. For the ones who decided to live there, sure. Leave 'em, but what about those sent there for business, or in service to the country? They went for their jobs, not expecting to get caught up in this, and it's not like anyone likely asked them.

Hits a bit close to home because husband's company has talked about whether or not he might someday be asked to take an overseas job. I don't think China is an option, but there are some sketchy places on that list.

Australian News on China Cremating Bodies

Doubts have been raised about the official death toll, however, with claims Chinese authorities have been cremating bodies in secret.

Chinese-language news outlet Initium interviewed people working at local cremation centres in Wuhan, who said bodies were being sent directly from hospitals without being properly identified and added to the official record.


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Also, one thing that #China is hiding is the number of death caused by the virus. Credible Chinese media outlet @initiumnews interviewed people working at local cremation centers, confirming that many dead bodies were sent directly from the hospitals to the cremation centers...


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... without properly identifying these patients, which means there are patients who died from the virus but not adding to the official record. That shows the current death toll of 133 that we are seeing is way too low.

11:11 AM - Jan 29, 2020 · Taipei City, Taiwan

“So there are reasons to remain sceptical about what China has been sharing with the world because while they have been more transparent about certain things related to the virus, they continue to be sketchy and unreliable in other aspects,” said DW News East Asia correspondent William Yang.

Last week The Guardian reported some Chinese hospitals were not testing patients for the virus, and at least one family was pressured into a cremation.

Two doctors told the family privately the patient had likely contracted coronavirus, but provided no documentation.

It is apparently plausible enough and the source legitimate enough for news outlets in the West to now be reporting it and asking experts about the possibility the report is accurate... (not to mention those experts affirming that it is definitely not outside the realm of plausibility.)

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Just remember, this is how we got the dossier too. One news outlet picked it up and everyone else ran with it assuming it had been verified because of the first source.

Figures got updated

22:24: 1,032 new cases and 37 new deaths in Hubei province, China.

There are currently 7,187 confirmed cases worldwide, including 169 fatalities.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: burdman30ott6

I guess it depends on why they were there to begin with. For the ones who decided to live there, sure. Leave 'em, but what about those sent there for business, or in service to the country? They went for their jobs, not expecting to get caught up in this, and it's not like anyone likely asked them.

Life sucks. In every non-socialist, non fascist nation I'm aware of forced labor is illegal, meaning the employee always has the option of declining travel if they wish. They may need to find a different job, but such is life. If I was told tomorrow that I'd have to leave Alaska to continue my job, they'd see both middle fingers and I'd find a new way to get paper. The issue here is that you're (understandably) raising an emotional plea to violate something that is science based. Sob stories and wrong place, wrong time aren't valid reasons to break a quarantine... being honest here, ONLY the resolution of whatever issue caused the quarantine to begin with is a valid reason to lift that quarantine.

1 new confirmed Japanese case (source)

Tea break over.