Deadly FIre Exposes Wealthy Mans secret underground tunnels in Washington D.C.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Whatthedoctorordered
yeah seems really odd especially how the guy did it.

But really what does it prove? Its not illegal to make tunnels I dont think? I could be wrong, as long as it was on his property.

For all we know he could have been a crazy prepper making tunnels towards a future bunker.



Odd story nonetheless

There is a prosecutor on the case so there appears to be some legal issues

Well, there's wreckless endangerment on account of the guy he hired to dig the tunnels died when one of the tunnels caught on fire.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: MerkabaTribeEntity

originally posted by: BigDave-AR
Okay now that is an interesting story that’s a lot of effort to maintain security excessively so in my eyes....

If I had the land and resources to build my family a secure, well stocked bunker for the event of a SHTF situation, I'd maintain secrecy too.

When you have shelter, food and water, fuel, energy and medical supplies, and others have none, keeping heads down and lips sealed would be a smart move.

It is always good to have a plan.

I have a place near area 2 and maps of abandoned roads and railroad tracks from the 60’s to reach it. I have friends that have the same maps and we have way points all across North America. So if something was to happen we have options and plans in place.

For sure, that does sound like a plan! I'm kind of 'trapped' on a small island here, and even though I'm surrounded by German bunkers and other types of concrete-reinforced constructions, they're mostly not an option for most people in a SHTF situation.

While a many are in great shape through restoration and maintenance, most are either privately owned/on private property, sealed up, or just plain dilapidated to the point of being almost useless.

Every now and then one will come up for sale, or someone will discover a 'new' one, but it's rare.

...doing what he did is cause for concern.

Fair comment, it does seem like an odd place to sit out nuclear war, give me the sticks over suburbia any day. I wonder if he did, in fact, have other plans.

a reply to: Skyfloating

from your source

A MILLIONAIRE in the US has been charged over the bizarre death of a builder hired to build a secret nuclear bunker under his home. Daniel Beckwitt, a 27-year-old stock trader

Beckwitt, believed to be worth at least $3.7million

A 27 year old trader worth $3.7 million hardly puts him in the league of "elite".

Given theextreme secrecy, I don't believe the story about a Nuclear Bunker. A bunker is for protection. Tunnels are for transportation.

So in the event of a Nuke you would share the fact that you had a bunker; LOL
200 ft of tunnels would hardly get past the properties boundaries.

"immense piles of garbage and discarded items strewn throughout the entire home"and "narrow maze-like pathways"

as he feared a nuclear attack from North Korea

If he feared a North Korean attack that would explain the rubbish piling up - why would you clean when its game over?

www.zillow.com...

The median price of homes currently listed in Bethesda is $1,249,500 while the median price of homes that sold is $869,800.

So if houses are worth around 900,000 doesn't leave much net worth for the trader, hardly up there with the elite.

But I know how you will react to my questioning of your conflating and looseness with facts.

originally posted by: MerkabaTribeEntity

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: MerkabaTribeEntity

originally posted by: BigDave-AR
Okay now that is an interesting story that’s a lot of effort to maintain security excessively so in my eyes....

If I had the land and resources to build my family a secure, well stocked bunker for the event of a SHTF situation, I'd maintain secrecy too.

When you have shelter, food and water, fuel, energy and medical supplies, and others have none, keeping heads down and lips sealed would be a smart move.

It is always good to have a plan.

I have a place near area 2 and maps of abandoned roads and railroad tracks from the 60’s to reach it. I have friends that have the same maps and we have way points all across North America. So if something was to happen we have options and plans in place.

For sure, that does sound like a plan! I'm kind of 'trapped' on a small island here, and even though I'm surrounded by German bunkers and other types of concrete-reinforced constructions, they're mostly not an option for most people in a SHTF situation.

While a many are in great shape through restoration and maintenance, most are either privately owned/on private property, sealed up, or just plain dilapidated to the point of being almost useless.

Every now and then one will come up for sale, or someone will discover a 'new' one, but it's rare.

...doing what he did is cause for concern.

Fair comment, it does seem like an odd place to sit out nuclear war, give me the sticks over suburbia any day. I wonder if he did, in fact, have other plans.

OHH that does not seem like a good place for a bug out. Sorry mate.

a reply to: Skyfloating

Given the extreme secrecy, I don't believe the story about a Nuclear Bunker. A bunker is for protection. Tunnels are for transportation.

True. Tunnels can be used as a means of transporting yourself to a bunker.

originally posted by: Whatthedoctorordered
yeah seems really odd especially how the guy did it.

But really what does it prove? Its not illegal to make tunnels I dont think? I could be wrong, as long as it was on his property.

For all we know he could have been a crazy prepper making tunnels towards a future bunker.



Odd story nonetheless

Exactly...the guy was bat***t crazy and a hoarder. He dug some tunnels, or had them dug, probably because he was paranoid about something. He wasn't an "elite" and he certainly wasn't connected to power brokers in the DC area.

