Brexit deal done, well agreed in principle

Now it seems it just has to go through the English parliament, will Boris get the numbers?
This is as close as it’s ever been and seems it has come at the death knock



“Fair and balanced for England and the EU”

Interesting to see what breaks, I just can’t see it happening but it will be a win for democracy if England break away from the EU

“A glimpse of Everest” Boris Johnson

I guess I could quote Churchill here, maybe
“This is Not the beginning of the end but the end of the beginning” still a long way to go

Or a second referendum maybe, who knows

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Now it seems it just has to go through the English parliament
This is as close as it’s ever been

“Fair and balanced for England and the EU”
Interesting to see what breaks, I just can’t see it happening but it will be a win for democracy if England break away from the EU

“A glimpse of Everest” Boris Johnson

I understand everybody in the UK government was lining up to hate it, even tho none of them actually know what the agreement is yet.

a reply to: Raggedyman
The task entailed doing two things which everybody said were impossible.
He's now done one of them, so he deserves credit for that much.
And he must have used the "no deal" threat in the way that was advertised- to twist the arms of EU leadership.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Well if they do then Britain has truly become part of the EU, turned into mainland surrender monkeys 🙊

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
I understand everybody in the UK government was lining up to hate it, even tho none of them actually know what the agreement is yet.

That's the American usage of "government", I think. It will be confusing for English members, for whom "the government" means Boris and the Cabinet and the associated lesser ministers.

Labour + DUP will moan and whine an we'll get the No Deal we wanted.

a reply to: Raggedyman

So far I have one major sticking point ...

The UK will need to abide by EU rules and pay into the EU budget, but will lose membership of its institutions.

We will still be a part of the EU but have no say over the direction of travel.

And a slightly minor one.

The UK will have to settle its financial obligations to the EU. There is no precise figure but the biggest part of this "divorce bill" will be the UK contributions to the 2019 and 2020 EU budgets.

The deal seems like a sell out to me so Johnson can meet his October 31st promise.



Parliament has ensured we get a watered down Brexit , No deal is still the only real Brexit.

a reply to: UKWO1Phot

Fingers crossed.

I highly doubt this will pass parliament

a reply to: Raggedyman

It called "compromise", it means that you give in one area and gain in another. Its what won leave in northern ireland. If the UK followed the American model Johnson would send out a million tweets declaring that he was going to nuke France and Germany, somebody would show him where they were on a map,can't he'd immediately declare that it was all a liberal conspiracy.

This deal is the basis for leaving, it's not the final status deal.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
I highly doubt this will pass parliament

Without DUP he needs all the MPs he kicked out plus 20 + Labour MPs.

Boris Johnson hails great new Brexit deal that will see UK ‘stay in the EU’

a reply to: Raggedyman

I don't think Ireland nor the DUP agree.

And he was told that before he tabled the thing.

Scotland does not agree.

Just another chocolate Brexit teapot nonsensical plan that will never get through parliament.

Which is exactly Boris Nonsense's plan really.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Raggedyman

I don't think Ireland nor the DUP agree.

Scotland does not agree.

Just another chocolate Brexit teapot nonsensical plan that will never get through parliament.

Which is exactly Boris Nonsense's plan really.

So I am guessing you want to stay in the EU?

There really is no answer, the EU needs the Pound Stirling to survive, Britain can’t afford to stay can they?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Raggedyman

It called "compromise", it means that you give in one area and gain in another. Its what won leave in northern ireland. If the UK followed the American model Johnson would send out a million tweets declaring that he was going to nuke France and Germany, somebody would show him where they were on a map,can't he'd immediately declare that it was all a liberal conspiracy.

This deal is the basis for leaving, it's not the final status deal.

If UK followed the American model you would fight to throw off the oppressor. butt your england so you all will take it up the butt and settle for what your keepers dole out to you.

a reply to: Raggedyman

What i don't want is continued austerity and a recession.

And the continuation of our NHS might be nice.

Never wanted Brexit Raggedyman, nobody in there right mind up here does.

Britain can afford to do exactly what the bankers tell them, no different anywhere else on the globe.

a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

Yes, or rather no, we won't be doing that.

We don't want your system of government any more than you want our notion what constitutes such.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

Yes, or rather no, we won't be doing that.

We don't want your system of government any more than you want our notion what constitutes such.

You wont be going into the streets like HK seven million people a million in the street and you all cant get a thousand protestors in the streets you all are pathetic compared to HK.

a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

Mate if i end up Mobbing and Rioting it would be at the Jewelers.

What's pathetic is you imagine you can address our particular dilemma with your own shortsighted idea of what constitutes freedom and the democratic process.

Thousand and thousand protestors on our streets most of the time your POTUS decides to visit.

What does that tell you other than we don't want the supposed freedom nor democracy America is shoveling and are perfectly happy with our own flawed variety of such.