Energy from Space | The Shift Has Begun

originally posted by: Groot
a reply to: Phage

Well, we could use the current map of declination, but I was wondering if you watched the video , and if you did, what were your thoughts.

maps.ngdc.noaa.gov...

Earth’s Magnetic Flip | Timeline, Severity, Princeton

a reply to: Groot

Sorry. Must have burned out on stupid Nibiru/HAARP/Chemtrail/Moon upsidedown/2012/Giant spaceships near the Sun threads.
Denying ignorance becomes a chore.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Groot

Sorry. Must have burned out on stupid Nibiru/HAARP/Chemtrail/Moon upsidedown/2012/Giant spaceships near the Sun threads.
Denying ignorance becomes a chore.

Sorry also, for you having to deal with that stupid crap. I went to lala land for awhile because of it.

I wouldn't post something if it was not worthy to take a look at.

If I am wrong and the info is wrong, just show me the proof.

No doom porn, just some info to ponder over.

a reply to: Groot

Proof of a negative.

Alrighty. I'll get right on that.
Or not. I'd have to watch the video.

I said that we might be in the early stages of a geomagnetic reversal, didn't I? Isn't that good enough for you?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Groot

Proof of a negative.

Alrighty. I'll get right on that.
Or not. I'd have to watch the video.

I said that we might be in the early stages of a geomagnetic reversal, didn't I? Isn't that good enough for you?

I concede.

originally posted by: Groot
a reply to: SkeptiSchism

I have found that alot of my sources have been shutdown. I know why now.

Things quit updating after 2012 for some reason.

If anyone can find the current location of magnetic north, please share.

Our place is lined up E/ W, so, using the window, I aligned the only compass I have (on my phone). Seems N is 11-15 degrees off to the right. I don't know how much help that is (I live in Greensboro, NC for location purposes).

I wonder... if a bunch of people from around the ATS world did what I did, would a group effort help find N? I did notice that putting the compass in various places inside (it's nasty and wet out) made the thing fluctuate. Putting it on the floor helped; we live in a place with elevated wood floors, so the chances of having rebar muck with the compass is reduced. I compromised with a cheap plastic computer desk and on the floor for my readings.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Groot

The last time the location of the north dip pole was observed was in 2007.
The north geomagnetic pole cannot be observed but it can be calculated.

www.ngdc.noaa.gov...

Is it me, or are the poles going independently of each other? I'd figure if N is going x direction, South would at least be going in a general opposite direction, like a bar magnet. This looks like there's 4 poles, and they're drunk.

I will say that this sort of thing is well above my paygrade. Please put the flames on medium low.

a reply to: Groot



during the lead up to 2012... there was some presentations on the subject(s)= interstellar/heliosphere/Earth magnetosphere...

one glaring omission in the 2018 updated version you introduced us to is the 'Lack of the Photon-Belt' that was approaching our solar system, while we were entering the 'void'. of the Local Cloud we were traveling through


also missing from the 2012 doom-porn was the controversy of the Sun's twisted and contorted magnetic field which shared time/space with the physical Solar Wind... these magnetic bands were supposed to twist & knot so tightly that their 'snapping' was to black out each individual Planet...



these authors and their junkets to alert people are a cottage industry that should provide a lucrative lively-hood for a decade for the team... or until the messages fall on death ears

Would we even know if the poles flipped?

I mean they flip then just take on the characteristics of the reverse and we would not know.

Yep already happened.

a reply to: wylekat

...Is it me, or are the poles going independently of each other? I'd figure if N is going x direction, South would at least be going in a general opposite direction, like a bar magnet. This looks like there's 4 poles, and they're drunk.

look up the South Atlantic Anomaly.... which is a persistent magnetic vortice - between Brazil & Africa - making a 5th magnetic pole


it is projected that the could be as many as 6 north & south poles wandering in an area for a short period...r there could be 3 north poles in one hemisphere and 2 or more south poles in just-say Russia at any one time

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of months/years as the reversal goes on

a reply to: Groot

People here love to crap on Davidson's work. I enjoy it on the other hand. I went to OTF 2017 and 2018 and had a fantastic time. Lots of great people there.

