Energy from Space | The Shift Has Begun

a reply to: Groot

LOL, back at ya, just being funny really. I am glad to know that you have great connections but as most nerds at NASA seem so compartmentalized and ...educated, sometimes they can be the least informed.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Of course a stronger field provides more protection than a weaker field but even in 1859 the Earth's field wasn't strong enough to avoid all the effects of the storm and we would be much more vulnerable now because now we have electric grids and depend on electricity.

The thing is, a geomagnetic storm (the thing that causes problems for electric grids) is a disruption of Earth's magnetic field. The arrival of a CME causes the field to wiggle. That wiggle causes induced currents in long conductors. Those low frequency currents (effectively DC) don't get along well with the AC currents which the transformers are dealing with. I wonder if a weakened magnetic field might actually reduce the effect of geomagnetic storms.

It should also be noted that, even though the field has been weakening, it is still pretty healthy in comparison to what it has been for quite a while. Reversal in progress? Maybe. Or not.

a reply to: Phage

The Earths magnetic field has stronger and weaker areas usually based on latitude.
Should be a study somewhere that would correlate for us.

www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk...

a reply to: Cauliflower

Yes. Generally stronger at the poles where the lines of force are more perpendicular to the surface. Just like with a bar magnet.

The VADM charted above is a globally averaged value.

a reply to: Phage

To me it's intuitive that geomagnetic storms would actually be less intense in the presence of a weaker magnetic field.

Less field to interact with would imply less interference.

a reply to: swanne

Indeed.

However charged solar and cosmic particles could more readily penetrate a weakened or disrupted field. While the atmosphere does offer a lot of protection against this, it could result in a greater level of secondary radiation at the surface. Probably not severe, more like the increased cancer risk that airline flight crews experience.

a reply to: Phage

I'd be curious to see if such a weakening of the magnetic field could be correlated to periods of higher mutations and perhaps acceleration of biological divergences in the prehistoric era.

a reply to: swanne

Seems reasonable.

I suppose cave dwellers and deep sea creatures might have lower mutation rates than others. Not such an original idea it turns out.
www.pnas.org...

a reply to: Phage

Hmm, thanks for the paper.

1929... The idea has indeed been around for a while it seems.

While looking for data on current VADM values I came across this recent paper. It's very heavy on math but here's the bottom line (literally). The "event" it's talking about is the decline in strength which has been observed.

Comparable duration of the dipole decay and the ADM SV timescale suggests that this event may be reaching its end soon, and therefore tend to disfavor the hypothesis of an imminent geomagnetic reversal.

www.sciencedirect.com...

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: Phage

I'd be curious to see if such a weakening of the magnetic field could be correlated to periods of higher mutations and perhaps acceleration of biological divergences in the prehistoric era.

I have wondered this also and if there was ever a study about this.

I must go off to search to see if there ever was one.

Thank you for the idea.

a reply to: swanne

I came across this and find it very interesting, to say the least.....

3. Theoretical Possibility and Evidences of Bio-Regulatory Effects of Weak Magnetic Fields Recent genetic studies of different cell lines and primary cells provide convincing evidence of the bio-regulatory capabilities of magnetic and electromagnetic fields. Distinct changes in gene expression have been detected in cells after exposure to either radio-frequency EMF, extremely low frequency (ELF) and static fields [28,29] (Figure 2). Understanding of mechanisms of these genetic effects attracts much scientific interest. Most intriguing are mechanisms of the bioregulatory effects of weak magnetic and electromagnetic fields. The information conveyed by electromagnetic radiation (rather than heat) appears to cause these biological changes [20]. Thus, the most important and certainly the most universal are non-thermal interactions of electromagnetic fields with cellular systems. Experimental and epidemiological data as well as theoretical considerations suggest that predominantly magnetic, not the electric constituent of the EMFs, is mainly responsible for biological effects of the EMFs, by virtue of its greater ability to penetrate biological tissues [30,31]. Besides, in contrast to EMF, magnetic fields are not attenuated by most common materials. Therefore, we will focus on possible mechanisms of non-thermal bioregulatory effects of weak magnetic fields.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Whatever happened to Earth's pole shift and why doesn't anyone ever talk about this?

