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originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
'Hell' is a state of mind where one has separated themselves from the knowledge of God, it is not a place where people are sent to suffer.
Sheol means 'asked for', we as a society are always asking for more, we are consumers who consume anything and everything we can get our hands on. Our current consumerist society is Sheol where people are always asking for more because of the void they feel inside themselves.
Material wealth is the veil that has been pulled over everyone's eyes, our materialistic society teaches that true value lies outside in material things when in realty real wealth comes from within ourselves.
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
I have spent the last two years digging into my KJV to see if the Hell theory holds up or not.
originally posted by: Lazarus Short
a reply to: Rex282
Thank you Rex, that may just be the best post of the thread!
Good job Laz.You have laid out the foundation of the evidence that testifies.However the dilemma of proving there is no eternal punishment of Hell from the scriptures is those that want to believe it will still infer it is in the scriptures yet Yahoshua clearly stated:
“You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about me. Yet you will not come to me, that you may have life”.
15. The idea of damnation of people to Hell is at least absurd, and possibly blasphemous. See Genesis 1:26-27, 2:7,3:19, Ecclesiastes 12:7.
24. When we dig out mistranslations and peel away misinterpretations, we find that Hell is a 404. With Hell so deconstructed, the Bible and God are both silent on Hell. See Numbers 23:19, John 14:2.
Luke 6:31
Do to others as you would have them do to you.
Luke 6:37
37 ‘Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned.
Matthew 7:2
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Originally posted by khnum
Having seen a black silhouetted angel with sword and shield about 20ft in the air above me Id say hell probably actually does exist.
Originally posted by khnum
As the Buddha suggests 'to exist is to suffer',your already on a hell staffed and managed by what you would expect to find in a hell,its a moot point I am more interested in liberation this lifetime as for any afterlife we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
Originally posted by khnum
Having seen a black silhouetted angel with sword and shield about 20ft in the air above me Id say hell probably actually does exist.
Originally posted by khnum
The world is more than a two choice option and there is more than just the Christian reality,or Muslim,or Jewish or whatver the trick is discriminating between that which has been set up by archons and that that hasnt.