Don't be discouraged by the resident "experts".

While nobody can be 100% sure about any of this, I admire the groups efforts. They have come a long way in making information on these topics available. It's also far more entertaining than the dogmatic responses of those unwilling to offer alternative theories and explanation.

originally posted by: Groot
So are you saying the whole video is false, or just parts of it.

Clarify your statement.

I was pretty clear in my statement and I didn't address the entire video, nor will I make a point-by-point assessment of the entire thing, but I can add some comments.

He talks about these risks of our "sheilds"[sic] "disappearing" and recommends prepping. I think prepping to some reasonable extent is good advice which I do myself to some extent even though the 3 shields he mentions in his video are the furthest thought from my mind in why I prep, it's more for other natural disasters. Having sufficient food and water on hand to survive a temporary collapse of infrastructure just seems prudent, and it's really not that hard to do if you keep it reasonable.

I think a repeat of the "carrington event" or solar storm of 1859 could disable our electric grids for some time and without electricity, electric pumps are not going to operate and some people may not have water available. That could happen regardless of the variation in earth's magnetic field. Of course a stronger field provides more protection than a weaker field but even in 1859 the Earth's field wasn't strong enough to avoid all the effects of the storm and we would be much more vulnerable now because now we have electric grids and depend on electricity.

The local galactic cloud and bubble he mentions does exist, since he says he gets his data from NASA and they talk about it. But telling people to prep for the "disappearance" of that seems a bit premature since various sources seem to say that we won't leave it until somewhere between 1000 to 10,000 years, from which I conclude that nobody living now will see us exit. So there may be other reasons to prep, but that's not a very good one.

For the "third shield", the sun's magnetic field, it too varies but his characterization of "disappearing" is inaccurate. It varies, but I don't think scientists expect it to disappear entirely.

So no doubt you can find nuggets of truth where he takes the data he got from NASA and presents that data as he got it, so in those segments you're getting the same data you'd get from NASA. It's what he does with the data he got that may not match up with NASA's assessment. Why anybody thinks this man knows more about how to interpret NASA's data than NASA does escapes me. If you're one of those people who thinks NASA lies about everything I guess that might be a possible motivation to look elsewhere for analysis, but if they really lied about everything, why is he using NASA's data?

So this selective filtering of using some things from NASA (data) but not others (analysis) seems logically inconsistent to me. I'm not saying NASA has all the answers, they certainly don't, but what I am saying is that I have more confidence in NASA's ability to analyze NASA's data, than in Ben Davidson's ability to analyze it.

originally posted by: Bobaganoosh
a reply to: Groot
It's also far more entertaining than the dogmatic responses of those unwilling to offer alternative theories and explanation.

He says he uses data from NASA. If you're saying that NASA is more focused on science and not so much entertainment, while Ben Davidson takes the same data and turns it into something more entertaining, that could well be true. I suppose we have to decide if we want good science or good entertainment.

OP, hope you did not hit "send" on your message to your soon to be NASA family member... if so, just take some of the finer points shared in this thread for a followup email and kind of laugh it off...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Groot

I think we may be in the early stages of a geomagnetic reversal. Or not.

I'm not watching the video but I don't think geomagnetic reversals have anything to do with "energy from space."

Oh now, history and the magnetic pole drift say we are in a shift.

a reply to: Groot

We are in unchartered territory in modern society with the Sun's output diminishing and an increase in cosmic rays,was a fair statement.

The whole magnetic field-gaseous water clouds interaction has changed weather patterns and given us a clue as to the possible affects. They include weather, geological activity increases as some seem to be on the rise the last 10 years or so, and Solar output not being enough to keep us from dipping back into this Ice age.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Groot
So are you saying the whole video is false, or just parts of it.

Clarify your statement.

I was pretty clear in my statement and I didn't address the entire video, nor will I make a point-by-point assessment of the entire thing, but I can add some comments.

