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when their intention was to surveille Trump
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
when their intention was to surveille Trump
You speak of intentions like they are proven, when its really just your partisan biases speaking.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
He did not lie about it, he just got the term "wiretapping" wrong, but we all know what he meant.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
when their intention was to surveille Trump
You speak of intentions like they are proven, when its really just your partisan biases speaking.
That's not me and my bias, that's what the BBC reported. Back in January people loved it. Now that they realize how big a problem it is .. it suddenly never happened.
How are you putting the MANY MANY reports by MANY MANY outlets saying this was all about getting to Trump on me?
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan
This isn't new. It was reported on extensively at the beginning of the month, and while I can't seem to find any articles about it now, it was also mentioned back in January when it happened. It isn't illegal and you haven't found any new smoking gun against Obama.
This article is dated March 1st. Notice that the investigation hasn't changed focus since then?
ETA: It's amazing how you guys take flimsy evidence like some lady giving an interview on MSNBC as confirmed evidence of Obama wrongdoing, but bend over backwards to dismiss ALL of Trump's inconsistencies.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I think you are confused as to what I've been saying. Let's make it clear without your twisting of my words:
-Trump's claim was a lie and didn't happen
-Trump moved the goal posts back to include surveillance in general (which makes it legal, btw)
-You posted articles to already known information and the opinion of some lawyer unrelated to the case as confirmation bias to an opinion reached by right wing media (but not reflected by anyone doing the investigation)
-I refuted your opinion because it doesn't align with the direction the investigation is going.
-You continue to sing that opinion despite this and now are trying to suggest I'm a hypocrite or moved the goal posts on you.
-Keep in mind that Obama and Co. aren't under investigation and ALL people who matter on the subject, Republican and Democrat alike, have exonerated Obama publicly and on the record.
So you can keep telling me I'm wrong and that Obama is guilty, but that is only true in your head. And I guess right wing media, but we all know the media isn't to be trusted. Right?
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
He did not lie about it, he just got the term "wiretapping" wrong, but we all know what he meant. Doesn't matter how they "tapped" him, wires or wireless, it is still the point that he was under surveillance.
BULL#! That is just Trump moving the goal posts back after he got caught in an easily provable lie. His tweets very clearly describe wiretapping, how it works, and eludes to the wiretap being illegal on the likes of Watergate.
If I say I got into a car accident today, but the other vehicle was actually a truck, was I still involved in a car accident, or am I lying because I should have said truck accident?
Who cares? Trump's tweet was clear on the manner. Thinking otherwise is just silly.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Perfectenemy
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan
This isn't new. It was reported on extensively at the beginning of the month, and while I can't seem to find any articles about it now, it was also mentioned back in January when it happened. It isn't illegal and you haven't found any new smoking gun against Obama.
This article is dated March 1st. Notice that the investigation hasn't changed focus since then?
ETA: It's amazing how you guys take flimsy evidence like some lady giving an interview on MSNBC as confirmed evidence of Obama wrongdoing, but bend over backwards to dismiss ALL of Trump's inconsistencies.
Unmasking american citizens is illegal.
No it isn't. There are something like 20 people within the government who have the authority to unmask. You may want to brush up on the facts of the case if you believe this to be true.