Earth losing strength in its shield? Bah, not enough evidence...and who are all these "credible" scientists? Have they wrote journals upon journals with conclusive evidence or are they just spewing mumbo jumbo stuff?

I smell doom porn.

a reply to: Groot

Their prediction didn't really seem to pan out. But I guess it depends on what you call an epidemic.

Following the main idea of this review, it is suggested that from 2011 until 2015 solar regulatory influences and concomitant geomagnetic field fluctuations may predispose to genetic and immunological alterations favorable to influenza epidemic spread.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Bad outbreak this year. Maybe it's solar minimums that do it instead. Or not.
upload.wikimedia.org...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Groot

Their prediction didn't really seem to pan out. But I guess it depends on what you call an epidemic.

Following the main idea of this review, it is suggested that from 2011 until 2015 solar regulatory influences and concomitant geomagnetic field fluctuations may predispose to genetic and immunological alterations favorable to influenza epidemic spread.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Bad outbreak this year. Maybe it's solar minimums that do it instead. Or not.
upload.wikimedia.org...

Who knows? Just looking at possibilities. Anything is better then all this political drama.

Why won't Yellowstone blow up already ?

a reply to: Groot

Anything is better then all this political drama.

Indeed.
Much better looking for real data than chasing shadows.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Arbitrageur
I wonder if a weakened magnetic field might actually reduce the effect of geomagnetic storms.

I don't know, it's an interesting question.

It should also be noted that, even though the field has been weakening, it is still pretty healthy in comparison to what it has been for quite a while. Reversal in progress? Maybe. Or not.

On that time scale, Earth's magnetic field appears to be doing the opposite of "disappearing" as Ben Davidson says.

umm

Would this explain the globalist global warming hoax?

a reply to: Arbitrageur

When you call them Chemtrails, yeah, it sounds "crazy" and the average person automatically thinks of contrails.

Just think about that. Think about how well manipulated you are. Whenever you even hear that someone Believes in chemtrails, you have an automated involuntary response. Like Pavlov's dogs, you do as you are trained to do and little else.

You won't even consider what he had to say because of that one thing.

Yeah, chemtrails. When you put it That way, yeah it sure sounds kooky...

But wait a minute. You think its beyond the audacity of our gov to spray things into the atmosphere?
They totally corrupted the sanctity of the human mind with their MK ULTRA experiments, they created and tested a bunch of Atomic freaking Bombs, they gave diseases to a crapton of people just to see what would happen. Then they did the same with '___'.

BUT to think for ONE minute that they would taint our pristine, sacred atmosphere, the Very Air We breathe, no... thats insanity. Or, at the very least

people who say that never come across as intelligent to me. 

If anyone even SUGGESTS the government might tamper with our previous atmosphere, then, well, I'm just gonna put my fingers in my ears and "LA-LA-LA-LA!!!"
That's you. That's what you sound like.

originally posted by: 3n19m470
Whenever you even hear that someone Believes in chemtrails, you have an automated involuntary response. Like Pavlov's dogs, you do as you are trained to do and little else.

You won't even consider what he had to say because of that one thing.

It's not an involuntary response based on "training", it's based on my own research and that of others. It's not the main topic of this thread so this isn't the place to go into details but you can find plenty of chemtrail threads on ATS with lots of claims and lots of claims debunked.

Geoengineering and chemtrails

Chemtrails? Are they for real and what are they for?

If you want to start a thread about what Ben Davidson has to say about chemtrails and if you think it's different than all the other debunked chemtrail claims, feel free to do it and invite me to the thread and I'll take a look, but I suggest that first you read some of the existing threads on the topic, if you haven't already done so.