He talks about these risks of our "sheilds"[sic] "disappearing" and recommends prepping. I think prepping to some reasonable extent is good advice which I do myself to some extent even though the 3 shields he mentions in his video are the furthest thought from my mind in why I prep, it's more for other natural disasters. Having sufficient food and water on hand to survive a temporary collapse of infrastructure just seems prudent, and it's really not that hard to do if you keep it reasonable.

I think a repeat of the "carrington event" or solar storm of 1859 could disable our electric grids for some time and without electricity, electric pumps are not going to operate and some people may not have water available. That could happen regardless of the variation in earth's magnetic field. Of course a stronger field provides more protection than a weaker field but even in 1859 the Earth's field wasn't strong enough to avoid all the effects of the storm and we would be much more vulnerable now because now we have electric grids and depend on electricity.

The local galactic cloud and bubble he mentions does exist, since he says he gets his data from NASA and they talk about it. But telling people to prep for the "disappearance" of that seems a bit premature since various sources seem to say that we won't leave it until somewhere between 1000 to 10,000 years, from which I conclude that nobody living now will see us exit. So there may be other reasons to prep, but that's not a very good one.

For the "third shield", the sun's magnetic field, it too varies but his characterization of "disappearing" is inaccurate. It varies, but I don't think scientists expect it to disappear entirely.

So no doubt you can find nuggets of truth where he takes the data he got from NASA and presents that data as he got it, so in those segments you're getting the same data you'd get from NASA. It's what he does with the data he got that may not match up with NASA's assessment. Why anybody thinks this man knows more about how to interpret NASA's data than NASA does escapes me. If you're one of those people who thinks NASA lies about everything I guess that might be a possible motivation to look elsewhere for analysis, but if they really lied about everything, why is he using NASA's data?

So this selective filtering of using some things from NASA (data) but not others (analysis) seems logically inconsistent to me. I'm not saying NASA has all the answers, they certainly don't, but what I am saying is that I have more confidence in NASA's ability to analyze NASA's data, than in Ben Davidson's ability to analyze it.

originally posted by: Bobaganoosh
a reply to: Groot
It's also far more entertaining than the dogmatic responses of those unwilling to offer alternative theories and explanation.

He says he uses data from NASA. If you're saying that NASA is more focused on science and not so much entertainment, while Ben Davidson takes the same data and turns it into something more entertaining, that could well be true. I suppose we have to decide if we want good science or good entertainment.

I do take this whole video with a grain of salt. Towards the end of it when he was discussing prepping , I started to lose faith.

Over all, not paying much attention to the messenger, just focusing on the data .

I don't like the sensationalism, just the facts, and to me, the facts are something to take a close look at.

originally posted by: Justoneman
a reply to: Groot

We are in unchartered territory in modern society with the Sun's output diminishing and an increase in cosmic rays,was a fair statement.

The whole magnetic field-gaseous water clouds interaction has changed weather patterns and given us a clue as to the possible affects. They include weather, geological activity increases as some seem to be on the rise the last 10 years or so, and Solar output not being enough to keep us from dipping back into this Ice age.

I think we have been living in a comfort zone, so to speak, for a few thousand years, and we are getting ready to get spanked and our toys, ie.. cars and electronics, are going to be disabled and taken away.

originally posted by: antar
OP, hope you did not hit "send" on your message to your soon to be NASA family member... if so, just take some of the finer points shared in this thread for a followup email and kind of laugh it off...

I have, and will probably be the crazy brother- law with black suv's showing up to take me to the " farm"

LOL !

originally posted by: Justoneman
a reply to: Groot

We are in unchartered territory in modern society with the Sun's output diminishing and an increase in cosmic rays,was a fair statement.

The whole magnetic field-gaseous water clouds interaction has changed weather patterns and given us a clue as to the possible affects. They include weather, geological activity increases as some seem to be on the rise the last 10 years or so, and Solar output not being enough to keep us from dipping back into this Ice age.

But man has caused all this global warming ! "heavy sarcasm inserted in that statement "

I have a good 20 to 30 years to see what really happens, unless I get hit by a bus.