Brexit deal done, well agreed in principle

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Protectionist policies are rarely good for any economy.

The US economy disagrees with this and has done so with cold, hard numbers and stats. Protectionism works. Global trade in the 21st Century is that simple... distance from trading partners isn't much of a mitigating factor since the advent of jet cargo hubs and the internet of things.

The US economy benefits massively from international trade, not sure where you get idea that US is argument for protectionism?

What do you think the tariffs we've been using to negotiate better deals are?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Protectionist policies are rarely good for any economy.

The US economy disagrees with this and has done so with cold, hard numbers and stats. Protectionism works. Global trade in the 21st Century is that simple... distance from trading partners isn't much of a mitigating factor since the advent of jet cargo hubs and the internet of things.

The US economy benefits massively from international trade, not sure where you get idea that US is argument for protectionism?

What do you think the tariffs we've been using to negotiate better deals are?

If the aim is less protectionism then it's not really an argument in favour of protectionism.

a reply to: Raggedyman

originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Raggedyman

It called "compromise", it means that you give in one area and gain in another. Its what won leave in northern ireland. If the UK followed the American model Johnson would send out a million tweets declaring that he was going to nuke France and Germany, somebody would show him where they were on a map,can't he'd immediately declare that it was all a liberal conspiracy.

This deal is the basis for leaving, it's not the final status deal.

If UK followed the American model you would fight to throw off the oppressor. butt your england so you all will take it up the butt and settle for what your keepers dole out to you.

Just as you do my friend, just as we ALL do.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Hurting the American people as much as China.

As to the Turkish Steel tariffs.

I really don't see those achieving much other than losing the hearts and minds of the Kurdish people.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Hurting the American people as much as China.

Don't believe the hype, Americans aren't hurting over those tariffs... we're thriving and seeing new manufacturing opening domestically.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - "A whopping 74% increase in tariffs since last year added $6 billion in extra costs for U.S. consumers and businesses."

It depends on who you ask i imagine.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Thanks for the info!



good luck with that

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: burdman30ott6

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - "A whopping 74% increase in tariffs since last year added $6 billion in extra costs for U.S. consumers and businesses."

It depends on who you ask i imagine.

That was from a group funded by the US retail industry (which is very much a global-centric entity). American manufacturers tell a much different story.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: burdman30ott6

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - "A whopping 74% increase in tariffs since last year added $6 billion in extra costs for U.S. consumers and businesses."

It depends on who you ask i imagine.

That was from a group funded by the US retail industry (which is very much a global-centric entity). American manufacturers tell a much different story.

Unsurprisingly companies will often be happy with measure that makes other companies less competitive.

Doesn't make it good for the economy or consumers.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Raggedyman

Yeah but
Something has to happen, some time

I remember many years ago when the few Pohms I know were celebrating when the vote came in to leave
Happy days, happy days, way back when.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Still the U.S consumers and businesses that are footing the bill aka the little guy.

a reply to: Raggedyman

The weans will be celebrating it being Halloween and all.

Whats the bet Boris still does not take his mask off?

Oh aye and the Tory scum, they will be celebrating, the rest of us not so much.

a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

You wont be going into the streets like HK seven million people a million in the street and you all cant get a thousand protestors in the streets you all are pathetic compared to HK.

Never seen Americans protesting much about the myriad of injustices that riddle your society, despite your hallowed Constitution and sacrosanct Second Amendment.

People in glass houses and all that.......

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

You wont be going into the streets like HK seven million people a million in the street and you all cant get a thousand protestors in the streets you all are pathetic compared to HK.

Never seen Americans protesting much about the myriad of injustices that riddle your society, despite your hallowed Constitution and sacrosanct Second Amendment.

People in glass houses and all that.......

Oh, there will be demonstrators in the streets tomorrow in London before the crucial vote in parliament. Thousands of them.

But you know what? They will all be (mostly young) people wanting a second referendum because they cannot tolerate being on the wrong side of a democratic vote taken three years ago. They cannot tolerate being in the minority because their hive mentality and their brainwashed sense of moral superiority makes them need to feel that THEY should be the majority and should impose their minority viewpoint on the stupid majority who voted to leave the EU. Some of our children have become intolerant, postmodern fascists. Yet they pose as champions of freedom and equality. As long as it's THEIR definition of freedom and THEIR sense of freedom. No tolerance or respect for anyone who disagrees with them.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I strongly suspect that Boris is playing a very clever political game, he knows this won't pass and then he will be forced to request an extension however he can then really push for a general election and tell the electorate that he had a deal all sorted and "they" the opposition blocked it because they want to block Brexit and it sets up the "parliament Vs the people" general election. His controlling the political optics masterfully, now I might like Boris but I gotta give him and his advisors credit because they are playing a genius political game right now and totally out classing the opposition.

It's not clever, he's already gone for the broke ahead of any parliamentary vote ahead of the game on news interviews...that doesn't cut the mustard.
Thing is, Boris has a habit of admitting to be dishonest...at the wrong times....a veritable silly billy, something even his sister would say to you, never mind his brother whowas a politician who resigned over Boris's stance on BREXIT.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

What do you think the tariffs we've been using to negotiate better deals are?

They are called tariffs funnily enough, and they are rubbish...a couple of keywords in there BTW if you even cared to explore.

a reply to: Raggedyman

They voted to delay approval of a Brexit deal.

Who would have thought?



Hurry up and pick your ditch Boris, as you can see there is a queue forming to burry you in it. x

Just want to correct a lot of lies on this thread by the usual suspects.
Multiple claims that the deal means we stay in the EU and pay into their budget.
This is for the transition period only. We have always understood there would be a transition period.
Traitorous media, MPs and citizens are proagating lies in a continued effort to weaken support for leaving so that we end up remaining.

Not to say that this deal is perfect. No deal has always been the best option for the UK. It's the route to the most prosperity.

K

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Raggedyman

They voted to delay approval of a Brexit deal.

Who would have thought?

Hurry up and pick your ditch Boris, as you can see there is a queue forming to burry you in it. x

All you ever do is sneer at Boris.
At least he is trying to deliver on his party's manifesto promise to honour the leave vote.
Do you actually have any solution to this awful situation?
Other than your sneering anti tory crap?
You and your ilk are the 1st to go all faux outrage about boris yet you happily want him dead in a ditch.
Disgusting double standards you have there.