There's tons of crazy wealthy people in the DC suburbs...I live and work here and see them almost daily.

a reply to: Skyfloating

Agreed...it is possible that the worker was helping in some way for a much greater plan. Both may have some connections to terrorists...how the hell did they get all the bebris out. I'm thinking this was way more than a two person operation.

Would love to see a map of the location and who's house or building it was pointing to.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Skyfloating

Here's the thing.

If you are comparing this fellows two man construction project, rigged with an utterly improper lighting and power system, largely hand hewn from the ground, without any apparent safety mechanisms in place to keep people within alive in the event of an emergency, to what people have suggested exists, like miles long tunnels, cut by massive machines, complete with transit systems, underground generators, solar chimneys, and hydroponics for food stock growth, owned by the worlds wealthy...

Its like comparing Mad Max's car, to an F1 racer. They are not the same object.

You leave the “road warrior” out of this or so help me god I will send random finger paintings of birds to your residence for the rest of my life.

Don’t test me bro

Well you win the interwebs for the morning nearly evacuated my tea on to my monitor, well done sir, well done.

originally posted by: MerkabaTribeEntity

originally posted by: BigDave-AR
Okay now that is an interesting story that’s a lot of effort to maintain security excessively so in my eyes....

If I had the land and resources to build my family a secure, well stocked bunker for the event of a SHTF situation, I'd maintain secrecy too.

When you have shelter, food and water, fuel, energy and medical supplies, and others have none, keeping heads down and lips sealed would be a smart move.

Yeah but to the that extent? Spoofing the location data is a little much for your average well adjusted human if you ask me.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Some legal issues ? Ya think ? A person died from the fire caused by extreme negligence. This incident is not a way to prove the elite have secret tunnels. This was some nut with money intent on hiding from the world and whatever doom porn he subscribed to.

At least he will have some tunnel digging experience when he starts his prison sentence, maybe it will help him to escape.

He not only has legal issues, it seems he has some mental issues to deal with as well. I can't think of a worst place to attempt to dig secret tunnels at than DC. I doubt that anyone would have survived a nuclear strike in those tunnels.

Yes, rule number one about building secret bunkers is you don't talk about secret bunkers 😊

It seems like a decent enough project, and his motivation is irrelevant since he has every right to construct underground fortifications in secret. Problem here is this guy didn't use his seemingly excessive money to properly secure the site and protect his workers/occupants

The Media should be focusing on the actual allegations of criminal activity here, not trying to pseudo-criminalize secrecy...because secrecy (especially secrets kept from the government) isn't going away anytime soon. We have a right to privacy and the ability to keep things secret at our sole individual discretion.

Now I realize that burns the rear-ends of some folks here, but you have to accept the fact that government/corporations can't micromanage or examine every aspect of a person's life. But as long as we have private property (or at least property they can't find), strong encryption for communications and anonymous crypto based currencies.... they're just going to have to learn to "take us at our word" just like we have to do with them. If they expect us to be "accountable" then they're going to have to go first....and they have a whole heck of a lot of catching up to do.

a reply to: Skyfloating

Great OP, always interesting to read about things like this

Check your ATS messages by the way Skyfloating, I have done a bit of reading on other tunnels/methods of transportation they use in DC and other places, and you might be interested in it

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
There is a prosecutor on the case so there appears to be some legal issues

The man digging the tunnels died, it's natural that there is a prosecutor on the case.

Worked for a guy once who had a multilevel bomb shelter built into his mansion all underground and just used as a regular part of the house

Im just going to drop this here.

'Pizzagate.'

I used to work electrical construction and I sure heard some tales.

Mainly about wiring up growhouses under the table (Colorado here).

But also, certain Broncos players around the Denver area. A certain Von Miller whom you may have heard of has such an underground bunker. Also, enough backup power generators to fill up two semi truck trailers. If the power went out locally he wanted zero downtime and instant backup power. Also, the entire place is a smart home of the future, like that movie - AI and everything networked controlled by voice, etc.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Here's the thing. Nuclear powered tunnel boring machines have been proven to exist. You can even find pictures with a simple search.

How do you think they built NORAD into a solid granite mountain a few miles from my house? Surely that MFer connects to other installations, some argue under DIA, etc. Because why the hell not?

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight


But I know how you will react to my questioning of your conflating and looseness with facts.

Not really. I agree with your assessment and dont have a stake in this.

I posted the article in the sense of "what if". But maybe its nothing. What made me suspicious though, is the part of town it happened in. That part of town is full of actual Billionaire-level elites.

a reply to: Skyfloating

sometimes there are tunnels under houses from the prohibition era

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
There is a prosecutor on the case so there appears to be some legal issues

The man digging the tunnels died, it's natural that there is a prosecutor on the case.

Yeah no sht. I was being a smart ass. Did you guys even read what i was responding to?