What do we think of this "Thracian Pyramid?"

Apologies, but I have trouble posting pictures, so I will just post the link.

archaeologyinbulgaria.com... a/

This looks like a natural formation to me with some carving at the base, but I am a bit confused, because this website posts a lot of good material which is easily verifiable elsewhere. I know that there is a lot of Archaeology--good and bad--going on in Bulgaria for nationalistic reasons, so this may be a complete crank. Anyone have any info or opinions?

Those are some really big rocks they moved around to make that place.

a reply to: cachibatches

They were treating stone and granite as if just molding it. These images of carved-in vessels in the mountain rock are really amazing. Like are also those amazing sharp angle cuts for removing large blocks for the bedrock.

But to me all these give an impression of something way older than just bronze age. These sites are prior to anything in this region.

Really nice find!

Probably due in part to nature and some added to the natural shapes. Nice find hope the research continues beyond as you point out in Nationalistic ties. Thracians were not just limited to Bulgaria so nice find overall.

a reply to: cachibatches

It doesn't look like a pyramid to me. The images don't appear to show definitively man-made blocks either. The 'team of historians' might have been premature and haven't found anything to remark on since 2015.

Here's a video showing the imagery from 2015:



Here's one showing Thracian tombs and artefacts. The difference we see straight away is these look clearly man-made and cultural too. The shapeless Rorschach blot of the 'pyramid' takes some squinting and effort to make it more like a pyramid than natural stone formation.

a reply to: cachibatches

It's just rocks

Definitely some of these stones have been cut out of the rock by humans. What amazes me is the amount of weathering on the rocks, a geologist should give an estimate on the age - I'm guessing its hundreds of thousands of years to wheater rock like that and not thousands of years. These kinds of finds is the smoking gun that points to the (fact) that humanity has been advanced enough to cut rock like this for much longer than conventional archeology claims.

-MM

a reply to: cachibatches

While I wouldn't say it's a pyramid, humans definitely shaped it into something , this can be seen in places like Petra at a much later date and Axum even later, matter of fact this kinda remind me of 11th/ 12th dyn Egyptian rock cut temples coming from the Wakha family, not saying there is any connection here, although there had been unsubstantiated boast of later Egyptians to Herodotus that 12th dyn Egyptians made conquest in that general area about the same time..grain of salt pls.

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From the front elevation, it looks like a natural formation, however, from the side...three-quarter view...the rocks look placed. Such a pity the pics are screen grabs of poor quality. I did a search but could not find any others.

Agreed, natural rock formation that was partially embellished by human hands at some point. But mostly a natural rock formation.

a reply to: cachibatches

i would love to be able to travel around the world and check out some ancient sites. maybe someday i will be able to afford to visit some.

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: cachibatches

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... those are tombs, not temples.

a reply to: cachibatches

Limestone outcrop. Natural formation. I think the cavelet may be too new to even be an ancient rock shelter (a "cave" where "cave people" lived.)

a reply to: Byrd

I should have been more clear, these rock cut tombs set the stage for later rock cut temples or dwellings of Hatshepsut and that of Ramses.

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: Byrd

I should have been more clear, these rock cut tombs set the stage for later rock cut temples or dwellings of Hatshepsut and that of Ramses.

BTW, I like your new artifact-avatar. I recognize it as African but can't peg the culture or time period.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: Byrd

I should have been more clear, these rock cut tombs set the stage for later rock cut temples or dwellings of Hatshepsut and that of Ramses.

BTW, I like your new artifact-avatar. I recognize it as African but can't peg the culture or time period.

Egyptian probably N.K or later, different in style than the Old K or earlier.

Here's a video showing the imagery from 2015:

Here's one showing Thracian tombs and artefacts. The difference we see straight away is these look clearly man-made and cultural too. The shapeless Rorschach blot of the 'pyramid' takes some squinting and effort to make it more like a pyramid than natural stone formation.

Some of the art work in these tombs give away time frame and influence not to mention stone work, archways, bench ect. All sorts of shared iconography Etruscan, Early Greek, shades of Minoan right up to Roman invasion period and the diaspora of the Thracians........A good many years to cover and still said to be thousands of these tombs of different sizes yet to be unearthed.